Demand Civility

Lots of people around here in Maryland have “Choose Civility” bumper stickers.

I was listening to NPR a few months ago, and they had a black American woman discussing her trip to Paris. She said she was surprised that people in France got angry at her for trying to cut in line at the move theater, because she could always get away with it in the US. Her point was that white Americans are afraid to criticize black people.

That unique American madness is what causes 70% of Democrats to continue supporting a black man who is destroying their children’s future. Choosing civility is fine, and needs to be associated with expectations of civility from everyone else. Without those expectations, the country is doomed to insanity.

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54 Responses to Demand Civility

  1. Tel says:

    Choose Mutual Civility.

  2. Gail Combs says:

    If you unintentionally offend a Black these days you will either be screamed at or they will go to someone and complain you are a “RACIST!” This last year I lost not one but two long term gigs because I didn’t get on my knees and beg for forgiveness when a black suddenly accused me of racism. (I didn’t let their kids get away with uncivil and dangerous behavior or GASP actually had the gall to called them black.)

    Unfortunately all you get is “We don’t want you” no explanation and no day in court.

    After the Zimmerman fiasco where the US Justice Department sent agitators to Florida to whip up sentiment against a “White” who shot a black in self-defense, the Black Community now figures they have a free pass and can yell Racist when every they do not get red carpet treatment.

    Unfortunately Obummer’s whipping up racism has set back race relations 50 years and the simmering resentment within whites who have gotten shafted just makes matters worse. Of course this is just what a Community Organizer wants. Riots and Unrest.

  3. Anto says:

    “That unique American madness is what causes 70% of Democrats to continue supporting a black man who is destroying their children’s future.”

    Actually, I disagree. Obama could be green with purple polka-dots and the leftists would still support him, even if it started putting people in concentration camps and gassing them. Leftists are just like that. MSNBC and CNN would probably be extolling the virtues of the communal showers and quality of the gas.

    • Yep, Progressives don’t think he’s Progressive enough, outspoken enough about it…

    • DEEBEE says:

      Nah, cannot see this sort of adulation for Bill Clinton. The fact that BHO is black causes mini orgasms for the libs, that they are so good for having voted a black man in, even though they do not care for him anymore. I experience this on a daily basis from the cowered people of pallor

  4. Jason Calley says:

    An armed society is a polite society — but not because the average person would shoot another average person. That would not happen. An armed society is a polite society because a small percentage of armed citizens would shoot the small percentage of rude and thuggish citizens.

    In today’s society the rude and thuggish know that they can get away with almost anything at no real risk to themselves, so rude and thuggish behavior prospers. Add even a small chance of such people being immediately (and perhaps even permanently) punished for their actions, and such actions drop tremendously.

    • emsnews says:

      My great grandmas lived in the Wild Wild West. Both became Temperance Union organizers and their husbands (one was a cavalry officer) disarmed any cowboys who came into town. These fine ladies also made the sidewalks in a number of places with their Temperance Union stamps on them.

      NONE of them carried any guns and they all greatly desired the disarming of the ruffians.

      Further: one great granny killed a number of people who thought she was cooking beer, she was cooking soap which was very strong lye back then, to wash shirts and they all died so my great granddaddy joked, ‘She killed more Indians than I.’

  5. Gail Combs says:

    Let’s do some connect the dots.

    1. Pascal Lamy has made it clear the goal for the last eight decades has been the destruction of national sovereignty and the substitution of “Global Governance” similar to that in the EU.

    2. Whether 9/11 was ‘Seizing an Opportunity’ or an ‘Inside Job’ does not matter, what matters is the Patriot Act, DHS, TSA and the War on Terror. I show how bogus the War on Terror is when you look at the actual actions of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano She switched from protecting the borders of the USA to targeting “Homegrown Terrorists” (Thats us folks)

    3. We have a Community Organizer in the White House who has spent the last six years agitating the Black Community. Socialists have spent the last 1/2 century convincing them they DESERVE being handed a living for free. Unfortunately most of them have lapped it up not knowing they are being set-up as sacrificial goats.

    4. Now add in the Militarization of the US police plus the removal of Posse Comitatus plus Homeland Security’s Massive Ammo buys (enough for a twenty year hot war in the USA.) Also there is the Canada-U.S. pact [that] allows cross-border military activity.

