Shock News : Trayvon Has a Police Record For Theft, Hiding And Acting Suspicious

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The judge says that Trayvon’s criminal past of theft, hiding and acting suspicious isn’t relevant to a case where he was hiding and acting suspicious.


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Suppose that Zimmerman gets convicted? The suppression of this evidence should be enough to get a mistrial, disbarment of the judge and prosecutor, and a huge lawsuit.

In a murder trial, the defendant is entitled to have all relevant evidence presented.

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84 Responses to Shock News : Trayvon Has a Police Record For Theft, Hiding And Acting Suspicious

  1. My friends give me diamond earrings and gold rings all the time, which I throw in my backpack with a screwdriver. Whats the problem? (Seriously, why do they keep pretending he was some sort of choir boy?)

  2. stewart pid says:

    If Obozo had a son he would be a B&E specialist.

  3. omanuel says:

    What a strange, strange way to determine justice.

  4. Turps says:

    It’s not relevant that he had 2 out of 3 ingredients for “lean” in his possession and had THC in his system either.

  5. Sunsettommy says:

    Blacks are the ones who will be the big loser in this because they do not address their own problems of their own making.They are so busy wanting to destroy a man who was forced to use a gun to defend himself again a young black thug with a growing list of criminal behavior while ignoring the devasation they wrought on themselves with the high black on black murder rate.

    They also indicate their LACK of rational thinking due to their overwhelming voting pattern for Democrats the very ones who have used them for their own purpose that does not help blacks.They live in liberal hell holes all over America yet they CONTINUE to vote for failure over and over for DECADES and stupidly think it is the Republicans who are racists.

    Frankly I am beginning to think they really have less intelligence than Caucasions and Mogoloids due to their overt self destructive ways of life.

    • mogur2013 says:

      Let me get this right. You think blacks create their own problems that they do not address. They want to ‘destroy’ a man who was only defending himself against a black thug with a growing list of criminal behavior (in spite of the fact that the ‘thug’ is dead and rather hard pressed to increase his list of any behavior). Blacks ignore the devastation they bring on themselves with black on black murder.

      Blacks lack rational thinking and vote for the very whites that take advantage of them. And blacks stupidly think the Republicans are racists.

      But you personally are just starting to think they are less intelligent than other races, since they are responsible for their own problems.

      May I kindly point out that your type of hatred towards blacks, your smug attitude of superiority towards them, and your unmitigated gall in blaming them for any hardships that they encounter, is the exact definition of racism. And that, my friend, is what will keep you and the Republicans disenfranchised for however long it takes you to drop the arrogance and finally accept that we all belong to the greatest melting pot in the history of the world. Diversity and opportunity have been our path to greatness. Exclusiveness and arrogance only hinder us on that path.

      • Sunsettommy says:

        May I kindly point out to you that it is Blacks who with free will decided to vote for their master the DEMOCRATS the very same political party that abused them for 100 years starting with those voting roadblocks and then the KKK was formed to suppress,intimidate and sometimes murder them.Then develop the Jim Crow system that kept them into perpetual shadow existence.

        The Republican party never did those things to them yet Blacks left them because they were conned by the very people who abused for so many decades.That to me is a sign that they self destructed over the last 6 decades to the point that they are in near permanent state of unhappiness and racism.Their women are notorius hater of White men and allow Black men use them like cows at an increasing rate in the big inner cities where Democrats often have the significant majority across the nation.The same areas where single parent families are most rampant with the mother too often unemployed to further weaken the family.

        This disenfranshisement talk is stupid on its face because it is a MYTH! They voted in favor of the 1964 Civil Rights act at a greater rate than the democrats did.The same democrats who fought against earlier versions with filibusters and obstruction.The same democrats who fought against the Republican president Eisenhower in the late 1950’s who called out the military to help the first black students enter formerly white schools.Recall that Governor Wallace a democrat of course tried to stop it in Alabama.

        It was the democrats who for many decades fought against Blacks inclusion into American society by making them live in a shadow one.Recall that Mayor Daley of Chicago which has been run by democrats since the 1920’s get around 90% of tyhe black vote only to see over and over get screwed by the Mayor by tearing down sections of the black areas for high rise buildings that caters to the rich and powerful.It is all brought up in the book BOSS by Mike Royko.

        Blacks put themselves into the hole because they habitually vote for the wrong people mostly democrats especially in the liberal big cities which are often the very same places where the high crime and high unemployment most often occurs.The Democrat party have never been the party to help blacks get on their two feet because of the overt socialism they use that make them dependent on the party handouts.

        It is interesting that in the 1980’s with the Republican Ronald Reagans economic initiatives have done much good to help blacks get into the middle class at a much greater rate than at any other time in history.Under Obama it has been declining and their unemployment rate at among the highest in history.

        Blacks need to stop voting for democrats overtly and automatically since it is destroying them.

        • Richard T. Fowler says:

          Tommy, the Republican and Democrat parties have been doing a square dance with liberals and conservatives ever since the demise of the Whigs. The roots of this surreal practice go all the way back to the founding, because the original parties were Federalist and Anti-Federalist, and federalism and anti-federalism both contain liberal and conservative elements. So once the debate has been successfully framed as federalism vs. anti-federalism, neither conservatism nor liberalism finds effective representation in any one party, so it’s let the square dancing begin. The worst enemies of the average person in this insanity are the party leaders, who are the greatest defenders of the philosophy of politics by political party, and that is their only firmly held principle. Beyond that they are devoid of firm principle. The moral superiority therefore is to the common voters, who over time and irrespective of their ideology or philosophy have generally voted in such a way as to try to maximize their control within a party system that seems designed to subvert their interests in favor of an established, politically rotten elite. Cf. 1984.


        • michael says:

          I couldn’t believe I was reading this:

          “May I kindly point out to you that it is Blacks who with free will decided to vote for their master the DEMOCRATS the very same political party that abused them for 100 years starting with those voting roadblocks and then the KKK was formed to suppress,intimidate and sometimes murder them.Then develop the Jim Crow system that kept them into perpetual shadow existence.”

