Spectacular Hubris At NCDC

The Great Lakes are blowing away all records for springtime ice coverage, yet NOAA is claiming that many years were colder in the Great Lakes region. Either the freezing point of water has changed, or NCDC is committing fraud.

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17 Responses to Spectacular Hubris At NCDC

  1. gator69 says:

    It’s all rotten ice, and none will survive the Summer minimum.

  2. slimething says:

    I live in Michigan. If NCDC is saying this isn’t one of if not the coldest winters the past century, they are liars and frauds.

    • stewart pid says:

      I vote for the liars and frauds title for the NCDC slime sucking pigs from hell!!

    • omanuel says:


      Here’s the rest of the story:

      FEAR of nuclear annihilation is the reason frightened world leaders took totalitarian control of mankind in 1945 and led the world by deception for sixty-eight years (2014 – 1946 = 68 yrs).

      Sixty-eight years ago a dying writer of science fiction named George Orwell left London to move to the Scottish Isle of Jura to start writing “Nineteen Eighty-Four.”


    • Eric Simpson says:

      they are liars and frauds

      No IFs about it:
      “[Scientists] are making up their facts to fit their conclusions. They’ve already caught them doing this.” – Rand Paul, Kentucky
      “It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.” -Paul Watson, Co-Founder of Greenpeace
      “Unless we announce disasters no one will listen.” -Sir John Houghton, ex ipcc chair
      “We have to offer up scary scenarios… each of us has to decide the right balance between being effective and being honest.” -Stephen Schneider, lead ipcc author, 1989
      “We’ve got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing.” -leftist Senator Tim Wirth, 1993
      “The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.” -Daniel Botkin, ex Chair of Environmental Studies, UCSB
      “I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline.” -Phil Jones, U of East Anglia
      “I’d like the world to warm up quicker.” -Phil Jones

  3. cg says:

    I live in one of the Great Lakes states. I’m having a “Fire-Sale” on my 6 foot snow drifts.

  4. D. Self says:

    I am in SE Michigan, lived here 48 years and this was one of the most brutal winters I have experienced. Felt like the late 70’s again. 3″ more inches of snow and we break the all time snowiest winter from 1880.

  5. Andy DC says:

    We need Reggie’s blowtorch to get the ice levels back to something reasonable!

  6. Shazaam says:

    If anything, the lakes freezing point should be a miniscule fraction lower in temperature since the 1930s….

    Given that the salinity levels should be some small amount higher due to the tons of road salt runoff. Should a be small, but measurable increase. Wonder who would have water analysis records like that?

  7. B.C. says:

    This reminds me of a line from an Olde Thyme song that probably 97% of today’s kids have never heard.. “The sun so hot, I froze to death, Suzanna don’t you cry!”. I’ve been in constant contact with a friend in the U.P. all winter and he’s ready to strangle every single Glow Bull Wormist who may mistakenly stumble through the snow and into his grasp, then use their lifeless corpse to burn for fireplace fuel, after this brutal winter. Nth-warmest my ass.

  8. omanuel says:

    ResearchGate is right now exposing the deep roots of the Climategate scandal, in the presence of many mainstream scientists.

    I will try to find and post a link to the site.

  9. Bob Knows says:

    NOAA no longer publishes data. NOAA only publishes lies and cow manure.

  10. Karl says:

    In the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, it was the coldest meteorological winter at Ironwood where records go back 113 years.

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