October Gun Purchases Vs. Obamacare Purchases

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32 Responses to October Gun Purchases Vs. Obamacare Purchases

  1. Gamecock says:

    You are stretching reality, Steve. One can’t “buy Obamacare.” One could buy private insurance through the Obamacare created “exchanges,” if the damn thing worked. There is nothing stopping the insurance buyer from picking up the phone and calling insurance companies or agents directly, bypassing exchanges. Purchases through exchanges, which are surely exaggerated, do not include purchases independent of the exchanges. They could number millions; it’s not being reported.

    Rand Paul said there is only one insurance company left in Kentucky that will insure him.

    “In researching the Obamacare exchanges in Kentucky, I learned that I now had a choice between just two insurance companies (previously I had over 30 choices). One of those companies would not insure me out-of-state. Considering how often I’m in Washington, D.C., this posed as problematic.”

    You hardly need an exchange if there are only one or two companies you can deal with, anyway.

    • Mike D says:

      Not exactly true. If all the website were doing is connecting people with the insurance company, it’d be working fine. But what it is doing is trying to figure out how much taxpayer money it can throw at someone, if any. That’s not just private insurance, but private insurance partially or fully paid for by the taxpayer.

      But I can see them counting as any new purchase as an Obamacare win regardless of where it originates. Every renewal will soon become a new Obamacare policy as well.

      • Gamecock says:

        “Every renewal will soon become a new Obamacare policy as well.”

        No.

      • Gamecock says:

        You are right about the subsidy, but that won’t make it a government/Obamacare policy. It will still be with a private insurer.

        • Mike D says:

          Very twisted logic there. The policies must have specific features because of this law or they can not be sold at all, but because they are from a private insurer, you’re saying they’re not Obamacare policies.

        • Gamecock says:

          Nothing twisted about it. The government is not in the insurance business. The fascists have declared that private company policies must contain certain things, but that doesn’t make them government policies. Not any more than the fascist requirement that Shell put 10% ethanol in their gasoline would make it government gas.

          Insurance companies, having received the government mandates, have raised their prices to cover the new requirements. Outlandish requirements like pre-existing conditions. The Dems assured them they’d be fine, as millions of young, healthy people would be signing up, and their low loss rate would cover the cost of all the new crap. Insurance companies may have even liked Obamacare, as they expected many new customers.

          Millions of young, healthy people are not signing up. Guess what . . . premiums will not just double . . . they will quadruple within two years. The Obamacare scheme is not going to work . . . or . . . Obama will say, “We let the capitalists try to run health care, but they failed. It’s time for the government to take over and fix this.” This is what he has wanted from the git go. People losing their policies . . . prices going up . . . it’s working just like he wanted it to.

        • Mike D says:

          What’s medicaid then? Which I had forgotten earlier. Obamcare made that easier to qualify for as well.

        • Gamecock says:

          Okay, fine, Mike. Yes, one could sign up for Medicaid, a government policy, on the exchange. Indeed, some reports claim Medicaid signup is 10X private insurance signup.

          Still, signing up for Medicaid is not “buying Obamacare.”

        • Ben says:

          RE: Gamecock – “Not any more than the fascist requirement that Shell put 10% ethanol in their gasoline would make it government gas.”

          If I am also required to purchase ethanol-ed Shell gas, even if I don’t own a car, and don’t want to buy the gas, don’t need the gas, then yes, it is government gas.

        • Ben says:

          Add to that list
          …and if there is an IRS penalty for not buying gas…

        • Gamecock says:

          More fun facts: it really isn’t a subsidy. One can qualify for tax credits, to be received when you file your taxes the next year. So that $400 a month extra will come out of your pocket, and your pocket alone, for a year before you get your credit.

          So poor you never filed taxes before? Well, you better learn how.

          http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/05/us-usa-healthcare-subsidies-idUSBRE9A405920131105

  2. Fred from Canuckistan says:

    Four legs green.

    Two legs bad.