    5. Despite _Jim’s valiant Trolling it is pretty obvious that the US electric grid especially on either side of the Appalachians is going to go down. (Obummer and his handlers are hoping it crashes after a Republician is in the White House.)

    5. Deprive the Inner City Black Communities of jobs (already done) and then electricity during peak summer or peak winter and you light a well primed bomb that is going to make the Rodney King Riots look like a day in the park.

    6. During National Civil Unrest the UN has for years ‘Stepped-in’ with international ‘Peace keeping Forces’ and then set-up up a ‘New Government’ AND you have US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg saying To Egypt: Don’t Use US Constitution As A Model.

    So GOOD BYE to all those irritating little Constitutional Rights that Obummer’s Handlers desperately want GONE! GOOD BYE to that clause in the US Constitution that says US Law trumps a Treaty. link Hello Global Governance by unelected, unaccountable UN bureaucrats.

    Not a pretty picture.

    • tom0mason says:

      +10!

    • _Jim says:

      This may work to help alleviate fears that the New England area is not being considered regarding sufficient power generation resources going forward:

      ISO New England releases annual 10-year plan for region’s power grid

      The 2012 Regional System Plan (RSP12), a comprehensive report that identifies transmission upgrades and resource additions needed to maintain a reliable supply of electricity in New England through 2021, was approved by the board of directors of ISO New England Inc. (ISO), the operator of the regional power system and wholesale electricity markets.

      ISO New England has issued the RSP each year since it assumed power system planning responsibility in 2000. …

      The most recent plan(s) may be found here; the full plan for 2013 (in .docx format, summary in .pdf format) can be found on this page:

      2013 Plan – http://www.iso-ne.com/trans/rsp/index.html

      And the 2014 Overview – New England 2014 Regional System Plan (RSP14) Load, Energy and Capacity Resource Overview

      .

      In consideration of a wider area, we have this report from PJM ISO (the ISO for Pennsylvania, New Jersey et al) plus the NY ISO folks:
      2013 Northeastern Coordinated System Plan
      ISO New England, New York ISO and PJM
      March 26, 2014

      .

      And this might go some distance addressing fears that no one is paying attention to natural gas supplies and pipeline expansion in the northeast:
      – – – – –
      http://www.northeastgas.org/pipeline_expansion.php
      NGA ISSUE BRIEF: Pipeline Expansion Projects, July 2014

      SUMMARY
      Numerous projects are in development to expand the Northeast pipeline system,
      to transport supplies from the productive Marcellus shale gas basin in Appalachia

      – – – – – – –

      In summary, I would take the ‘missives’ from the general press with a grain of salt and give a little more credence to the folks in the engineering and planning sides of the organizations who wrote the documents linked above. Probably the biggest effect going forward, regarding electrical power generation, will be steadily increasing costs as one common fuel’s favorability is reduced in favor of others (notably nat gas).

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      • mjc says:

        The problem is…that it isn’t done yet. It’s being worked on, but still ‘under construction’, so if things are a repeat of last winter, this winter, it’s not going to help.

      • Gail Combs says:

        _Jim it is the words “are in development” that reall bothers me.

        SUMMARY
        Numerous projects are in development to expand the Northeast pipeline system, to transport supplies from the productive Marcellus shale gas basin in Appalachia

        It is bad enough when you are dealing with normal manufacturing. “Products take about twice as long and cost twice as much as people think they will, no matter how well you think you’ve planned.” I have been through too many new product launches not to agree with that statement.

        Now throw idiotic liberal protesters into the mix. I lived in Boston when the Seabrook Nuclear Plant was being build and had friends who were engineers on the project. It was a nightmare.

        Ludington Daily News March 2, 1990

        The Seabrook nuclear plant overcame two decades of protests, legal challenges, ballooning costs and the financial ruin of its chief investor to capture the ultimate prize: a licence to operate….

        Conceived in 1968, it was proposed in 1972 as a twin-reactor plant costing less than %1 billion. Construction delays and cost increases forced cancellation of one reactor in the mid 1980s and lead owner Public Service Co. of New Hampshire into bankruptcy reorganization in 1988…

        Massachusetts Attorney General James Shannon and two environmental groups plan to ask for a stay of the license next week in the Federal Appeals Court in Washington….

