Guardian Vs. CSM

The Guardian gets stupid (as always) while CSM actually tries to make a comeback.

Scorching heat, high winds and bone-dry conditions are fueling catastrophic wildfires in the US west that offer a preview of the kind of disasters that human-caused climate change could bring, a trio of scientists said on Thursday.

“What we’re seeing is a window into what global warming really looks like,” said Princeton University’s Michael Oppenheimer, a lead author for the UN’s climate science panel. “It looks like heat, it looks like fires, it looks like this kind of environmental disaster … This provides vivid images of what we can expect to see more of in the future.”

In Colorado, wildfires that have raged for weeks have killed four people, displaced thousands and destroyed hundreds of homes. Because winter snowpack was lighter than usual and melted sooner, fire season started earlier in the US west, with wildfires out of control in Colorado, Montana and Utah.

The high temperatures that are helping drive these fires are consistent with projections by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which said this kind of extreme heat, with little cooling overnight, is one kind of damaging impact of global warming.

US wildfires are what global warming really looks like, scientists warn | Environment | guardian.co.uk

Complete BS – from propagandists. The 1871 Michigan/Wisconsin/Chicago fires which killed thousands of people and burned millions of acres were catastrophic. The 1910 fires which burned millions of acres were catastrophic. The 2012 fire season is below normal so far, with acreage much smaller than many previous years.

Amazingly, CSM actually has an intelligent story.

“You can’t say it’s climate change just because it’s an extreme condition,” said Colorado state climatologist Nolan Doesken. So far, Doesken told LiveScience, the spring of 2012 looks much like the spring of 1910, when warm temperatures hit early. That year, he said, was a bad one for fires.

This year has been extreme in terms of heat and dryness, he said, as was 2002 (a record-breaking year for fires in Colorado). So far, 2012′s weather looks very similar to the weather of 1910. That year, spring was warm and dry, which fed into a hellish fire season. Among the blazes was the Great Fire of 1910, also known as “the Big Burn,” which destroyed 3 million acres of forest in Washington, Idaho and Montana.

Are Colorado’s wildfires caused by global warming? – CSMonitor.com

Who gave the go ahead to people like Hansen, Oppenheimer, Mann, etc. to lie about climate?

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11 Responses to Guardian Vs. CSM

  1. John B., M.D. says:

    Off topic, but:

    Record cold and above avg rain in Sweden, caused by, guess what, global warming: http://www.thelocal.se/41662/20120627/

    “Sweden’s climate has become both warmer and rainier because of global warming, and rainfall and storms have increased in recent years, he said.
    On June 2, Stockholm registered its coldest June day in 84 years, with the mercury rising to a maximum of six degrees Celsius (43 Fahrenheit).”

    • Eric Simpson says:

      Massive number of record lows – In Summer
      While the mainstream media screamed about the number of record highs during the last week, they somehow forgot to mention the massive number of records lows. Here’s a (long) list of record lows in the United States on just one DAY – 27 Jun 2012 (see link):

      http://iceagenow.info/2012/06/massive-number-record-lows-summer/

      • leftinbrooklyn says:

        Come on, Eric, get with the program…you’re forgetting the new Physics….warm causes cold now, remember? Repeat after me: ‘Warm causes cold’….’Warm causes cold’….’Warm causes cold’….’Warm causes cold’….’Warm causes cold’….

    • Lance says:

      Ya, I heard some place in Florida had a record low yesterday ? Orlando?

  2. Brian says:

    The news here is also saying that it’s the worst fire in Col history.

  3. Andy DC says:

    There is probably 100 times the amount of uspscale property in that area than 100 years ago, so it’s easy to see why fire related property damage has increased.

    Another very severe fire was the Hinckley Fire of 1894 that killed 418. I believe that was in Ohio.

  4. Wyoming is talking about how bad the fire season is. Yet, in 1988 Yellowstone burned till snow, 1991, 1996, and 2001 thousands of acres burned in central Wyoming (I have pictures of this) and in 2006, Casper Mountain burned for a week. So far, some of the fires are growing quite large, but the weather this year is very similar to 2001, so one would expect large fires. No rain and 90 degree temperatures do that–and have done that over and over and over. Nothing new here.

  5. Bloke down the pub says:

    Who gave the go ahead to people like Hansen, Oppenheimer, Mann, etc. to lie about climate? It doesn’t need anyone to give them permission, only that decent people stand by and do nothing.

  6. And a society where people just take things on faith and never look beyond. Good people did stand by as schools and the media ran with this. It did not happen overnight. At one time, American schoolchildren could do math and science. Evidence says “not so much anymore”. How does one get people who are worried the government will stop mailing them checks or they won’t have time to update their Facebook page why AGW is not science and how buying a new car to save money on gas costs you more money (unless you needed a car anyway). Any ideas?

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