More Spectacular Incompetence From GISS

GISS shows June anomalies north of 80N from 0-5 to 4C. They depend heavily on those large North Pole numbers to bring the global average up.

Data.GISS: GISS Surface Temperature Analysis

A couple of minor problems.

  1. It is impossible to get those sort of anomalies over the ice pack in summer. Temperatures over the ice are buffered by the latent heat of melting.
  2. Actual measured temperatures show that June was below normal north of 80N.

COI | Centre for Ocean and Ice | Danmarks Meteorologiske Institut

So where do the GISS numbers come from? They pull them out from where the sun never shines, because they don’t have any thermometers north of 80N.

Data.GISS: GISS Surface Temperature Analysis

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18 Responses to More Spectacular Incompetence From GISS

  1. johnmcguire says:

    Keep pounding them Steven , thanks largely to you and Anthony Watts and Steve McIntyre and their associates, we have seen that they wil lie when it seems to suit their spin. They are older people but don’t seem to have the brains to figure out that lieing will come back to bite you. Sad state of affairs in our educational system now as our bright young people have to sift through so much garbage if they really seek the truth.

  2. hkorp says:

    I think we are winning. My jaw dropped yesterday when I read the latest issue of finnish version of Science Illustrated. It had an article about how the latest science now proves that it really was climate changing to a much colder state that forced the vikings to abandon Greenland. There even was a graph about how the GLOBAL temperatures had been changing in the last thousand years: MWP was about 1C warmer than now, LIA about 3C colder than now.

    Never since I got interested about AGW have I seen such political incorrectness been displayed in a popular science magazine. What it said in a very clear tone: hockey stick is BS and natural variation is much larger than what we have seen in the last few decades.

    This happened 30 months after the other finnish popular science magazine Tiede dedicated an entire issue telling truths about evil corrupted deniers.

  3. Brian G Valentine says:

    I don’t see that this proves anything other than Carbon Taxes work – look at Australia.

    HA HA HA

    Looks like the folks up in Arkhangelsk are having a really shitty summer

    false

  4. Andy DC says:

    I believe the cold pool in the Gulf of Alaska is causing the repeated heatwaves and dryness over much of the US. A cold low in that area puts a warm ridge over the central US. Meanwhile much of Alaska has been cold in July. Some stations below normal every day this month.

    It’s a weather pattern, not global warming. It happened in 1988, 1983, 1974, 1954, 1947, most years 1930-1936, 1913, 1901, 1894.

  5. From my recollection Hansen et al., published a peer reviewed paper that argued that he could measure temperatures from hundreds of KM’s away. (I don’t recall the exact distances.) Ever since then, he has used that paper to justify his extrapolations, although many of them are obviously absurd and/or impossible. It’s also not clear how he might account for differences in temperature along, say, the coast versus the interior and so on.

    • Brian G Valentine says:

      His favorite trick used to be “isotherms” of latitude. So it’s the same temperature in DC as it is in San Fran, or something like that.

      Maybe he had graduated to using “isotherms” of longitude. He would justify it somehow, and the people who drool on themselves wouldn’t question it, either

  6. jak says:

    Here is the current weather for Alert, Nunavut, which is well North of 80N:

    http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=alert+nunavut&MR=1

    Looks like it warmed up a lot since June. Tomorrow predicted to be warmer still.

  7. PaddikJ says:

    Good post, but one item has me confused: In the 2nd paragraph you state “Actual measured temperatures show that June was below normal north of 80N.”, but later on you state that GISS has no thermometers north of 80 degrees. Does this mean there are other forms of measurement that GISS is not availing itself of?