  3. A Conscious Citizen says:

    Another example of the further militarization of this nation’s proto-fascistic far-right. Why abide by democratically (sorta, not that this oligarchical representative system at all resembles a truly democratic government) passed legislation when you can stockpile dozens of military-spec weapons and thousands of rounds of ammunition? If the will of the state (and the people.. again, sorta) is not aligned with your own, and an actor form the state attempts to change that, you could just murder them! In fact, you can just shoot all the ‘obama loving faggots’ and problem solved, right? It’s no secret why the far-right is becoming a para-military force. Paranoia and hatred are rampant among the groups inhabitants and before long this nation will know a thousand ‘liberty loving patriots’ like Timothy McVeigh. I just pray to god I’m out of here when all you fucking lunatics start shooting. On the bright side, the majority of you are rotting away in old age (and are accordingly delusional) so I doubt your eyesight is up to the task of actually hitting any liberal communist whining punks. The best part about this graph is it actually represents the percentage of the population who is actively buying weapons (where you put “Obamacare”) as compared to the portion of the gun market they control. You are in the minority, and the majority of this nations people seek peace, not further violence.

    • Citizens owning guns is the deterrent to militarization.

      The vast majority of gun violence in this country is done by Democrats, mainly with illegal weapons.

      • A Conscious Citizen says:

        You mean the weapons they buy in the states with the fewest restrictions on gun sales, and then return to their urban homes? The reason guns are so accessible where restrictions are in place is because one need only step across a city or state line to find easy access to killing machines in all the red states! Further, to add a partisan connotation to the perpetration of this violence is absolute bullshit. I’d venture to say a very, very small minority of those who commit gun crimes have ever been involved in electoral politics. They are more concerned with selling the drugs that are oh-so-profitable because you decided to prohibit all legal ways of obtaining them, than they are with the Democrats or Republicans. However, as we know, Jesus hates marijuana so it will always be criminalized, keeping in place the current system which provides extreme profit to those who sell the drugs on the black market, instigating massive gang violence.

        • No, I mean that many Democrats are psychotic.

        • Justa Joe says:

          “…partisan connotation to the perpetration of this violence is absolute bullshit.’

          convenient for you but DEAD wrong

          In Chicago successful street gang members often graduate to be local alderman or at least very influential parts of the Democrat machine.

          You don’t know if convicts and criminals vote or not In your urban areas. You cannot merely assert that they do not. Urban areas with all of the voter fraud vote at rates in excess of the actual registered voter lists. Your Donk friends like Holder also stand in the way of any attempt to crack down on voter fraud. The Donks encourage any scum bag to vote for them and you know it.

          Also just because you do not vote does not mean that you are non-partisan.

          Also whenever there is civil violence in the USA it is the Democrat constituents starting riots in urban areas or left wing protesters getting out of hand. Your Prez is a follower of a lkeft wing radical that tried to blow up a police station or somesuch.

    • Gamecock says:

      “Another example of the further militarization of this nation’s proto-fascistic far-right.”

      You are ill informed. Fascism is far left.

      • Justa Joe says:

        Unconscious citizen is a rat. He wants to attribute imaginary violence to so-called right wingers, but real violence that occur in 97% Democrat controlled areas he wants to ignore because the perps he believes may not have been registered Democrats in good standing. Of course, he presumes that McVeigh was card carrying Republican. He also doesnt acknowledge that the Donks’ policies and goverance have had a hand in causing the urban crime in the first place.

        • A Conscious Citizen says:

          The fixation on partisan politics is the root of this blogs failure. Not everything can be attributed to one of the two dominant political parties, especially considering the extremely low rate of citizen involvement in American electoral politics. Even more, to try and claim that all civil unrest is caused by ‘lefties’ is fallacious. Remember the hard hat riots? How about all the KKK demonstrations? Don’t forget your bigoted roots. To continue, peaceful civil disobedience, admittedly used more frequently by the more progressive left, is in the majority of cases a positive occurrence. As much as you would have loved to club all the ‘lefties’ marching during the Civil Rights Movement, it is because of them that little racist legislation remains enacted today. The same can be said of women’s suffrage, the rights of the laborer, etc… If the right had it their way this country would still be segregated (maybe slavery would even be legal), the Palmer raids would continue as every progressive would be labelled a commie and expelled, and the corporatocracy would hold even more power over the government, while not being taxed at all themselves. Surely their profits, too, would be larger, as I’m sure all legislation passed to protect the rights of the laborer (the child, the mother, the handicapped) would be repealed, allowing for 14 hour work days at a meager wage, just high enough to keep the workers coming in fed for another day of work.