        That same bunch of protesters plus others are primed and ready for the gas pipelines and anything that is not wind or solar. I lived in Boston and in southern NH. Those protesters are even more aggressive then they were 20, 30, 40 years ago and they won that battle against nuclear energy so that will make them all the more tenacious.

        Heck I have anti-fracking signs, big ones (4ft X 8 ft sheets of plywood) all over my little back country road and this is conservative redneck territory not the flaming communist People’s Republic of Taxechusetts, “Home of the foremost Marxist Scholars in the world” as a Communist friend of my would proudly say.

        You are in Texas so maybe you haven’t had to deal with an all liberal area before. Heck that same Communist friend had to register as a Republican so there was a “Republican” poll worker at his voting site!

      • _Jim says:

        You ppl aren’t reading the documents, only the short incomplete ‘headlines’. One would take some of these objections more seriously if a little time was taken in reading the actual linked documents.

        Or, we can have a ‘teach-in’ via a live-video-stream and we can cover these subjects.

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        • Gail Combs says:

          _Jim you still do not get it.

          It does not matter WHAT plans are made, if protesters stop those plans cold.
          If the physical structures are not up and ready to go they just plain do not count when EPA shuts down the older plants.

          In one report (ISO) you have phrases like ” Values include existing generation and expected generation capacity additions” and

          Resources in the Interconnection Queue
          • Characteristics of ISO-NE’s Interconnection Queue as of April 1, 2014
          56 generation projects totaling 6,915 MW
          • 11 dual fuel (gas & oil) projects ~ 2,497 MW
          • 26 wind projects ~ 2,110 MW
          – 24 are on-shore at 1,619 MW
          – 2 are off-shore at 491 MW
          • 6 natural gas-fired projects ~ 1,841MW
          • 3 biomass projects ~ 138 MW
          • 5 hydro-electric projects ~ 62 MW
          • 1 oil-fired project ~ 245 MW
          • 3 solar projects ~ 16 MW

          • MW values show based on project nameplate ratings

          Are those “Projects” completed or planned? On other pages in the same report the wording used is“Generating Unit Assets” and not projects.

          In another report you have:

          Overview of the Results of
          System and Strategic Planning Studies

          ….The region’s heavy dependence on natural-gas-fired generation to meet its electricity needs has resulted in recent operating problems similar to those experienced during past events.13 Adverse interactions between electric power generators and the natural gas system have occurred, and could occur any time of the year, because the natural gas system has been subject to interruptions that reduce the flow of natural gas to generating units requiring fuel. In addition, the scheduling requirements of the natural gas system for providing fuel to generators can be in conflict with the electric power sector’s need for flexible operation. Adding to this issue is that the regional dependence on natural-gas-fired generation to provide both electric energy and capacity is expected to grow with the likely retirement of older coal and oil units and their replacement, in whole or in part, with generators in the queue that burn natural gas.

          Upgrades to the natural gas system infrastructure, some of which have been proposed, would provide some improvements to the deliverability of natural gas. However, additional solutions are required to address fuel-adequacy issues.….

          Environmental and economic incentives provided by governmental policies are encouraging the development of low-emitting, renewable resources, such as wind and solar. These resources could diversify the fuel supply; however, the reliable large-scale integration of intermittent resources would place increased regulation and reserve requirements on the system, presenting challenges for system operations and planning. Hydroelectric units have traditionally been well suited to provide regulation and reserves, but they may lose some of their ability to operate flexibly as part of their relicensing requirements. Additionally, while photovoltaic resources will not likely require the development of new transmission, significant wind development will, as shown by the wind integration study of the Strategic Transmission Analysis. This analysis is developing conceptual additions to the regional transmission system that would enable onshore wind resources to serve load reliably. Elective upgrades and merchant transmission facilities under consideration have the potential to improve access to renewable resources in remote areas of the region and in neighboring areas. In addition, smart grid technologies are being developed to improve the electric power system’s performance and operating flexibility.