          You haven’t kept up with events. Post-Reconstruction, the Republicans were the party of the northern, urban liberals and the Democrats the party of southern conservative racists. That has changed. Maybe you could google Dixiecrats, and inform yourself of events surrounding the 1948 election.

          Today the racists and southern conservatives are all Republican, and the mostly northern and urban liberal types the Democrats. LBJ, for instance. Should black voters go with today’s Republicans? Let’s see… in North Carolina a solidly Republican legislature has just repealed their Racial Justice Act. And also made serious changes in the voting laws that are widely seen as disenfranchising many black voters.

          It’s too bad these parties are our only choices, for sure. But don’t hold your breath waiting for southern blacks to start voting Republican. Never going to happen.

        • squid2112 says:

          Michael, perhaps you need to go review a demographics map again?

          I lived in the north for most of my life. It is staunchly Republican and conservative.

          I now live in the south, where it is staunchly Republican and conservative.

          The entire mid-section of the country, north to south, is mostly Republican and conservative.

          The left coast and the other left coast are staunchly Democrat and socialist.

          Washington state, where I grew up, is (by geographical area) mostly Republican and conservative. Only the coast, and predominately the Sea-Tac area are Democrat and socialist. Just the highest of populace.

          Oregon state, where I have friends, relatives and spent a lot of time, is predominantly (by geographical area) Republican and conservative. Only the coastal areas, predominantly Portland, are Democrat and socialist. Almost unanimously the people east of the coastal line are staunch conservatives (many Tea Party flags flying there).

          Kalifornia, where many of my family members have now left and vow to never return, is predominantly Republican and conservative, outside of the metropolis areas. However, the conservatives in that state are fleeing at an ever rapid pace.

          I could go on, but the picture is quite clear to anyone with at least two functioning brain cells to rub together. What you posted it total crap.

        • rw says:

          It’s too bad these parties are our only choices, for sure. But don’t hold your breath waiting for southern blacks to start voting Republican. Never going to happen.

          Actually, in recent years there have been several high-profile cases of black politicians switching from the Democrats to the Republicans, all in southern states. It’s just drip-drip right now, but eventually it will have consequences.

          You should also look at Star Parker’s “Uncle Sam’s Plantation”. Ms. Parker is a former welfare queen, by the way, but she pulled herself out of it and now heads a conservative think-tank. (And check out the video on the gun-control press conference she sponsored. Obama certainly isn’t going to get their vote automatically.)

      • Black Americans have to deal with their own racism (and the George Zimmerman case is, on his side, not about racism, black or white; it is about assault and battery on the part of Trayvon Martin, which is against the law, and about self-defense in fear of one’s life, on the part of George Zimmerman–and all the real evidence is on his side, has been from the very beginning). Whether they think they are entitled to it or not, Black Americans have to purge their own exclusiveness and arrogance, which, in your own words, is the exact definition of their racism. Many obviously have done so, but many like Trayvon Martin have succumbed to the soul-eating acid of “victim of white society” hissed into their ears all their lives by snakes passing as knowing elders. You don’t have to accept my words, but look up what Bill Cosby tried to tell his fellow Blacks, about self-responsibility for the thoughts they make a home for in their heads (again, my words, not Bill Cosby’s per se).

        • michael says:

          You’re saying that a Skittles-wielding black man larcenously assaulted a crazy white guy holding a gun? And that was after a 911 operator told the white guy not to go out there and get involved?

          I wonder what your opinion might have been had it been a black vigilante tracking down and shooting a white teenager coming home from the store.

        • Obviously Zimmerman wasn’t holding the gun when Martin attacked him.

          Progressives are completely insane.

        • michael says:

          Here’s another possible explanation: Zimmerman was holding the gun and Martin did NOT attack him. But they were in close proximity, words and anger escalated and a fatal scuffle ensued.

          As there is zero evidence that Martin was doing anything other than walking after dark, I would find Zimmerman to be the culpable party.

        • kuhnkat says:

          Michael, so far there is zero evidence that you are conscience. You need to wake up and read the reports from the trial where the PROSECTUION witnesses have claimed zimmerman was on his back with Trayvon punching down at him.

          You should also reread the testimony of his “girl friend” and the transcripts of their phone conversation where NOTHING is said about a gun as Trayvon and Zimmerman come together!!! You really think Trayvon would NOT have mentioned a gun to his girlfriend? That he would NOT have wanted to get that acknowledgement of his badass activity if there had been one?? I won’t even go to the point that most people would NOT approach someone brandishing a weapon. That is just braindead supposition.

          Finally for you SKITTLE and Iced Tea wielders, it was Watermelon and you need to educate yourselves by doing some research on “Purple Drank.” Then some research on his social media contacts and postts to see where his head be at.

        • gator69 says:

          “I wonder what your opinion might have been had it been a black vigilante tracking down and shooting a white teenager coming home from the store.”

          The real racists never know that they are.

        • michael says:

          Okay, here’s another question: what crime was Martin in the act of committing at the moment he was accosted by an armed vigilante?

          Or do you think it was Martin who accosted this armed vigilante? Why would he do a thing like that?

        • kuhnkat says:

          You continue to call Zimmerman an armed vigilante.

          If this is acceptable then we MUST call Trayvon a violent drug pusher/abuser and theif. The facts are in his police, school, and social media revcords.

          Where are you getting the facts on Zimmerman being a vigilante?? Oh yeah, you and the other RACISTS ASSUMPTIONS!!!

        • Latitude says:

          pound and ground………..

        • gator69 says:

          I normally do not reply to racists, but I will make an exception this time.

          “Okay, here’s another question: what crime was Martin in the act of committing at the moment he was accosted by an armed vigilante?”

          Um, he was pounding the shit out of an innocent man. And why are you calling a law abiding citizen a ‘vigilante’?

        • gator69 says:

          I believe it is called “assault”, or even “attempted murder” if he said he was going to kill Zimmerman.

        • Latitude says:

          people follow innocent people all the time…..and no one gets jumped….pound and ground

        • michael says:

          “people follow innocent people all the time…..and no one gets jumped….pound and ground”

          Latitude, you must live in a very unusual neighborhood. Anyone follows me after dark? I know they’re up to no good. There is no way any rational person could start following someone after dark and not know he was asking for trouble.

