EPA : Ministry Of Information

From the EPA website :

The portion of North America covered by snow has generally decreased since 1972




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15 Responses to EPA : Ministry Of Information

  1. Mike Davis says:

    It is only Rotten Snow!
    It is only young snow!
    They are using data from NSIDC that only uses the best homogenized data!
    What do you expect? It is the EPA after all!

  2. suyts says:

    lol, NO!!!!! The undead snow lives!

  3. Andy Weiss says:

    But Steve, you are cherry picking! If your staring year was 12,943 BC rather than 1967 the trend would be down!

  4. Dave N says:

    Oddly enough, their data comes from Rutgers. I’m guessing they’re counting Spring and Fall as well, but doing so doesn’t look like it would produce their graph anyway.

  5. R. de Haan says:

    I always though State Agencies had to publish correct data?
    Anyhow there must be one or another Act to take care of that.

    But obviously lying about our climate is allowed.

  6. Curious says:

    Well doesn’t this contradict this post and suggests the “nonsense” that decreased arctic ice cover might be correlated to increased snow?

    No Correlation Between Arctic Ice And Northern Hemisphere Snow Extent

    As it seems the snow is trending upwards while the Arctic ice is trending downwards. And I bet if you use snow data from 1980 to match the ice graph the snow trend up will be much steeper.

    • So you acknowledge that the EPA is lying.

      • Curious says:

        Oh yes I’m not disputing that, but then doesn’t this seem to confirm the AGW spin we’ve been hearing lately that Arctic ice melt is tied to increased snow cover?

        Why not do an apples to apples comparison and show the snow from 1980 with a trend line as you’ve done for the ice from 1980.

      • Mike Davis says:

        Why ?
        Starting in 1980 is not showing the whole picture. We know the ocean atmosphere weather patterns that control the weather in the Arctic region tend to run between 40 and 80 years with an average of 60 years. Some are now claiming to see a NPO or North Pacific Oscillation, possible but probably an out flow of the PDO or a micro regional phenomena. We have the NAO, AMO for the Atlantic. Then in between the AO, Arctic Oscillation. You might see a tend that was forced by a particular combination of the three Ocean patterns working over the last 30 years but that only tells you what happened during that 30 year period. Because of the variable nature of the patterns it is not possible to accurately predict what will happen over the next 30 years but it is apparent that a shift has happened in at least 2 of the patterns and due to the quiet sun the third may also be shifting. Time will tell what that will mean.
        The other problem is the bias that went into creating those records. The record keepers have an agenda which is to justify their existence. At work we called them pencil pushers and having a sharp pencil was job security!

      • Curious says:

        @Mike Davis

        >> Why?

        Because the comparison to arctic sea ice shown here:
        starts at 1980.
        I didn’t choose the date, Steve did. All I’m saying is show the same period so the trend lines are comparable.

  7. KenChapman says:

    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” – From speech by Joseph Goebbels on 9 January 1928 to an audience of party members.
    My prime candidate for this decades’ big lie is that CO2 has this supernatural ability to reverse the 2nd law of thermodynamics using a mysterious effect called “radiative forcing”. But “well funded skeptics” ranks up there, along with “cold is the result of heat”.

  8. Howard T. Lewis III says:

    We NEED a conscientious Environmental Protection Agency. This administration’s EPA B.S. is part of messing up and bankrupting the U.S. and/or putting Americans into further slave-debt to the genetic slag of The City of London and the English Crown. Yes, reptillians, the curtain has been pulled back to expose the CFR, IMF, and Co. as the desperate little bunch of wankers that has oppressed the world for far too long. Their legions of greed-guided devilment will find few friends now that their partners in crime have shot themselves (AND you) in the foot by doing the DH aggression against the U.S. and God and Gaea. You and they will now have to talk to Benny the Rat since the spiritual guidance of the Church of England amounted to squat. Maybe Benny the Rat will grant his church’s peculiar less than devine one-size-fits-all form of absolution for your transgressions.
    For a fee…and certain… ‘considerations’…

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