        • Gamecock says:

          “If the right had it their way this country would still be segregated”

          Sir, it was “the right” that ended segregation. Johnson couldn’t get many Democrats to vote for his Civil Rights Act. It was Republican support that got it through Congress.

          And, correct me if I’m wrong, it was a Republican who ended slavery.

          Democratic Party was the party of the Klan.

          You are a con, Concious Citizen. Revising history to suit your needs.

          BTW: “The fixation on partisan politics is the root of this blogs failure.”

          If it’s a failure, why are you here? Why are you commenting? That it is a failure is more revisionism.

        • A Conscious Citizen says:

          Don’t pretend politics in this country are consistent. The Democrats of yesterday are today’s GOP. Party lines are constantly changing, which is why I’m not going to attribute anything to a marginal party. What matters are the constituents, that is, the members of these parties, and their alignment (Left or Right). Yes, you are absolutely correct about the position of the Democratic party during slavery and segregation alike. However, the position of that party during this era was far right! The GOP originated as a progressive left wing party, and at this time the South was blue! Actually, almost every state that was blue during this period of bigotry is red today, and vice versa. I am not revising history, as you are by attempting to characterize the political parties as the same today as they were centuries ago. I stand by my point. As for your point: “it was “the right” that ended segregation. Johnson couldn’t get many Democrats to vote for his Civil Rights Act. It was Republican support that got it through Congress.” This is absolutely incorrect. The republicans of this era were not “the right” and it was not the Right that ended slavery. Don’t obscure the truth with ambiguous party labeling.

        • Gamecock says:

          Thank you for taking your meds and providing rational comment.

        • Justa Joe says:

          The abolitionalists of yesteryear would be considered “right wing religious fundamentalist” today. Who is Unconscious trying to kid?

          Newsflash: Unconscious, go to Cook County Correctional on 3015 N California Ave in Chicago and take your straw poll. You’ll find that the inmates are not dis-interested politically neutral souls that you claim. You’ll find that they’re 97% Democrats, love Obama, and hate Pubs. Heck, they sound just like you.

      • A Conscious Citizen says:

        “Fascism is far left.” Clearly Reagan era education has done wonders for your understanding of political theory. If that were the case, then why during the Spanish Civil War were the Anarcho-Syndicalists, Socialists, and Communists (traditional leftists) in coalition against the Fascists and supporters of the Monarchy? Why, then, does the Fascist Golden Dawn party not align with the massive Collectivist political force in Greece? And the Contras? Should they have not formed alliance with the left-wing Sandanistas? I can go on for hours. I must again remind a reader of this blog the origin of the terms “Left” and “Right”: That is, from the arrangement of the French General Assembly. On the Left were seated the average working man and intellectual, inspired by the new Populous ideas spawned by the period of Enlightenment. On the Right, however, sat those who supported the old regime — that is, the one of Monarchy, Absolutism, and unwaivering state and church control. Remember where you sit.

        • Gamecock says:

          “On the Right, however, sat those who supported the old regime — that is, the one of Monarchy, Absolutism, and unwaivering state and church control. Remember where you sit.”

          If you wish to call us who value the Constitution “the Right,” go ahead.

        • Justa Joe says:

          That’s pretty dumb. By that logic in the battle between the Crips and the Bloods one of those groups would have to represent law enforcement since at least one is an acknowledged criminal gang.

  4. David A says:

    “I’d venture to say a very, very small minority of those who commit gun crimes have ever been involved in electoral politics.”

    Then why do 97& of them have phones from Obama?

    • A Conscious Citizen says:

      First and foremost, they don’t. And secondly, even were that the case it makes no contradiction to my statement. To receive government aid is in no way a form of involvement in electoral politics. Further, if you could please pinpoint the executive order passed by the President that gives out free phones I’d be delighted. To characterize any legislation you don’t agree with as being authored and passed by the Executive is a common strategy used to ignore the fact that there was a majority in the Senate, House, or both, which allowed this legislation to be implemented.

  5. gator69 says:

    Just to set the record straight…

    “The Democrat Race Lie”

    “This whopper deserves all the attention it can get. Again, it shows the ignorance and contempt of the electorate liberals depend on.

    In 2010, Democrats gave their website a facelift and whitewash. Prior to 2010, the following is what readers got when they clicked on the Democrats.org “History” button….