          And Gator? “Um, he was pounding the shit out of an innocent man. And why are you calling a law abiding citizen a ‘vigilante’?”

          Actually it looks like he didn’t just see Zimmerman standing there and decided to break his nose. Your “innocent man” was stalking someone after dark while in possession of a gun.

        • kuhnkat says:


          After dark?? Apparently you only pick out what you WANT to have happen when reading. Did you bother to read any other reports as to the time this occurred??

          Sunset on Feb 26 was at 6:28. After dark??? You REALLY need to find some FACTS.

          What all you RACISTS ignore is that Trayvon could have simply gone to his destination and had no ENCOUNTER with Zimmerman at all. Far from Zimmerman being the aggressor, Trayvon made a Conscious Decision to go BACK and CONFRONT Zimmerman!!!

          Did that break any law?? NO!! But it was the same thing Zimmerman did. What is the deciding factor is that Trayvon Consciously Decided and started beating Zimmerman down and not stop until he was shot.

        • Latitude says:

          moron, innocent people don’t jump someone….following them or not
          and no one jumps someone…unless they think they’re going to win

          Martin thought he could beat the crap out of the fat little hispanic….
          and he would have…..except

          Innocent people don’t do that…I don’t care what color they are
          People that have something to hide….do that

          Zimmerman had every right to use his gun…he was legal…..

        • michael says:

          “You continue to call Zimmerman an armed vigilante. If this is acceptable then we MUST call Trayvon a violent drug pusher/abuser and theif. The facts are in his police, school, and social media revcords.”

          Kuhnkat: During the time of the assault it would be correct to say that an armed vigilante was stalking a person he had decided was suspicious. And it would be incorrect to say that a teenager walking back from the store was actively committing some crime, such as violently pushing or abusing drugs, or being a thief.

          Martin was committing no crime. One is tempted to suspect that his real crime that night was Walking While Black.

        • kuhnkat says:


          “Kuhnkat: During the time of the assault it would be correct to say that an armed vigilante was stalking a person he had decided was suspicious. And it would be incorrect to say that a teenager walking back from the store was actively committing some crime, such as violently pushing or abusing drugs, or being a thief.”

          [vij-uh-lan-tee] Show IPA
          a member of a vigilance committee.
          any person who takes the law into his or her own hands, as by avenging a crime.
          done violently and summarily, without recourse to lawful procedures: vigilante justice.

          Again, you are making ASSumptions to use the term vigilante unless you are using it in the first definition. If so you should use the more accurate term Neighborhood Watch member to exclude confusion as to your intent. I would also point out that posessing a firearm would make a HUGE number of Floridians vigilantes if that was the only requirement. Please present your evidence that Zimmerman had an intent to act violently and outside the law. Your ASSumptions show your race based bias and prejudice. Your continuing to call this Hispanic individual who DOES speak Spanish a WHITE man also shows your bias and prejudice in this case. When are you going to start calling our president a white man?? He does not speak any African dialects that we have been told about!!

          As far as Trayvon, he had marijuana in his system that is NOT legal in Florida and apparently was attempting to get the ingredients for more Lean. Yes he was breaking the law, BUT, I will concede Zimmerman had no way of knowing this. As I stated in my last post, up until the moment that Trayvon started beating Zimmerman down neither man had knowledge of the others intent. Zimmerman called the police. Why did Trayvon not do this and why did he not simply go to his destination??

          Because he was a paranoid, violent, drug abuser who was into the Race thang and YOU are racist as you can only see this from Tayvon’s, a black teenager’s, point of view.

          I would be interested in how your view of the Lacrosse players developed over the time from initial report of the rape to the final denouement where the mentally disturbed woman was shown to have LIED and the young men accused, tried, and convicted in the press ruining a number of innocent lives, were shown to have been INNOCENT!!

        • squid2112 says:

          Michael, you are a complete idiot.

          You are precisely what my black friends hate. I have many black friends, friends of all races and creeds. You are the exact despicable trash that my friends hate, because you make them look bad. My friends are all successful business and technology people, ie: they can think. And because they can think, they are also conservatives, constitutionalists, and decent honest people that make MY world a better place. And they hate people like YOU!

        • There Is No Substitute for Victory says:

          Twice as many Americans are murdered every year by bare knuckles fist wielding thugs as are killed by rifles of all calibers and types. So the much larger Mixed Martial Arts aficionado, Trayvon Martin, wasn’t unarmed, he was armed with TWO deadly weapons. Weapons that the FBI’s crime report proves kill two times more Americans every year than all the rifles in the United States combined, (including the M16, AK47, and the Bushmaster rifles) Who ever is guilty, if there is a guilty party in this case, all sides should get over their selves.

      • gator69 says:

        I work in a large city with mostly blacks, due to the demographics and hiring practices. They will tell you that they have a cultural issue, one that destroys from within. Recently a woman with whom I work related how a family member had opened a successful business in his neighborhood, and it was torched simply out of jealousy.

        The word on the street is that ‘snitches get stitches’, and nobody cooperates with the cops to stop this insanity. DOJ stats show blacks are FIFTY times more likely to commit a violent crime than a white. Math is not racist, and neither is pointing out the obvious. I’m through with this self sacrificing PC insanity. Time to speak the truth.

        • Sunsettommy says:

          Yes it was the blacks who injected racism into the Zimmerman case with the notorius race baiter Al $harpton and the media drumming it such as NBC producing an EDITED tape of the conversation between the 911 operator and Zimmerman making him appear to speak like a racist.

          Blacks are so deep into their racism that they can’t see its destructive power on themselves.

          Racialized prosecutorial indiscretion in the Zimmerman case

          Selected Excerpt:

          “My overall impression of the trial doesn’t really deviate from my overall impression of the pre-trial phase: This is a case which never should have been brought, and would not have been brought except for racial politics.

          Florida prosecutors made an initial decision not to prosecute after the police investigation. Those prosecutors did what prosecutors should do, take a disinterested and dispassionate view of the evidence in determining whether the state could prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt.

          The facts known at that time of the initial decision not to prosecute do not materially differ from the facts known now that the prosecution has rested its case.