  8. MarkA says:

    Both Eureka and Alert in northern Canada lie at or north of 80 deg N latitude and both show a substantial warm departure from normal in June 2012 by my calculation. At Eureka the June normal max temperature is 41 F and min temperature 31 F. In June 2012 they had 9 days reach into the 50s with one day reaching 57 F. June 2012 averaged about +6 F above normal at Eureka, or slightly more than +3 C. So these “warm” values probably are spread throughout the Arctic basin for lack of any other data. July 2012 has continued warm at Eureka with 9 days reaching into the 60s. Yesterday 17 July 2012 had a max of 60 F and a low of 42 F, or about +7 F above normal. Normal for July is 48/37 F. Normals for Eureka and Alert can be found as the 2 northernmost points on this map. Click each icon to view the monthly station table:
    http://www.atmos.washington.edu/marka/yt_nwt.normals.html

    The following table shows the daily max/min temperatures from 1 June – 17 July 2012 at Eureka (71WEU). The last 2 columns are the max/min temperataure (deg F) for the previous day.
    DY STA TP HHMM N CIG VSBY WEA SLP T TD DIR SP GS PK ALT TEND 1H 3H6H 24H SNW Tmx Tmn
    June 2012:
    02 71WEU ls 0600 8 15 1026.4 35 23 0 0 7 03 0 0 39 30
    03 71WEU ls 0600 1 37 1022.5 36 25 0 0 7 04 0 07 41 33
    04 71WEU ls 0600 8 37 R- 1023.9 40 27 140 6 2 04 T T 48 34
    05 71WEU ls 0600 8 15 1019.1 38 26 270 2 7 03 0 T 42 35
    05 71WEU ls 0600 8 37 1019.1 38 26 270 2 7 03 0 T 42 35
    06 71WEU ls 0600 8 15 1022.5 36 25 360 8 2 09 T 05 39 34
    06 71WEU ls 0600 8 15 1022.5 36 25 360 8 2 09 0 05 39 34
    07 71WEU ls 0600 8 15 1024.9 35 25 320 5 7 01 0 02 38 33
    08 71WEU ls 0600 1 37 1020.7 36 24 280 10 7 07 0 0 46 33
    09 71WEU ls 0600 4 37 1024.1 40 28 320 5 2 09 0 0 42 36
    10 71WEU ls 0600 6 37 1028.6 40 26 280 8 2 05 0 0 40 35
    11 71WEU ls 0600 6 37 1028.8 42 25 280 11 7 03 0 0 46 37
    12 71WEU ls 0600 7 37 1024.1 39 25 270 7 7 10 0 0 44 38
    13 71WEU ls 0600 6 37 1020.8 40 25 270 13 2 04 0 0 44 36
    14 71WEU ls 0600 3 37 1020.0 52 29 350 3 7 07 0 0 54 38
    15 71WEU ls 0600 7 37 1008.7 42 30 140 4 7 02 02 02 56 39