    “Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws, and every law that protects workers. Most recently, Democrats stood together to reauthorize the Voting Rights Act.
    On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight. We support vigorous enforcement of existing laws, and remain committed to protecting fundamental civil rights in America.”

    This is the kind of BS spewed by Democrats on a daily basis, and unfortunately the media and other so-called watchdogs are so apparently ignorant of American history, Democrats continue to LIE through their teeth to their constituents, and via academia, to our kids. Despite the truth being out there for years, it’s probably not going to explode until some big shot news anchor gives us an “explosive expose” bringing us all those facts first, so he/she can proudly receive a Pulitzer…

    While I have only scratched the surface of civil rights history, here’s an except from yet another list of historical bullet points that dispute Democrat claims of civil rights support. As you read through it, remember, Democrats claim they “are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws”…

    October 13, 1858
    During Lincoln-Douglas debates, U.S. Senator Stephen Douglas (D-IL) states: “I do not regard the Negro as my equal, and positively deny that he is my brother, or any kin to me whatever”; Douglas became Democratic Party’s 1860 presidential nominee

    April 16, 1862
    President Lincoln signs bill abolishing slavery in District of Columbia; in Congress, 99% of Republicans vote yes, 83% of Democrats vote no

    July 17, 1862
    Over unanimous Democrat opposition, Republican Congress passes Confiscation Act stating that slaves of the Confederacy “shall be forever free”

    January 31, 1865
    13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. House with unanimous Republican support, intense Democrat opposition

    April 8, 1865
    13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. Senate with 100% Republican support, 63% Democrat opposition

    November 22, 1865
    Republicans denounce Democrat legislature of Mississippi for enacting “black codes,” which institutionalized racial discrimination

    February 5, 1866
    U.S. Rep. Thaddeus Stevens (R-PA) introduces legislation, successfully opposed by Democrat President Andrew Johnson, to implement “40 acres and a mule” relief by distributing land to former slaves

    April 9, 1866
    Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Johnson’s veto; Civil Rights Act of 1866, conferring rights of citizenship on African-Americans, becomes law

    May 10, 1866
    U.S. House passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the laws to all citizens; 100% of Democrats vote no

    June 8, 1866
    U.S. Senate passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the law to all citizens; 94% of Republicans vote yes and 100% of Democrats vote no

    January 8, 1867
    Republicans override Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of law granting voting rights to African-Americans in D.C.

    July 19, 1867
    Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of legislation protecting voting rights of African-Americans

    March 30, 1868
    Republicans begin impeachment trial of Democrat President Andrew Johnson, who declared: “This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government of white men”

    September 12, 1868
    Civil rights activist Tunis Campbell and 24 other African-Americans in Georgia Senate, every one a Republican, expelled by Democrat majority; would later be reinstated by Republican Congress

    October 7, 1868
    Republicans denounce Democratic Party’s national campaign theme: “This is a white man’s country: Let white men rule”

    October 22, 1868
    While campaigning for re-election, Republican U.S. Rep. James Hinds (R-AR) is assassinated by Democrat terrorists who organized as the Ku Klux Klan

    December 10, 1869
    Republican Gov. John Campbell of Wyoming Territory signs FIRST-in-nation law granting women right to vote and to hold public office

    February 3, 1870
    After passing House with 98% Republican support and 97% Democrat opposition, Republicans’ 15th Amendment is ratified, granting vote to all Americans regardless of race

    May 31, 1870
    President U.S. Grant signs Republicans’ Enforcement Act, providing stiff penalties for depriving any American’s civil rights

    June 22, 1870
    Republican Congress creates U.S. Department of Justice, to safeguard the civil rights of African-Americans against Democrats in the South

    September 6, 1870
    Women vote in Wyoming, in FIRST election after women’s suffrage signed into law by Republican Gov. John Campbell

    February 28, 1871
    Republican Congress passes Enforcement Act providing federal protection for African-American voters

    April 20, 1871
    Republican Congress enacts the Ku Klux Klan Act, outlawing Democratic Party-affiliated terrorist groups which oppressed African-Americans

    October 10, 1871
    Following warnings by Philadelphia Democrats against black voting, African-American Republican civil rights activist Octavius Catto murdered by Democratic Party operative; his military funeral was attended by thousands