          What changed along the way was that the Martin family through the Parks and Crump law firm, assisted by agitators like Al Sharpton, launched a campaign to portray the decision not to prosecute in racial terms. The media was an all-too-willing accomplice in stirring up public protests alleging that this was a racially motivated killing.

          NBC published an edited tape purporting to show that Zimmerman considered that Martin was suspicious because black; in reality the full tape showed that Zimmerman identified Martin as black only in response to a later police question. Allegations were made that Zimmerman used the word “coon” to describe Martin, when even the prosecution now acknowledges that the word used was “punk.”

          The “hoodie” was mentioned only when the 911 operator asked Zimmerman to describe Martin’s clothing, yet the “hoodie” has become the image most associated with the case and is used to put a racial context on Zimmerman’s concern. That did

          not stop college and law students from holding rallies in which students wore hoodies in solidarity with Martin, as if that were the reason a shot was fired

          The false racial narrative of the case created such public pressure and threats of ongoing protests and potential violence that Special Prosecutor Angela Corey was appointed, and the inevitable decision to file the case was made. Corey has shown herself to be particularly thin-skinned as to criticism of her decision to prosecute.

          The prosecution never let go of its desire to inject racial politics into the case. Only by virtue of a judicial ruling barring the use of the term “racial profiling” was the prosecution stopped. Once it became clear that the racial angle could not be worn on its sleeve, the prosecution acted as if it never really intended to go there anyway.

          There are links in the above excerpt in the link to back up his points.

        • cheeky says:


          Black people got that “dog-eat-dog” mentality from hundred of years of being hated,lynched and treated like s*** by WHITE people who started,instigated and have been profitting off racism since this country started. Also, the “Snitch” thing is not the case in ALL black neighborhoods—that’s just in some ghettos, and not even in every single one. I also have a problem with your claims that black people are just naturally more prone to crime than anybody else—show me some actual numbers,post a link—I’m not gonna believe you just because you said it. Usually it’s white supremacists who spout that bull**** to begin with. I mean, think about it–hor the hell can black people commit ALL the crimes, even though we’re only 13% of the pop.? Sorry, but the numbers do NOT add up at all,and you know it. White people are the majority, so of course they commit the most crimes! And of course, they’re also 37% of welfare recipients, but you’ll never hear a Repubican admit to that. Math isn’t racist by itself, but people will and have manipulated statistics for their own agenda, so don’t pretend like white people are above doing that, because you aren’t.

    • cheeky says:

      j@Sunset Tommy

      No,dear, race has NOTHING to do with intelligence. George Bush was considered our most stupid president—hell even white folks who WORKED for him thought he was stupid as hell,plus him being a damn drunk /spoiled rich white dude.on top of that. Also, how come EVERY time a black person does something or gets accused of something, white people always have to start on these bullshit tirades about everything that’s wrong with black people,as if we don’t already we have problems and are trying to solve them? And,yes, black people DO get profiled more than anybody else in this country and always have—that’s why Zimmerman felt like he could go after Martin and profile and attack him. And then shoot him because he couldn’t handle a damn fight his fat,stupid, drugged-up ass started. Bottom line, Zimmerman is just a punk bully who has been getting away with assaults on police officers, domestic violence, slamming a woman down so hard she broke her ankle on his security guard job (he got fired, of course) and that IS on his criminal record—look it up) because his daddy, a magistrate could always pull some strings to get him off. And of course, he got off once again in this case,even though he should have been charged with manslaughter.

      BTW, you ignorant racist, you can’t even spell worth a damn. And the Republicans have made it clear by their racist actions and words that they do NOT give a damn about black people or women or ANYBODY that isn’t white,male or rich. Ever wonder why they don’t ever have a large amount of black people in their ranks? THAT’S why.

      And,BTW can you tell me why all the killers in these horrible school shootings always seen to be white boys? Why the hell is that the case? Yet I don’t see anybody saying that white boys or men who act crazy and suspicious ought to be profiled 24/7 damn days a week. But yet black men have always been profiled, no matter what they look like,dress like, or act like since we were brought here in chains. So get the fuck out of here with that white people are more superior than anybody else bullshit. White people have always said that white supremacist shit just to justify being on top and in charge, and now that Obama proved that a black man can run the country just like white folks have been doing, that just fucks you racists the hell up. Whatever—go crawl off under a damn rock or something and depreciate, you racist bastards.

      • kuhnkat says:


        George Bush had an IQ the same as Kerry, both about 135. Kerry wouldn’t release his college records because Bush, the cocaine smorting drunk, had pipped him in the GPA category!!


        In fact, you are so ignorant you are prattling about things you know nothing about and spreading malicious LIES!!

        George’s PUSHING a police offer and having a scuffle when they decided to arrest him for interfering with their arresting his friend is well documented and most people qualify for similar treatment. But hey, thanks for repeating the Racist Smear machine propaganda.

        “And,BTW can you tell me why all the killers in these horrible school shootings always seen to be white boys? Why the hell is that the case?”

        Sure, these were all MENTALLY DISTURBED people. The reports of their activities leading up to the incidents consistently report on the fact that they were mentally disturbed. Most of them were or had been getting treatment and were or had been taking drugs that often cause suicidal and violent activities. In most cases they had been reported to the authorities who did nothing.

        Considering the difference in the numbers of black and white kids, and the fact that there is much less drugging by doctors of the black community, it is not really surprising that no blacks have gone this direction that we know of. Of course, when the media doesn’t even bother reporting the robbery, rapes, torture, and murders of a group of 6 dinner guests by two armed black men who invaded their home, I find your suggestion that only whites are commiting atrocities a little uninformed and probably not your fault.

        My question is why ignorant fools like you insist on parading it on the internet?!?!?!

  6. Andy DC says:

    I am sick of Trayvon being referred to as “just a child”. Maybe in a strict legal sense, but someone 17 can be very strong and capable of doing a lot of harm. It is not at all certain whether Zimmerman had any strength advantage if attacked or the superior fighter of the two.

