Hogwash, the Arctic is melting, I saw it in mainstream media reports, so it must be true.
Meanwhile, back to reality. If the current ice level overtakes all the other levels like it did this past winter, all the “gains” from global warming are lost and put further in deficit, thus making an ice-free summer all the much harder to achieve. So if man-caused global warming doesn’t have the horsepower to bring about all that open water that was predicted (modeled / guessed-at / whatever), how can we say it has so much effect over other parts of the climate?
Why is attention focused solely on the arctic ice minimum each year? We know that the minimum is influenced by currents and wind as well as temperature. Other than serving the warmist cabal as a potential scary data point, the minimum extent is certainly not a useful measure of arctic conditions. If one is actually interested in temperature trends, wouldn’t the time-averaged ice extent over the year be a far superior measure? Does anyone know if such an averaged measure is readily available anywhere?
The growth speed after the minimum is even greater than 2007 and 2008 for the same period, which are the highest speeds in the graph. The speed is an indication of the strength of the oscillation, but because it’s growing it could also be an indication of a cooling trend.
the earth’s poles and jetstream have moved,
it stands to reason that the weather will shift too.
if it shifts in the same direction & distance then it can be predicted.
The extremely rapid recovery would appear to validate what we have known all along, that this summer’s min was a fluke, caused by the freak early August blizzard.
@Andy: yes, it points to other causes rather than the temperature for the oscillations. The peak at April this year and the present speed of growth in fact seem to indicate a cooling trend IMO.
Using Catastrophist™ extrapolation, by the end of the month it will be higher for that date than at any time since 2007!
Look at all this young ice ,they will be sending out the greenpeace icebreakers soon to clear it away.
http://www.aari.ru/odata/_d0015.php?lang=1&mod=0&yy=2012
Hogwash, the Arctic is melting, I saw it in mainstream media reports, so it must be true.
Meanwhile, back to reality. If the current ice level overtakes all the other levels like it did this past winter, all the “gains” from global warming are lost and put further in deficit, thus making an ice-free summer all the much harder to achieve. So if man-caused global warming doesn’t have the horsepower to bring about all that open water that was predicted (modeled / guessed-at / whatever), how can we say it has so much effect over other parts of the climate?
Oh, dear, Schneider scary scenario FAIL.
Why is attention focused solely on the arctic ice minimum each year? We know that the minimum is influenced by currents and wind as well as temperature. Other than serving the warmist cabal as a potential scary data point, the minimum extent is certainly not a useful measure of arctic conditions. If one is actually interested in temperature trends, wouldn’t the time-averaged ice extent over the year be a far superior measure? Does anyone know if such an averaged measure is readily available anywhere?
You are right diogenes100, look here for your averages:-
http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/sea-ice-page/
The growth speed after the minimum is even greater than 2007 and 2008 for the same period, which are the highest speeds in the graph. The speed is an indication of the strength of the oscillation, but because it’s growing it could also be an indication of a cooling trend.
the earth’s poles and jetstream have moved,
it stands to reason that the weather will shift too.
if it shifts in the same direction & distance then it can be predicted.
at this rate….what has me worried, is that by next winter (2014), how far will the ice extend? New York? /sarc…
The extremely rapid recovery would appear to validate what we have known all along, that this summer’s min was a fluke, caused by the freak early August blizzard.
@Andy: yes, it points to other causes rather than the temperature for the oscillations. The peak at April this year and the present speed of growth in fact seem to indicate a cooling trend IMO.
Pay no attention to that ice behind the curtain…
Latest! How to make ice? Boil some water
Signed: Respected scientist.
Trofim Lysenko
It’s going up very fast, we should have another above average April next year.