    October 18, 1871
    After violence against Republicans in South Carolina, President Ulysses Grant deploys U.S. troops to combat Democrat terrorists who formed the Ku Klux Klan

    November 18, 1872
    Susan B. Anthony arrested for voting, after boasting to Elizabeth Cady Stanton that she voted for “the Republican ticket, straight”

    January 17, 1874
    Armed Democrats seize Texas state government, ending Republican efforts to racially integrate government

    September 14, 1874
    Democrat white supremacists seize Louisiana statehouse in attempt to overthrow racially-integrated administration of Republican Governor William Kellogg; 27 killed

    March 1, 1875
    Civil Rights Act of 1875, guaranteeing access to public accommodations without regard to race, signed by Republican President U.S. Grant; passed with 92% Republican support over 100% Democrat opposition

    January 10, 1878
    U.S. Senator Aaron Sargent (R-CA) introduces Susan B. Anthony amendment for women’s suffrage; Democrat-controlled Senate defeated it 4 times before election of Republican House and Senate guaranteed its approval in 1919. Republicans foil Democratic efforts to keep women in the kitchen, where they belong

    February 8, 1894
    Democrat Congress and Democrat President Grover Cleveland join to repeal Republicans’ Enforcement Act, which had enabled African-Americans to vote

    January 15, 1901
    Republican Booker T. Washington protests Alabama Democratic Party’s refusal to permit voting by African-Americans

    May 29, 1902
    Virginia Democrats implement new state constitution, condemned by Republicans as illegal, reducing African-American voter registration by 86%

    February 12, 1909
    On 100th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln’s birth, African-American Republicans and women’s suffragists Ida Wells and Mary Terrell co-found the NAACP

    May 21, 1919
    Republican House passes constitutional amendment granting women the vote with 85% of Republicans in favor, but only 54% of Democrats; in Senate, 80% of Republicans would vote yes, but almost half of Democrats no

    August 18, 1920
    Republican-authored 19th Amendment, giving women the vote, becomes part of Constitution; 26 of the 36 states to ratify had Republican-controlled legislatures

    January 26, 1922
    House passes bill authored by U.S. Rep. Leonidas Dyer (R-MO) making lynching a federal crime; Senate Democrats block it with filibuster.

    June 2, 1924
    Republican President Calvin Coolidge signs bill passed by Republican Congress granting U.S. citizenship to all Native Americans

    October 3, 1924
    Republicans denounce three-time Democrat presidential nominee William Jennings Bryan for defending the Ku Klux Klan at 1924 Democratic National Convention

    June 12, 1929
    First Lady Lou Hoover invites wife of U.S. Rep. Oscar De Priest (R-IL), an African-American, to tea at the White House, sparking protests by Democrats across the country

    August 17, 1937
    Republicans organize opposition to former Ku Klux Klansman and Democrat U.S. Senator Hugo Black, appointed to U.S. Supreme Court by FDR; his Klan background was hidden until after confirmation

    June 24, 1940
    Republican Party platform calls for integration of the armed forces; for the balance of his terms in office, FDR refuses to order it

    August 8, 1945
    Republicans condemn Harry Truman’s surprise use of the atomic bomb in Japan. The whining and criticism goes on for years. It begins two days after the Hiroshima bombing, when former Republican President Herbert Hoover writes to a friend that “The use of the atomic bomb, with its indiscriminate killing of women and children, revolts my soul.”

    September 30, 1953
    Earl Warren, California’s three-term Republican Governor and 1948 Republican vice presidential nominee, nominated to be Chief Justice; wrote landmark decision in Brown v. Board of Education

    November 25, 1955
    Eisenhower administration bans racial segregation of interstate bus travel

    March 12, 1956
    Ninety-seven Democrats in Congress condemn Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education, and pledge to continue segregation

    June 5, 1956
    Republican federal judge Frank Johnson rules in favor of Rosa Parks in decision striking down “blacks in the back of the bus” law

    November 6, 1956
    African-American civil rights leaders Martin Luther King and Ralph Abernathy vote for Republican Dwight Eisenhower for President

    September 9, 1957
    President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republican Party’s 1957 Civil Rights Act