          … In general, the critical load level identified in all transmission system needs assessments can be used to identify the amount of resources that would relieve transmission system constraints. However, when resources fail to develop in the required amounts and in the needed locations, the proper timing of transmission projects is critical to meet regional reliability requirements and to mitigate risks associated with unit performance and gas dependency.….

          …..However, when resources fail to develop in the required amounts and in the needed locations, the proper timing of transmission projects is critical to meet regional reliability requirements and to mitigate risks associated with unit performance and gas dependency.….

          That does not sound like a very reliable system to me especially when they drop the “smart Grid” bomb into the mix.

          Lots of if the sunshines and the wind blows and Canada has spare electricity to send us and the gas supply and wood supply is steady….

          Also it is not New England I see as a problem but the mid-Appalachian area where most of the coal plant shut downs are going to happen. Ohio especially. Major shutdowns and major start-ups with renewables like Wind and Solar in the mix just do not give me the warm fuzzies. I have seen to many new projects in chemical plants fall fat on their faces to consider engineers 100% reliable. Mix tanks blowing up, Extruders blowing up, walls being blown down, a major Chem engineering glitch in a brand new plant making the entire plant useless, fires…

          Flanagan another chemist, said “Murphy was an optimist.” after one of the disasters and I am forced to agree.

        • _Jim says:

          Gail, I hate to break it to you, but, Engineering works in the real world. On the subject of building physical plant, it works along a timeline as detailed out on a GANTT chart (or equivalent) according to the schedule laid out by engineering. Allowances are made for meeting various regulatory requirements, including state and federal environmental regs as well as local approvals e.g. those given by city councils.

          If you notice, I also posted an example from a pipeline/gas transport company some examples of projects they have actively working; you have to realize, the ISO’s (Independent System Operators e.g. PJM etc) don’t actually let contracts or supervise the work on a pipeline (or any other physical asset in the system) but perform the coordination function between the various ‘elements’ in the system.

          To get onto actually looking at progress on any individual project or activity, you have to drill down into the details and find out which pipeline companies are involved, and then inquire (or search) for status or progress on that project. One can find quite a bit of detail by searching on company name, since local city councils and the like place meetings with the pipeline companies and town council agendas; this gives tangible indication they are actively pursuing these projects.

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      • _Jim says:

        Many new projects, like the one below, are in the works. Note particularly the areas the map indicates customers will be served:

        The “Access South” Project

        Also note approximately 15 other projects (note the accompanying maps for each found at the corresponding links):

        http://www.spectraenergy.com/Operations/New-Projects-and-Our-Process/New-Projects-in-US/

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        • Gail Combs says:

          _Jim you are the one who is living in La-La Land. SHIT HAPPENS, I have seen it.

          Here are the last couple of the incidents I had connections to that I found on the internet. The earlier ones would not be as easily accessible.

          This happened at a “Sister plant” that I had visited the day before it blew – THE FIRST TIME, this is the second incident at the same plant about a decade later. The first “Release” blew hot stryene monomer/polymer mix across the river. Novacor had just purchased the plant from Monsanto.
          EPCRA & RPM Case and Chemical Accident Highlights

          General Duty Clause – Callahan Co. & NOVA Chemical

          In FY06, EPA brought two General Duty Clause enforcement cases against two chemical companies in Massachusetts. In April 2006, EPA settled one of its first General Duty Clause cases against Callahan Co. of Walpole, Mass. Among other things, the complaint alleged that Callahan, a bulk chemical delivery company, had failed to employ adequate safeguards to prevent two releases of acetone — one of about 1,300 gallons and another of 200 gallons. Acetone is a highly flammable substance. The second release caused damage to an adjacent wetland when the spilled acetone washed into the wetland after a rain storm. Under the April 2006 settlement, Callahan agreed to pay a penalty of $40,000 and undertake two SEPs worth $317,000. One SEP requires the company to make substantial storm water management improvements, and the other requires the company to install environmental safeguards to its above-ground chemical tank farm.

          The second General Duty Clause case involved a January 7, 2004 release of 4,500 pounds of extremely flammable styrene from the NOVA Chemical Inc. plant in Indian Orchard, Mass. The release occurred when errors were made during the startup of the facility’s polystyrene process. A subsequent EPA investigation revealed that the polystyrene process was not safely designed. The General Duty Clause count was settled in May 2006 with a penalty of $13,800 and a $14,000 SEP requiring the donation of emergency response equipment to the fire department. Nova spent $1.5 million in FY06 to improve the safety of its polystyrene process and will undertake further safety improvements in FY07.

