During The Non-Existent MWP, There Were No Glaciers In Europe



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13 Responses to During The Non-Existent MWP, There Were No Glaciers In Europe

  1. omanuel says:

    Thank you, Steven, for your efforts to confront government propaganda with scientific facts.

    Unfortunately, mainstream scientists betrayed the public at the end of the Second World War by accepting public funds in exchange for support of false models of the cores of stars and atoms:

    Click to access Chapter_2.pdf

    Mainstream scientists could still help restore confidence in science and constitutional limits on government by publicly addressing nine pages of precise experimental data on pp. 19-27 of my biography that falsify the very foundation of post-1945 consensus models of stars and nuclei.

    All scientists are invited to discuss openly the precise experimental data on pages 19-27.

    With kind regards,
    – Oliver K. Manuel
    Former NASA Principal
    Investigator for Apollo

  2. Andy Oz says:

    Australia has invented a “laser” to destroy junk in space.
    Now if it can also be used to destroy junk science, then I believe we are onto something.

  3. Robert of Ottawa says:

    Andy in Oz, isn’t that the role of the Abbott Laser?

    Manuel, I agree that government funded scientists will produce results governments want; but the iron sun is not relevant to this debate.

    • Brian H says:

      He’s a thread bomber.

    • omanuel says:


      The iron sun and super-conductivity may cause solar eruptions and flares.

      Prior to 1946, an iron-rich interior of the Sun was assumed by mainstream astronomers and astrophysicists.

      They all changed their minds without discussion or debate in 1946.

      Fred Hoyle explained this on pp. 153-154 of his autobiography, “Home Is Where the Wind Blows.”

      For info on super-conductivity in the Sun, see

      “Super-fluidity in the solar interior:
      Implications for solar eruptions and climate,” Journal of Fusion Energy 21, 193-198 (2002). http://www.springerlink.com/content/r2352635vv166363/

  4. Andy Oz says:

    Only two weeks of sunshine left at the south pole.
    Shadows are getting very long.

    • lance says:

      rotten shadows though…. 🙂 Winter if finally leaving Alberta…finally a plus temps weekend…and lots of puddles…still lots of snow though…

      • Gail Combs says:

        I wish winter would leave North Carolina. It was below freezing this morning and 37 °F now at 9:42 AM – BRRrrrrr.

  5. Hell_is_like_newark says:

    No glaciers at all? That seems a bit of a stretch. If that were the case, that Stone Age mummy discovered in the ice would have been exposed and deteriorated away; long before modern times.

    • Send Al to the Pole says:

      Yes, the Iceman. I agree, It seems unlikely they were completely gone. But I understand we find trees emerging from beneath glaciers, and I’m assuming those grew early in this interglacial. Perhaps ~5000 years prior?


    • ducdorleans says:

      @ Hell_is_like_newark …
      ẗhe stone age mummy, Otzi, was not “stone age” but more recent copper age (+/- 3300 years BC), and was not really discovered in or on some glacier, but at the very edge of …
      given a certain MWP, at least 2 time zones play in Otzi’s case …
      1. that very MWP
      2. some time that Otzi was killed, and before he was either deteriorated away, or eaten by some scavengers, was frozen solid to be recently discovered …
      I suppose glaciers, due to their mass, are very lagging temperature indicators … see e.g. the length of the “Glacier Blanc” since +/- Napoleon in http://www.ecrins-parcnational.fr/telechargements/doc_download/47-le-cahier-glaciers-2005.html
      I also doubt there were “no glaciers” during the MWP, but who really knows ?

    • rw says:

      According to H. H. Lamb most experts at the time he was writing were of the opinion that the present glaciers in Europe had been formed after the last Ice Age. Since the last Ice Age ended more than 10,000 years ago, there was plenty of time for these glaciers to melt away and then reform and enclose that mummy.

  6. Rachele says:

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