  7. casual_observer says:

    Simple answer: Zimmerman never should have left his home after he was directed by the authorities to stay home. He was not protecting his home he was going out to confront whomever he found with a weapon. the situation got out of hand; he lost control and had to shoot the young man. Its murder plain and simple. He didn’t have to go out there and could have waited for the authorities. Please leave this alone. Whether he walks or not he was completely wrong. whether the young man was a criminal or not he was wrong. He should have left the issue to the authorities… or is it okay to start just walking up to people and accusing them of something and not expect retribution?

    • The police tell people to stay home? Thanks for clearing that up comrade.

      • michael says:

        Casual Observer must be a Commie to say something like that. Right, Steve? Let’s go to the actual transcript of the call:

        Operator: Are you following him?
        Zimmerman: Yeah.
        Operator: We don’t need you to do that.

        Further into the transcript the operator instructs him to wait and meet the police by the apartment house mailboxes. It’s all right here:

        • cheeky says:


          Oh, yeah, right—anybody who dosen’t agree with you non-thinking right-wing nut Tea Party freaks is a Commie,huh? Never mind that if someone asked you to explain communism, you wouldn’t know what the hell to say beyond, “Uh, he/she hates America because he/she’s a damn Commie,” blah blah blah ha ha ha!

      • I see that you are looking to be spam too!

        • michael says:

          Now you’re responding with threats? You do know that all I referred you to was the facts of the phone call. Right?

          Please try to calm down. All I’m saying is that if you take the race out of the equation, what you have is an armed man stalking and shooting an unarmed man– while he was committing no crime. Could we at least agree on that?

        • kuhnkat says:

          “All I’m saying is that if you take the race out of the equation, what you have is an armed man stalking and shooting an unarmed man– while he was committing no crime. Could we at least agree on that?”


          All we have is an armed neighborhood watch person calling in a report to the police of a suspicious person who is a stranger to him wandering through the neighborhood in a manner that would seem to be suggestive of previous thugs.

          We then have this stranger attacking the neighborhood watch person to the point he is forced to SHOOT the stranger in self defense.

          Ignoring race is fine. Ignoring the rest of the facts is not.

        • Latitude says:

          LOL…and he broke his own nose, and bloodied his own head

        • michael says:

          I would find it entirely consistent with the facts to think that Martin noticed a suspicious man following him, called him out on it, the man became belligerent and combative, and Martin then broke his nose. Here’s what we know about the encounter:

          In fact this interpretation would indicate that at the time, Zimmerman was NOT holding his gun. Otherwise Martin would have run.

        • kuhnkat says:

          “I would find it entirely consistent with the facts to think that Martin noticed a suspicious man following him, called him out on it, the man became belligerent and combative, and Martin then broke his nose. Here’s what we know about the encounter:”

          That would be YOUR hallucination. Please excerpt where you have gotten the FACTS from this or any other plausible article that would support it.

          In fact, you might try and stop being a racist advocate for a violent drug abusing theif and read the links I have previously posted. Or do you have an aversion to facts??

        • Latitude says:

          so, Martin thought Zimmerman was unarmed…..and thought he could get away with pound and ground

        • michael says:

          “so, Martin thought Zimmerman was unarmed…..and thought he could get away with pound and ground”

          Let’s make this very clear. Martin was walking back from the store after dark and most likely found a man following him. He most likely told him to back off.

          What happened next? It seems obvious to me that it was not Martin initiating the assault. After all, he was the one being followed. But it will be up to the jury to make that call.

        • Latitude says:

          But it will be up to the jury to make that call.
          oh please, this has nothing to do with law
          If that kid was any other color…no one would even know about it

          ….this has nothing to do with law…’s all about race and nothing else

        • kuhnkat says:

          Here is probably why the jury could NOT believe much of anything the prosecution said. it also debunks most of what the media said. Yasee, the lady friend testified that Martin had been talking to her from the backyard of the home he was staying AFTER he had been followed by htat Creepy Assed Cracka!!

          Do try and follow the time line and logic:

    • KuhnKat says:


      I would suggest you go back and reread the news reports. You are so far from the admitted reality you could qualify as hallucinatory.

      The 911 operator has no authority to order anyone around, they can only make suggestions. Zimmerman was NOT at home when this started and the suggestion was that he wait where he was.

      I will repeat what I have said elsewhere. When we can no longer even approach strangers in our neighborhoods and ask them what they are doing there we no longer have ANY rights. This infringes on our Freedom of speech, to be secure in our homes…

      What you are suggesting would lead to what happens in Britain where you cannot fight back even when the criminal breaks into your home and physically attacks you!!! It is MUCH safer for the criminal. Not so much for the honest hard working citizen who pays for their upkeep, jails, handouts…

      • cheeky says:

        @Kuhn Kat

        You’re forgetting one very important thing—-Martin had EVERY right to be in that gated community because,like Zimmerman, he LIVED there. Funny how you pro-Zimmerman nuts ALWAYS seem to leave that out. The neighborhood watch rules (put together by Florida sheriffs–look them up) tell volunteers NOT to approach anyone they deem suspicious (that’s the job of the police) and they are NOT supposed to be armed in the first place because they are NOT the actual police. And another thing—Zimmerman claimed that Martin approached the car, so that he was too scared to get out of the car. Yet he STILL got out of the car and followed him. Sorry, but if I see someone come near me in a car, and I’m suspicious of them, I’m staying in the damn car–I sure as hell am not gonna get out like an idiot and follow them on foot ON a dark rainy night,mind you. Another thing—how come it never occurred to him to ID himself as a neighborhood watch person to Martin—if he had had the common sense to approach him THAT way,none of what happened would have even happened in the first damn place. And black people live in that gated community too—so how come it never occurred to Zimmerman that Martin lived there? Nope,he HAD to be a thug simply because he was a young black man wearing a hoodie. Whatever—Zimmerman’s gonna have to live with the fact that he shot an unarmed teen who was harming NO one and just walking home from the store—that’s on him.

        • As soon as you start bashing someone else’s head against the pavement – your rights are gone.

          Have you always been a moron, or is this something recent?

        • kuhnkat says:

          Cheeky you moron,

          I already posted the timeline showing, based on his girlfriends testimony, that Trayvon went home and was talking to her from the back yard before going back and beating down Geroge Zimmerman. How stupid are you really?!?!?!