    16 71WEU ls 0600 6 37 1009.1 42 26 140 7 7 03 0 02 45 38
    17 71WEU ls 0600 6 37 1013.6 37 33 160 3 2 14 0 0 47 36
    18 71WEU ls 0600 2 37 1013.4 41 31 160 8 7 08 0 T 44 37
    19 71WEU ls 0600 2 37 1007.2 50 31 10 9 7 04 0 0 52 39
    20 71WEU ls 0600 7 37 997.5 52 32 30 10 7 09 0 0 55 35
    21 71WEU ls 0600 8 10 RW- 994.4 38 36 260 2 2 06 04 09 52 35
    22 71WEU ls 0600 8 37 R- 1005.0 39 34 170 5 2 13 T 19 43 36
    23 71WEU ls 0600 7 37 1010.7 35 29 260 9 2 34 0 09 44 35
    23 71WEU ls 0600 7 37 1010.7 35 29 260 9 2 34 0 07 44 35
    24 71WEU ls 0600 7 37 1013.9 38 29 180 8 3 05 0 0 42 35
    25 71WEU ls 0600 7 37 1010.2 42 35 170 8 2 04 T T 44 37
    26 71WEU ls 0600 1 37 1019.5 39 33 140 7 2 10 0 T 45 35
    27 71WEU ls 0600 7 37 1017.0 50 37 140 10 7 06 0 0 53 39
    28 71WEU ls 0600 7 37 1020.4 44 38 0 0 2 01 T 04 55 38
    29 71WEU ls 0600 7 37 1019.2 48 37 260 4 7 03 0 0 55 38
    30 71WEU ls 0600 0 37 1015.5 46 37 270 9 2 05 0 0 57 44
    01 71WEU ls 0600 6 37 1010.4 46 37 270 12 2 03 0 0 55 44
    July 2012:
    02 71WEU ls 0600 1 37 1013.5 49 38 280 13 2 05 0 0 54 44
    03 71WEU ls 0600 1 37 1014.0 57 38 20 9 2 08 0 0 60 44
    04 71WEU ls 0600 2 37 1015.2 57 36 10 11 5 00 0 0 63 56
    05 71WEU ls 0600 0 37 1015.1 59 34 340 2 2 06 0 0 63 37
    06 71WEU ls 0600 5 37 1015.5 61 37 10 11 8 02 0 0 64 49
    06 71WEU ls 0600 5 37 1015.5 61 37 10 11 8 02 0 0 64 48
    07 71WEU ls 0600 7 37 1012.3 46 34 310 5 2 02 0 0 63 45
    08 71WEU ls 0600 7 37 1018.8 38 32 270 4 1 09 0 0 47 38
    09 71WEU ls 0600 6 37 1020.7 46 35 360 10 7 07 0 06 57 40
    10 71WEU ls 0600 1 37 1013.2 46 33 20 8 7 09 0 0 64 42
    11 71WEU ls 0600 8 37 R- 1006.3 46 35 200 2 7 01 T T 49 39
    12 71WEU ls 0600 1 37 1011.0 39 34 10 6 7 04 0 10 47 39
    13 71WEU ls 0600 8 10 R- 1007.9 47 41 150 7 1 07 02 02 52 38
    14 71WEU ls 0600 4 37 1013.6 44 37 280 8 2 09 0 03 53 42
    15 71WEU ls 0600 6 37 1014.5 53 38 140 9 5 00 0 0 54 42
    16 71WEU ls 0600 2 37 1014.7 46 34 290 5 8 01 0 0 53 40
    17 71WEU ls 0600 3 37 1010.2 54 39 120 11 6 02 0 0 62 42
    18 71WEU ls 0600 7 37 1011.9 53 40 140 12 7 03 0 T 60 42