    September 24, 1957
    Sparking criticism from Democrats such as Senators John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, President Dwight Eisenhower deploys the 82nd Airborne Division to Little Rock, AR to force Democrat Governor Orval Faubus to integrate public schools

    May 6, 1960
    President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republicans’ Civil Rights Act of 1960, overcoming 125-hour, around-the-clock filibuster by 18 Senate Democrats

    May 2, 1963
    Republicans condemn Democrat sheriff of Birmingham, AL for arresting over 2,000 African-American schoolchildren marching for their civil rights

    September 29, 1963
    Gov. George Wallace (D-AL) defies order by U.S. District Judge Frank Johnson, appointed by President Dwight Eisenhower, to integrate Tuskegee High School

    June 9, 1964
    Republicans condemn 14-hour filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act by U.S. Senator and former Ku Klux Klansman Robert Byrd (D-WV), who still serves in the Senate

    June 10, 1964
    Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) criticizes Democrat filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act, calls on Democrats to stop opposing racial equality. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was introduced and approved by a staggering majority of Republicans in the Senate. The Act was opposed by most southern Democrat senators, several of whom were proud segregationists—one of them being Al Gore Sr. Democrat President Lyndon B. Johnson relied on Illinois Senator Everett Dirksen, the Republican leader from Illinois, to get the Act passed.

    August 4, 1965
    Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) overcomes Democrat attempts to block 1965 Voting Rights Act; 94% of Senate Republicans vote for landmark civil right legislation, while 27% of Democrats oppose. Voting Rights Act of 1965, abolishing literacy tests and other measures devised by Democrats to prevent African-Americans from voting, signed into law; higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats vote in favor

    February 19, 1976
    President Gerald Ford formally rescinds President Franklin Roosevelt’s notorious Executive Order authorizing internment of over 120,000 Japanese-Americans during WWII

    September 15, 1981
    President Ronald Reagan establishes the White House Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities, to increase African-American participation in federal education programs

    June 29, 1982
    President Ronald Reagan signs 25-year extension of 1965 Voting Rights Act

    August 10, 1988
    President Ronald Reagan signs Civil Liberties Act of 1988, compensating Japanese-Americans for deprivation of civil rights and property during World War II internment ordered by FDR

    November 21, 1991
    President George H. W. Bush signs Civil Rights Act of 1991 to strengthen federal civil rights legislation

    August 20, 1996
    Bill authored by U.S. Rep. Susan Molinari (R-NY) to prohibit racial discrimination in adoptions, part of Republicans’ Contract With America, becomes law
    And let’s not forget the words of liberal icon Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood…
    We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population….

    So the next time any Democrat claims they’ve been supportive of civil rights in America (and been so all along), ask them to explain their past. “We’ve grown” is not gonna cut it, considering they continue to lie about their past to this day, and only someone lacking in common sense would believe two distinct political parties could juxtaposition their stances on civil rights seemingly overnight.

    And I’m tired of the recitation that Southern Democrats became racist Republicans and took those tendencies with them. Even today, it never takes long for a Democrat to play the race card purely for political advantage.”

    I am a Libertarian, and do not support either major party, but I so tire of leftists lies that confuse the debate that is so very needed.

  6. gator69 says:

    And let’s not forget…

    “In 1863 a Democrat shot and killedAbraham Lincoln, President of the United States.

    In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who, later died from the wound.

    In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.

    In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.

    In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded President RonaldReagan.

    In 1984 James Huberty, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonaldsrestaurant.

    In 1986 Patrick Sherril, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.

    In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.

    In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Lubys cafeteria.

    In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.

    In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.

    In 2001 a left-wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the United States.

    In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.

    In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung – Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.

    In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared LeeLoughner shot Rep. GabrielleGiffords and killed 6 others.

    In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.

    In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.

    In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza shot and killed 26 people in a school.

    One could go on, but you get the point, even if the media does not. Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns. No NRA member, or Tea Party member, or Republican conservatives were involved.”

    • Shazaam says:

      Clearly Steve is in danger for merely speaking truth to “Democrats who believe”.

      Not only do they seem to come unglued when confronted with facts, but a fair number number of them decide to settle the issue by eliminating the opposition….

      I suppose the “Nobel Peace Prize” president kinda sets the tone with his talent for offing folks with drones, and nailing the rescue workers with the “double taps”……

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