          Of course they BOTH had a right to be there. They BOTH had a right to approach and talk to each other. Where you and the rest of the Master Race Baiters lose is that Trayvon was a drug abusing, thieving, VIOLENT moron and attacked George Zimmerman with no provocation and kept beating him even after a neighbor witnessed it!!!

          No BS about Stand Your Ground. Pure self defense.

          Get over it.

        • squid2112 says:

          And by they way Cheeky, Martin did NOT live there. He was visiting, dipshit.

    • Sunsettommy says:

      It was a dispatcher who asked him to stop FOLLOWING Martin and he did shortly afterwards.But the 911 operator does not have the legal authority to tell Zimmerman not to follow him.His following activity is legal because he was on the phone talking about a suspicious person who seems to prowl between houses in a GATED COMMUNITY and was following him to keep track of the person while the police was coming.

      His gun was in the holster right up to the time he was punched in the nose as the phone conversation between Martin and the girl indicates and the girl advised Martin to move away and he did not which also indicate he was the one who caused the confrontation since the testimony and evidence clearly show that Zimmerman was following at a distance at all times.

      You forget that it was Zimmerman who alerted the police who arrived right after the shooting happened.The same Zimmerman who after getting off the phone with 911 operator was then walking back to his vehicle having lost track of Martin as he told the woman on the phone to await for the arrival of the police.

      You need to follow the case much better if you want to know better what really happened. From this link is the debunking of myths you seem to have uncritically swallowed because you didn’t do your research:


      1. On the night of the shooting, the police ordered Zimmerman to stay in his vehicle.

      “Are you following him?” the operator for the Sanford police’s non-emergency line asks Zimmerman. “Yeah,” he says. The dispatcher on the phone tells him: “We don’t need you to do that.”

      Who the aggressor was that fateful night is the central — and most unanswerable — question of the case. Those who fault Zimmerman have latched on to this back-and-forth with Sean Noffke, the operator, as proof that Zimmerman defied a direct police order.

      Not so. Noffke testified on the first day of the jury trial that it is dispatchers’ policy not to give orders to callers. “We’re directly liable if we give a direct order,” he explained. “We always try to give general basic . . . not commands, just suggestions.” So, “We don’t need you to do that” is different than a more direct “Don’t do that.”

      Under cross-examination, Noffke added more context to his “suggestion” when asked whether his requests for updates on what Martin was doing encouraged Zimmerman to follow the unarmed 17-year-old. “It’s best to avoid any kind of confrontation, to just get away from the situation,” Noffke said.

    • gator69 says:

      The reason Zimmerman was out walking was BECAUSE of the Trayvons of this world. Zimmerman’s neighborhood had been the sight of numerous break ins and he was doing his part as a responsible citizen to stop crime.

      And he stopped a criminal.

  8. dbstealey says:

    ‘Casual observer’ has obviously never been assaulted or burglarized. Further, the telephone ‘authorities’ have zero authority to make someone go back home and wait — how long? — for a cop to finish his donut and drop by. Would ‘casual observer’ tuck tail and run, if he thought a crime was being planned in his neighborhood? Well, in his case, maybe so.

    That said, this judge has been heavily biased from the get-go. After seeing the Obama Administration so easily get Chief Justice John Roberts to flip his vote over Obamacare, it would be very easy to get to a small-time judge like this to take sides.

    Judges are no less ambitious than anyone else; probably more so. Dangle a federal magistracy or judgeship in front of Ms Nelson, and I think she would fall all over herself to tilt the playing field.

    We are seeing Zimmerman get railroaded. In any average case, the judge would have thrown this one out due to a complete lack of evidence. The police even closed out their investigation by releasing Zimmerman, who was always in compliance with Florida law.

    But stir Obama, judge Nelson, and black spokes-rousers into the mix, and the result is that Zimmerman gets sent down the river for properly defending his life — something that ‘casual observer’ and anyone else would have done under the same circumstances.

  9. daveburton says:

    Here’re some more recent pics, of gangsta Trayvon Martin…

  10. Jon says:

    Like hussein says, just like the son he never had, yup, it figures, makes complete sense, just like that.

  11. KuhnKat says:

    “In a murder trial, the defendant is entitled to have all relevant evidence presented.”

    Unless he is lower on the Victim list than the opposing team in which case Social Justice demands that inconvenient facts must be ignored or denied.

  12. Mike Mangan says:

    While we’re on the subject of race, there’s a riveting Craig’s List rant going around the blogosphere…

  13. Richard T. Fowler says:

    Since a mouthful is being said about the issues raised by Sunsettommy, I have a mouthful to say in return.

    Tragically, there is a lot of racism and racial prejudice (I define the former as being an conscious or self-aware manifestation of the latter, which must be sub-conscious or non-self-aware to warrant application of the term) found on both sides of the conservative-liberal spectrum. However, pure conservatism as I define it states that it is self-evident that all men are created politically equal. Yes, Mogur, I consider this to be an element of conservatism, though of course it is possible for a generally liberal person to believe it as well.

    Thus the true conservative does not find himself entertaining questions of inherent superiority or inferiority of races, a question that firstly has spiritual implications for all of us and thus is really not our business but only God’s; secondly is really not knowable to us due to the lack of any means of means of studying it objectively; and thirdly is ultimately not politically relevant to anything.

    Moreover, for Christians, the Biblical teaching on this question is that the Bible is entirely silent on the matter, therefore Christians are signaled clearly that it is not our province to entertain such questions. The Bible does clearly indicate in Revelation 6:2-8 that each race has its own particular demon, which imparts a specific specific weakness or vulnerability toward a certain kind of sin, but it does not draw qualitative or quantitative distinction between these weaknesses. Therefore, neither should we.

    You know, the funny thing about self-evident truths is that the self-evidence is in the eye of the beholder. Tragically, not everyone is certain or even aware that a self-evident truth is either true or self-evident.

    For all who doubt my assertion that the self-evidence of the truth I referenced is inherently a conservative and not a liberal position, I regret that I cannot think of a way that you would find acceptable, for me to prove the assertion, because it seems to require that I first prove to your satisfaction that the United States is the only nation of the present day to have been founded on truly conservative principles, and I cannot conceive of a proof of this that would be convincing to a reader who is not already generally conservative.