    • Eureka is at 80.0 which is not north of 80N, and GISS has no data for Alert for June. They are both located very close to each other on land (obviously) and are not representative of the ice pack. It is impossible for the ice pack to stay that warm, and the buoy data clearly shows that Hansen is wrong.

      Try using some logic. Your argument is absurd.

      • MarkA says:

        Hey, take it easy…I’m on your side! I’m not arguing anything. I’m just trying to point out where the warm anomaly comes from.

  9. MarkA says:

    Alert June normal: 35/26 F
    Alert July normal temperature: 43/33 F
    The first 10 days of July 2012 were substantially below normal but the past 7 days have been quite warm with yesterday reaching 60 F at Alert (71ZLT).
    Max/Min temperature at Alert from (1 June – 17 July 2012):
    DY STA TP HHMM N CIG VSBY WEA SLP T TD DIR SP GS PK ALT TEND 1H 3H6H 24H SNW Tmx Tmn COMMENT
    June 2012:
    02 71ZLT ls 0600 1030.2 31 30 80 5 6 05 0 0 36 30
    03 71ZLT ls 0600 1028.2 28 27 100 1 6 03 0 0 31 27
    04 71ZLT ls 0600 1026.2 28 27 300 4 3 04 0 0 30 27
    05 71ZLT ls 0600 1024.0 28 27 290 4 7 07 0 0 30 27
    06 71ZLT ls 0600 1025.1 29 27 360 5 3 04 0 0 31 27
    07 71ZLT ls 0600 1029.3 29 27 350 8 3 05 0 0 29 26
    08 71ZLT ls 0600 1027.0 26 25 360 10 5 06 0 0 30 26
    09 71ZLT ls 0600 1027.5 28 27 30 4
    10 71ZLT ls 0600 1030.2 33 28 70 3 0 00 0 0 37 27
    11 71ZLT ls 0600 1028.8 37 31 320 9 6 11 0 0 44 32
    12 71ZLT ls 0600 1025.3 32 30 110 3 6 08 0 0 40 32
    13 71ZLT ls 0600 1019.7 33 30 80 4 0 00 0 0 35 32
    14 71ZLT ls 0600 1020.4 36 32 260 1 8 12 0 05 40 33
    15 71ZLT ls 0600 1011.1 44 34 230 14 5 22 0 0 45 33
    16 71ZLT ls 0600 1011.1 36 32 20 6 0 01 0 0 50 36
    17 71ZLT ls 0600 1013.9 37 34 100 2 2 13 02 02 44 35
    18 71ZLT ls 0600 1015.7 37 34 50 3 7 12 0 0 47 35
    19 71ZLT ls 0600 1011.6 34 32 50 4 2 01 0 0 44 34
    20 71ZLT ls 0600 1003.1 31 30 50 6 6 13 0 0 37 29
    21 71ZLT ls 0600 993.0 41 39 270 9 8 15 0 0 41 29
    22 71ZLT ls 0600 1004.6 35 33 120 12 1 10 0 17 44 33
    23 71ZLT ls 0600 1006.5 31 31 100 10 1 32 03 03 46 31
    24 71ZLT ls 0600 1012.5 33 31 70 2 3 06 0 11 46 31
    25 71ZLT ls 0600 1011.3 34 33 60 2 6 11 0 0 37 33
    26 71ZLT ls 0600 1021.0 34 32 90 7 3 11 0 02 39 32
    27 71ZLT ls 0600 1014.4 47 40 210 24 8 20 01 01 51 33
    28 71ZLT ls 0600 1021.5 41 39 60 2 8 01 0 26 50 35
    29 71ZLT ls 0600 1021.2 43 40 110 1 6 02 0 0 49 38
    30 71ZLT ls 0600 1018.1 34 34 70 4 8 10 0 0 47 34
    01 71ZLT ls 0600 1014.2 36 34 340 4 1 04 0 0 38 33
    July 2012:
    02 71ZLT ls 0600 1019.0 33 32 340 13 2 08 0 0 37 33
    03 71ZLT ls 0600 1022.8 32 32 310 3 3 03 0 0 33 32
    04 71ZLT ls 0600 1022.5 32 32 40 3
    05 71ZLT ls 0600 1022.6 36 33 330 4 3 01 0 0 37 31
    06 71ZLT ls 0600 1021.0 34 32 40 4 6 01 0 0 41 34
    07 71ZLT ls 0600 1017.7 34 33 330 5 2 03 0 0 36 32
    08 71ZLT ls 0600 1025.0 33 32 50 4 3 05 0 0 36 33
    09 71ZLT ls 0600 1025.8 36 33 340 6 6 04 0 0 38 32
    10 71ZLT ls 0600 1018.8 41 35 70 3 6 12 0 0 43 35
    11 71ZLT ls 0600 1006.1 43 38 220 1 6 08 0 0 45 37
    12 71ZLT ls 0600 1013.1 38 35 30 4 0 03 0 0 60 35
    13 71ZLT ls 0600 1006.0 43 39 330 3 5 01 0 0 48 38
    14 71ZLT ls 0600 1013.0 40 36 80 6 5 01 0 0 47 38
    15 71ZLT ls 0600 1014.4 42 38 90 6 3 05 0 0 48 36
    16 71ZLT ls 0600 1016.7 39 31 30 7 6 03 0 0 42 35
    17 71ZLT ls 0600 1012.3 44 38 90 1 6 13 0 0 46 35
    18 71ZLT ls 0600 1012.5 46 40 90 3 8 14 0 0 60 43

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