1978 NOAA Paper Showed Temperatures Falling While CO2 Was Rising

Hansen says that CO2 warming overwhelms natural variability. He might have been holding the paper upside down.

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16 Responses to 1978 NOAA Paper Showed Temperatures Falling While CO2 Was Rising

  1. Wow, check out that polar amplification.

  2. Phil Jones says:

    Upside-down… !!!

    Great sense of humor on here… Hansen is a total hypocrite… Liar of the first order.

  3. John says:

    Those hacked climate emails are like something right out of “The Screwtape Letters”. “My dear Wormwood…..

  4. The dCO2/dT is remarkable. I got the same thing during the 1998 El Nino. Mine was 8.3ppm/yr/°C change (the correlation slope). Yes, temperature changes drive that huge a response in the atmospheric CO2 level. This is why a small amount of warming taken over a long time can actually have a very large impact on CO2 levels (and recovery out of the LIA may explain a very large outgassing of CO2 from the oceans). A huge impact on dCO2 with tropical temperature changes is very obvious in the article’s charts. It’s tough to deseasonalize that well to reveal the detail, so the authors did a very nice job. You’ll see that mine is a little more choppy, but mine retains monthly data, not annual.


  5. Password Protected says:

    The similarity to religion continues to strike after all these years.

  6. QV says:

    IPCC AR4 “Commitment” scenario suggests that global temperatures are no higher than they would have been had CO2 had not increased since 2000.

    That scenario is the only one which has so far been correct, a fact which should be pointed out to all warmists.

  7. Andy DC says:

    They had to put the scam on hold during the period 1977-1979, which were by far the 3 coldest consecutive winters in US History. Likewise during the 1980’s, when the orange juice industry moved about 70 miles south due to repeated devastating freezes. But finally during the 1990’s the scam moved forward, because for a few years, it did warm. But even that stopped after 1998.

  8. From the next page (769) in the AMETSOC paper: “There has been a clear tendency for the rate of increase of CO2 at Mauna Loa and the South Pole to be augmented at the time of the temperature maxima associated with this oscillation.”

    Translation: CO2 concentration (and/or emission?) goes up when temperature goes up, not the other way around… right?

    Which is what Michael D. Smith said above – “A huge impact on dCO2 with tropical temperature changes is very obvious in the article’s charts” – right? (dCO2 meaning delta CO2 meaning change in CO2)

  9. RealOldOne2 says:

    Exactly what I pointed out Monday in my comment on ‘Motherload V’ that said: “Here are a couple other gems from the Angell etal 1978 paper: … Figure 11 is a good one too, as it shows a steady increase in CO2 but a decrease in surface temperature. (p.768)” http://bit.ly/1oecfCd

  10. kramer says:

    Just clicked on the link and got the following message:

    Sat, 01 Mar 14 15:45:57 -0800

    We are currently performing maintenance. Please return soon.

    for a period of 16 hours beginning Saturday March 1 at 8:00 PST (Saturday March 01 at 16:00 UTC)


    American Meteorological Society
    45 Beacon Street Boston, MA 02108-3693
    Phone: 617-227-2425 Fax: 617-742-8718

    I wonder if they are scrubbing the paper from their site? I’ll check in a few days…

  11. algistd says:

    Something to think about.

    In Lies We Trust

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    Psychopaths Rule Our Entire World – Politicians and Bankers are all Psychopaths

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  12. QV says:

    I don’t think it’s lies, just massive confirmation bias.

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