    For those who think that this invalidates the proposition, in a strict logical sense you may be right. However in a strict logical sense the opposite (that it is not inherently conservative or liberal) cannot be proven either. So you have two choices, either don’t talk about it at all, or if you really must talk about it (as I am of necessity doing), recognize that my proposition is at least partly faith-based — that is, it is one of those many truths out there that must be believed first before the proof can be seen. For anyone who knows, as I do, that the supernatural is real and truly does exist, there should be no discomfort with this sort of proof.

    The scientific viewpoint of all this is that the Nazis and eugenicists were those who tried to establish a “scientific” method of politically and socially comparing the races. Today, the generally accepted scientific position is that there is no scientific way to do so, and that attempts to do so are therefore not science.

    Finally I want to comment on political parties and race, since that issue was raised. There is no question that both major U.S. parties have a very nasty habit of exploiting people based on various group membership, including race. When done based on race, this is a form of race-baiting, and it is repugnant regardless of which party does it. Therefore honesty demands that conservatives denounce both major parties for this behavior, and I certainly do so now! This is essentially why the Founders were so skeptical of political parties. How do you denounce a party of which are a member for engaging in blatantly hypocritical behavior? The answer is of course that you can’t. By such action, you are by definition disassociating yourself from the party. And so there is a strong disincentive among party members from doing so, which is properly recognized as the so-called noble-cause corruption. Conservatives must, for the reason I have been discussing, shun the Republican Party equally with the Democratic Party for engaging in race-based exploitation and racial prejudice. To do otherwise is to let the liberal camel get its nose under the tent of conservatism. Thus to preserve conservatism, the Republican Party must be shunned for engaging in the said behavior. To associate publicly with such behavior brings conservatism into further disrepute than it already is, and can result in further loss of popular support for our principles.


    • Richard T. Fowler says:

      “The real racists never know that they are.” –> “If you know that you are, then you can know that you are not.”

      and also –>

      “If you do not know that you are, then you cannot know that you are not.”

      ?!? 😦


      • gator69 says:

        Leftists believe in identity politics, but what they do not know is that this is racism.

        I could go on…

  14. gator69 says:

    “Let’s make this very clear. Martin was walking back from the store after dark and most likely found a man following him. He most likely told him to back off.”

    A word of advice to those of us who are white and not violent criminals, do not walk through michael’s neighborhood, because if he catches you following him he feels justified in attempted murder.

    • michael says:

      In my neighborhood if anyone of any race is following anyone of any race after dark, he is putting himself in harm’s way. No one assumes a benevolent reason for someone following them.

      Especially when they are armed.

  15. gator69 says:

    “Kuhnkat: During the time of the assault it would be correct to say that an armed vigilante was stalking a person he had decided was suspicious. And it would be incorrect to say that a teenager walking back from the store was actively committing some crime, such as violently pushing or abusing drugs, or being a thief.”

    So neighborhood watchmen are now ‘vigilantes’? You are a moron. What were those people supposed to do? Just sit by as thugs take over the town?

    “Martin was committing no crime. One is tempted to suspect that his real crime that night was Walking While Black.”

    The crime was assault. According to the victim of this random attack, the man doing the ground and pound (T had a ground & pound video on his phone) said ‘you are going to die tonight’.

    What part of ‘self defense’ do you not get? It is perfectly legal to carry a gun in Florida, and it is absolutely American to defend your property.

    You have to be one of the worst cases of self inflicted ignorance that I have ever seen.

    • michael says:

      Was Zimmerman a Neighborhood Watch volunteer? Sort of. He’d received no training or formal designation I’ve read about. Here’s all we know about that:

      “In September 2011, the Twin Lakes residents held an organizational meeting to create a neighborhood watch program. Zimmerman was selected by neighbors as the program’s coordinator, according to Wendy Dorival, Neighborhood Watch organizer for the Sanford Police Department.[6][6][91]”

      And also, let’s take a look at the assertion that some totally upright citizen was following a known criminal, scum of the earth. What do we know about George Zimmerman?

      “In 2005, Zimmerman was charged with assaulting a police officer and resisting arrest, after shoving an officer while a friend of Zimmerman’s was being questioned about underage drinking. The charges were reduced, then dropped when Zimmerman entered a pre-trial diversion program. Also in 2005, Zimmerman’s ex-fiance filed a restraining order against him, alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman requested a reciprocal restraining order. Both orders were granted.[67][68] The incidents were raised by prosecutors at Zimmerman’s initial bond hearing. The judge described the incidents as “run of the mill” and “somewhat mild” and rejected the prosecution’s claim that the incidents demonstrated that Zimmerman was violent or a threat to the community.[3][69][70]”

      My guess is that both men were typical of the neighborhood. One has been known to smoke some dope (imagine!). And the other occasionally assaults his girlfriend or a police officer.

      • gator69 says:

        Nice hand waving. 😆

        That changes nothing.

        A bad man jumped an innocent man, and the innocent man was smart enough to be packing. Bad career move by Trayvon.

        End of story.

      • kuhnkat says:


        you RACISTS are amazing. I have answered every objection by you and your PROPAGANDA from the Lame Stream media and now you wish to try and SMEAR Zimmerman with some old activity. That is fair as I have brought up Trayvon’s obviously VIOLENT, Criminal, Drug addled past of his last eighteen months against Zimmerman’s married, working, and going to school last 18 months!!

        OK, so what about Zimmerman’s arrest and domestic violence charges.

        “Zimmerman was talking with his friend, became profane and pushed an agent who tried to escort him away, the report said. Authorities said he was arrested after a short struggle.

        Charged with resisting arrest without violence, he avoided conviction by entering a pretrial-diversion program, something common for first-time offenders

        A month later, court records show, a woman filed a petition for an injunction against Zimmerman, citing domestic violence. It’s unclear what led to the petition, but Zimmerman responded by filing a petition of his own the following day.”

        Oh yeah, really sounds like a dangerous homicidal type there Michael. Resisting WITHOUT violence?? Judge grants cross injunctions from both parties??


