PIOMAS Says That Arctic Ice Is Thinner Than Last Year

You can’t make this stuff up. PIOMAS volume divided by UIUC ice area shows that Arctic sea ice was thinner this year on September 30 than it was on the same date last year.

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This despite the large increase in thick multi-year ice, and the very cold summer.

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6 Responses to PIOMAS Says That Arctic Ice Is Thinner Than Last Year

  1. This is an example of what NOT to do with statistics. Last year had low ice by area and this year had a huge increase by area, wouldn’t all that new ice be thin? It obviously means the average thickness would be low and give a false notion that “sea ice is getting thinner.”

    It’s like saying, humans had a baby boom in the 1950’s so the average height of humans was very low in the 50’s, which proves the theory that people are getting shorter due to increased CO2 in the air.

    • There has been a large increase in the amount of thick multi-year ice since last year. Would thick ice be considered thin?

      • Stewart Pid says:

        Steven I too was curious … they don’t just make up these numbers (or do they) and so are they torturing the data to yield a thinner number using the, what, 60% increase in ice extent earlier this fall. Just curious and figured someone on here knows the answer with my having to dig all over the internet to satisfy my curiosity.
        Real fun with figures stuff and reminds me of my dad telling me that figures don’t lie but liars figure!!
        Colder than hell in the middle of the US this AM (by GLO-BULL warming standards) and the sub freezing temps extend way south and are headed further south and east when I looked at forecasts last night.

      • This is an example of the tyrany of the mean. Average adult height went up in the 50’s and the number of adults went up in the 50’s. But add 50 million toddlers to the mix and the average human height is 3 foot 8.

        Try to explain to a moron that life expectancy has more to do with infant mortality rate than anything else.

  2. The Iconoclast says:

    17°F right now in Kansas City. Not sure people are really going to buy the warming-causes-cooling meme when they’re freezing their tuchuses off.

    Yeah yeah it’s weather not climate but it’s a lot harder to tapdance away current conditions than to blame a relatively unremarkable typhoon on AGW.

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