UK Wind Farms Consumed More Energy Than They Generated

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/

h/t to Marc Morano

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21 Responses to UK Wind Farms Consumed More Energy Than They Generated

  1. Dave N says:

    “..in high winds they have to be switched off altogether to prevent damage”.

    That just beats all. Did hurricane Katrina strike Britain, too?

  2. Jimbo says:

    If Britain does not get its energy mix right and put an immediate halt to any more windfarms then I fear the country could face blackouts in the near future. It almost happened last winter with gas supplies being cut for factories. Alas, I fear that only power cuts in winter will awaken people to the travesty of wind farms.
    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/britain-comes-within-hours-of-rationing-gas-supplies-1.996394

    High winds and heavy snow have brought chaos to the north of England, Northern Ireland and Scotland.
    http://www.buenosairesnews.net/story/618504

    France has no such fears as they get over 70% of their electricity from nuclear power.
    http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf40.html

    • Jim says:

      France has been doing it’s bit to keep UK electricity flowing but one only has to wonder what will happen the next time it happens and France may not have the resources to provide via the interconnector.

      The UK is buggered, even the prime minister withheld vital information from the public on the projected cold from the Met Office. Lives could have been saved and the disaster at Heathrow and on the road networks could have been lessened if the relevant authorities had been informed by the Prime Minister about the private forecast.

      Now the BBC has served a Freedom of Information request (FOIA) on UK Government over weather forecast failures secrecy in worst winter for 100 years. http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/32017

      But with Cancun in full swing at the time and Cameron’s father in law having commercial wind turbines on his extensive estate one can easily understand why Cameron and Crazy Huhne kept the forecast to themselves. The super rich political classes always over extend their caring side to the people in public, while pulling the rug from under them in private. Cameron and Huhne should resign, they failed their country intentionally.

  3. Sense Seeker says:

    Rather biased piece – as you might expect of the Daily Mail.

    The fact that wind turbines contribute only 1.6% of Britain’s electricity supply could very well mean that there’s simply not enough of them. It says nothing about efficiency. The fact that on some days, the turbines have to be heated and cost energy also says very little about the overall efficiency. Same with the fact that they perform below their theoretical capacity.

    What you really want to know is: how much do we pay per kWh, and how does that compare to electricity from other sources? And at what carbon price would wind energy break even with, say, electricity from coal-powered power plants? But this article doesn’t tell you that. It suggests all sorts of things, but doesn’t give the relevant facts. Bad journalism.

    • Mike Davis says:

      Wind Farms do not provide cost effective energy! They require back up sources of energy and only work in a narrow range of wind speeds. Fools and charlatans that make money off the wind farms are the only people that believe in them. Which are you?

    • We sell below cost, but what we lose in margin we make up in volume.

    • suyts says:

      Yeh, nothing like very expensive yard whirligigs, a few dead people and mountains of debt to evoke bias against, ……..well expensive whirligigs, dead people and mountains of debt.

      I could have saved them mountains of cash if they’d just turn to me first. Not only are these more efficient (they don’t ever operate in negative power use!), but they are attractive, too! My finders fee is very cheap!

      http://thecharmingtouch.com/windwheels.htm
      http://www.whirlypets.com/

    • Justa Joe says:

      “Same with the fact that they perform below their theoretical capacity.” – SS

      How is this not a problem? It’s not their theoretical capacity it’s their specified capacity by their MFR’s. If we can’t know what their capacity to generate electricity is (It’s just theoretical according to SS) how can we install and utilize them? Why even give them a rated capacity except for marketing to the poor UK tax payers?

      “As of 1 December 2010, there were 282 operational wind farms in the UK, with 3,149 turbines and 5,194 MW of installed capacity”

      It would be a fun excercise for SS to tell us if 3149 turbines put out generously 1.6% (even though this is probably an average and a worthless number) of UK electrical generation how many wind turbines would be necessary to put out a decent percenatge of the UK’s electricity and how much resources that would cost including land mass.

      • Sundance says:

        I read elsewhere that they were generating about 43 MW in the cold which means they are .8% efficient. This is also happening in NZ as people are finding out that wind energy craps out just when they need it the most.

    • Justa Joe says:

      It says right in the article.

      “Over the past three weeks, with demand for power at record levels because of the freezing weather, there have been days when the contribution of our forests of wind turbines has been precisely nothing.”

      People sold you what they claimed was 5 gigawatts of electrical generation equipment (the most expensive form of electrical generation on the planet BTW), and when it is most needed it delivers; ZERO – ZILCH -NADA. In fact it NET consumes electricity. Your response is that maybe we need to build more?

      On top of all of the other bad aspects of warmists they belong to the “He/She only hits me when he/she is drunk” mentality.

      • Jim says:

        Excellent post.

        If this had been a new gas burning electricity generation station and it behaved in the on/off/maybe/not today/not this week/maybe the week after at quarter capacity manner as wind, their would be tribunals, their would be sackings, their would be prosecutions. But no, this is green religion and as such we can’t challenge the false prophet of global warming.

    • Paul H says:

      I see Seeker is still looking for some sense.

      If windmills were so efficient, they would be built without any subsidy.

      As for the suggestion that they could be made competitive by other forms of electric paying a carbon price, I can only suggest that his brain has been addled by the cricket. It is like saying the Ozzies could have won the Ashes if they had been given a 500 run start.

  4. suyts says:

    You know, a timely delivery is essential in humor.

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

  5. Justa Joe says:

    gas – 39.93% (0.05% in 1990)
    coal – 33.08% (67.22% in 1990)
    nuclear – 19.26% (18.97% in 1990)
    renewables – 3.55% (0% in 1990)
    hydroelectric – 1.10% (2.55% in 1990)
    imports – 1.96% (3.85% in 1990)
    oil – 1.12% (6.82% in 1990)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Electricity_Supply_Industry

    If wind could actually maintain a uniform 1.6% of the UK’s electrical generation (It can’t) in order to dsiplace coal you’d need 65,000 of today’s wind turbines.

  6. Sundance says:

    An 80% increase in energy costs is certainly worth that .8% efficiency (43MW actual/5194MW rated) in wind power I calculated above. I can only guess that the MPs pushing wind have a secret plan to cull the herd in the UK or they are heavily supported financially by the wind power industry. When did the British people become sheep?

  7. mkjon says:

    “Climate Science” is a branch of “Political Science”.

  8. M. Kjonaas says:

    I see this site will not allow the truth to be published.

  9. Petrossa says:

    And to top it of, the Netherlands just signed of on a multi-billion Euro sea windfarm……. Glad i left that idiotic country.

  10. davefaith says:

    It’s Bush’s fault! He and Cheney and their oil buddies and……

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