        On the other person we have talks of beating people down specifically a bus driver for no reason. We have him saying he is going to kill Zimmerman. We have his drug abuse to provide mental instability. We have his online interest in street fighting…

        Michael BAAAA!!! BAAAA!!! BAAAA!!! BAAAA!!!

        You still haven’t explained why it should be OK for Trayvon to get in Zimmerman’s face and beat him down when he could have simply proceeded to his destination and it isn’t OK for Zimmerman to follow a stranger in his neighborhood.

        BAAAA!!! BAAAA!!! BAAAA!!! BAAAA!!!

        “The defense, he said, may have the most luck in getting the allegation that Martin was an experienced fighter before the jury.”

        You have NO EVIDENCE that Zimmerman ever struck anyone in anger yet follow the Media and other racists like a good little sheep!!

        BAAAA!!! BAAAA!!! BAAAA!!! BAAAA!!!

        What you REALLY should be wondering about is why it was so easy for bloggers to find so much about Trayvon and virtually nothing derogatory about Zimmerman.

        BAAAA!!! BAAAA!!! BAAAA!!! BAAAA!!!

    • Latitude says:

      oh please….if Martin had been any other color….no one would even know about it

      This happened at a time the blacks were looking for something..

  16. Latitude says:

    Zimmerman Prosecutor Angela Corey Criminally Indicted By Citizens’ Grand Jury For Allegedly Falsifying Arrest Warrant And Complaint

    OCALA, Fla., July 2, 2013 — /PRNewswire/ — Florida State’s Attorney Angela Corey has been indicted by a citizens’ grand jury, convening in Ocala, Florida, over the alleged falsification of the arrest warrant and complaint that lead to George Zimmerman being charged with the second degree murder of African-American teenager Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida.

    The indictment of Corey, which was handed down last week (see, charges Corey with intentionally withholding photographic evidence of the injuries to George Zimmerman’s head in the warrant she allegedly rushed to issue under oath, in an effort to boost her reelection prospects. At the outset of this case, black activists such as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who whipped up wrath against Zimmerman, demanded that he be charged with murder, after local police had thus far declined to arrest him pending investigation.

    Following Corey’s criminal complaint charging Zimmerman, legal experts such as Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz condemned her for falsely signing an arrest affidavit under oath, which intentionally omitted exculpatory evidence consisting of the photographs showing the injuries Zimmerman sustained, and rushing to charge him with second degree murder under political pressure. Dershowitz called her actions unethical and themselves crimes

  17. Olaf Koenders says:

    Like I always say, there’s nothing more racist than a minority group.

    • cheeky says:


      Oh,like YOU say,huh? Bull***! Maybe if the majority group weren’t so damn hellbent on being racist toward the minority group every damn chance they got, that wouldn’t be the case. Minorities don’t just wake up one damn morning and decide that they’re just gonna hate the minority out of nowhere. 300 years of being constantly treated like s*** under slavery, and another 100 years of being treated like s*** under Jim Crow (look it up,I’m not doing it for you) tend to do that to a minority,and give them some pretty pissed-of attitudes toward the majority (who are responsible for all that in the first place) you know.

      • Chewer says:

        As long as we keep that 300 year dream alive, we’ll all be so much better for it:)
        Good show Cheeky, I’m sure you make everyone proud!

      • gofer says:

        According to a recent poll 36% of blacks thought blacks were more racists than whites. So hating whites today somehow compensates for what some whites did a hundred years ago? When 4 blacks chased down and beat up a Hispanic man, in Baltimore, yesterday, while saying “This is for Trayvon”, was that particular man at fault for what happened to Trayvon? Or the 4 blacks in Ga. beating an pushing a white kid into traffic, killing him? Are these racist crimes? Will hating whites stop the killings in Chicago or improve the graduation rate, especially since kids, who do study, are accused of “acting white?”

        The question remains, WHY are people trying to make this about race when not a single shred of evidence suggests Zimmerman had a racist bone in his body, even confirmed by the FBI investigation? His mother is a black Peruvian. He stood-up for the black homeless man who was beaten by a policeman. He was a democrat OBama supporter.

        IF Zimmerman’s name had been Gonzales, then there would have never been any of this, but when the racebaiters heard the name Zimmerman, they knew it was the jackpot.

  18. Chewer says:

    The prosecution brought so many of Trayvon’s friends in as witnesses, that I lost count:)
    If it appears that you’re casing a neighborhood, that might just be the case…
    Never mind all that George has done for non-whites, that doesn’t fit the twisted progressive narrative.
    The term “FORWARD” stands for anything but.

  19. gator69 says:

    Hey racist cheeky! Like I said earlier, the real racists do not know that they are.

    I really do not enjoy posting this and wish it were not true, but you asked for it.

    “High Numbers of Black on White Crime Here are some more shocking statistics: More than 1,600 Whites are murdered by Blacks each year. Blacks murder Whites at 18 times the rate Whites murder Blacks. About 1 million Whites were murdered, robbed, assaulted, or raped by Blacks in 1992. In the last 30 years, 170 million violent and nonviolent crimes were committed by Blacks against Whites in the U.S. Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than Whites the same age. Some 90% of the victims of race crimes are Whites. Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than Whites, although they comprise only one-seventh of the White population. On a per-capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crimes than Whites. Some 27 million nonviolent crimes were committed in the U.S. in 1992 alone. 31% of the robberies involved Black offenders and White victims; only 2% involved White offenders and Black victims. 1.3 million of the 6.6 million violent crimes committed in the U.S. each year are interracial. Between 1964 and 1994, more than 45,000 people were killed in interracial murders in the U.S., compared to 58,000 Americans killed in Vietnam and 38,000 killed in Korea. The above stats were collected by an Australian reporter, Neil Sheehan, who dug out half-concealed U.S. crime figures for an article in the Sydney Morning Herald (May 2, The contents of his article, he commented, could not possibly be published or discussed in the U.S. mainstream media.”

    My ancestors were slaves in Florida. Over a million Europeans were enslaved by North Africans. Get over it. Clean up your own home before you complain about mine.

  20. anna says:

    You have another son so watch him an teach him good not let him believed that you can get rich by hurting other people an the most important don’t tell lies

  21. We then have this stranger attacking the neighborhood watch person to the point he is forced to shoot the stranger in self defense.

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