Antarctic Ice – Worse Than It Seems

Not only are they idiots, but they are shooting themselves in the foot.

Ocean warming may be a major driver of sea-ice expansion in the Antarctic, researchers report today in Nature Geoscience

Global warming expands Antarctic sea ice : Nature News & Comment

Hansen predicted the exact opposite – i.e. peak sea ice loss in the Antarctic.

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http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/effects/downloads/Challenge_chapter2.pdf

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15 Responses to Antarctic Ice – Worse Than It Seems

  1. tckev says:

    From your ‘Nature Geoscience’ reference –
    “Its authors analysed satellite and buoy observations of ocean temperature and salinity for the period 1985–2010. They then compared observed changes in those data with the output of a global climate model that simulated how losing 250 gigatonnes of meltwater from the Antarctic ice sheet each year would affect ocean conditions.

    Just 25 years of satellite data, then off to numerical model shop.

    Well, they can’t get it more wrong than Hansen could they?

  2. Andy Oz says:

    Hansen, Lacis, Rind and Russell should be charged with theft.
    They’ve been stealing oxygen.

  3. Ben says:

    The anomalies in the Southern ocean appears impotent compared to China Sea or NewFoundland.

    http://oceans.pmel.noaa.gov/uohca-plots.html

  4. Chewer says:

    Like Gavin, James fully understands the difference between our neighbor Mars with a dead core, and our planet with a hot & energetic mutated ferrous core, delivering magnetic field lines to several earth radii out and all the spheres held within it. He certainly understands all the electromagnetic forces within each layer and the interactions of all wavelengths within the magnetospheric structure, as they apply to all matter. He has no reason to guess about Earths ever-changing core over time and those effects, nor does he have any questions about the never-stable inter-planetary magnetic field as it acts upon our planet.
    He’s a true genius!
    He understands the core temperature as it is felt & distributed at all depths, crevices, mountaintops and surfaces using at least 18.4 billion monitoring points and he definitely understands that C02 is the only culprit identifiable and attributable to our over heated environment, the one we call planet earth!
    Because of his ability to measure all wavelengths of EMF within every cubic meter of space and can see the interactions and influences they have on forms of matter, we should never question his brilliance.

    • Brian G Valentine says:

      As if geothermal sources of heat were as constant as his faith in his inimitable prognostications. If tectonic plates are in motion, how could geothermal heat be constant anywhere?

      Hansen never explains why Mars, with a 98% CO2 atmospheric composition, exhibits diurnal temperature differences up to 250 deg K (the rotational period is nearly 1 Earth day) – i.e., no atmospheric Greenhouse effect.

  5. Andy OZ says:

    James Hansen is also the first to measure dark matter in space!
    By a strange coincidence, most of the universe’s dark matter is concentrated inside of him.

    • Brian G Valentine says:

      He came up with a bogus theory of an atmospheric Greenhouse on Venus because of CO2, Carl Sagan told him he was a Wunderkind, then he realized that the story could be used to play liberals like a fiddle and the rest, as they say, is history.

      • Andy OZ says:

        Superstar or black hole of world science! He is truly someone to look up to.
        Once he is deposited on Venus with a one way ticket we can all look up to him every night whilst he takes CO2 readings.

      • Brian G Valentine says:

        Note Added: The truly greatest invention of all of this was Steve Schneider’s Theory of Sulfate Aerosols, (unobserved by satellites but that didn’t bother anybody) because this wonderful bogus Theory gave them an escape hatch to use every time the Carbon Dioxide in the Air theory didn’t seem to work.

        Without the Sulfate Aerosol theory, the CO2 in the Air theory would have been dead long ago.

        (True, Schneider got a little carried away with his Sulfate Aerosol theory and predicted an imminent ice age but he got back on board with the True Religion later in his life)

  6. Brian G Valentine says:

    That’s it, Ladies and Gentlemen, the History of Climate “Science,” 1970-2013. Forty three years of Climate Alchemy and nothing of value.

    • Me says:

      Only to the gate keepers apparently.

      • Brian G Valentine says:

        Yeah, but it comes with a great method to back it up, as Lindzen describes.

        “You don’t believe this CO2 in the air theory? You’re an IDIOT. You’re a SCIENCE DENIER!”

        A lot of people couldn’t stand the thought of being an “idiot” (to people who were in fact idiots)

      • Me says:

        So let the idiots be idiots but we have to draw the line when they want us to believe in their idiocy.

      • Me says:

        Not only that we have to draw the line when the few want the whole to pay up for this idiocy.

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