          This happened at a company one week after I quit because I had put out two fires – literally. This was a case of deliberate negligence on the part of the plant manager who delayed maintenance in order to make the bottom line look good. (From a conversation with him in a bar when he was plastered)
          3 workers burned in J-Von accident
          Blockquote>

          LEOMINSTER, MASS. – An industrial accident burned three J-Von L.P. employees working at the firm’s Leominster thermoplastics compounding plant.

          No fire or explosion occurred in the June 24 incident so the Leominster Fire Department turned the investigation over to federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration officials, according to Lt. Robert Sidlow of the city’s fire department.

          Sidlow said the workers were changing a screen on an extruder when built-up pressure caused them to be sprayed with molten plastic, causing burns to their upper bodies. One was listed in critical condition for the first night but all three last week were recovering at home.

          J-Von spokeswoman Peggy Lipka said the worker with the worst injuries, contrary to procedure, was not wearing a safety mask. She said it was the first such accident at J-Von since current owners of the private company bought it four years ago. The company has about 40 nonunionized employees.

          Lipka said production was not affected by the accident.

          This was one of my companies custoners: Chemical Plant Explosion in Middleton, MA An explosion at the Bostik Chemical Plant, in Middleton damaged 2 buildings and injured 4. The plant manufactures adhesives. The cause of the explosion is still unknown.

          Dec 1, 2006, CSB Continues Investigation of Massachusetts Chemical Plant Explosion: Statement of Lead Investigator John Vorderbrueggen

          …After conferring with the CSB blast modeling experts, Mr. Vorderbrueggen said, “This was a powerful explosion, even compared to other significant chemical accidents. More than 30 windows were broken at a high school one half-mile from the explosion origin. Our initial assessment shows that under slightly different circumstances — for example if people had been outdoors instead of asleep in their homes — it is likely that public fatalities could have occurred.”

          The CSB is an independent federal agency charged with investigating industrial chemical accidents. The agency’s board members are appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate. CSB investigations look into all aspects of chemical accidents, including physical causes such as equipment failure as well as inadequacies in safety regulations, industry standards, and management systems….

        • Gail Combs says:

          The other point you are totally missing is that as the number of “elements” goes up the more complecated a plan, the chances of Murphy’s law increases. If we were talking shutting down a few plants and replacing them – no problem. But that is not the case. We are talking shuttering ~10% of the US capacity (could be more with the latest EPA stunt) mostly concentrated in the mid-Appalachian region.

          The chances for a misstep just went up astronomically.

          Now add in the fact that some think Putin is behind the Anti-fracking campaign NATO Chief: Putin Behind Anti-Fracking Campaigns (USA)

          Then toss in the FBIs comments on Earth First and Monkey-wrenching, not to mention PETA’s sucess in getting their ‘Spies’ into various industries. Congressional Testimony by James F. Jarboe, Domestic Terrorism Section Chief, Counterterrorism Division, FBI…
          “The Threat of Eco-Terrorism”

          Then toss in the fact a guide to Monkey Wrenching techniques is up on the internet:
          Ecodefense: A Field Guide to Monkeywrenching

          This book is dedicated to:
          Edward Abbey 1927–1989
          John Zaelit (Mr. Goodwrench) 1954–1986
          Bill Turk (The Mad Engineer) 1953–1992

          Wilderness needs no defense, only more defenders

          Forward!
          Chapter 1: Strategic Monkeywrenching
          Chapter 2: The Future of Monkeywrenching

          ….How Seismic Survey Crews Work
          Monkeywrenching Seismic Operations

          …Plugging Waste Discharge Pipes
          Choosing Targets
          Plugging A Pipe

          …Hydro Plant Flood Gates

          …Water Developments

          Chapter 4: Roads and Tire
          Chapter 5: Vehicles and Heavy Equipment
          Disabling Motor Vehicles of All Kinds
          Heavy Equipment

          ….Gaining Access

          …Other Sabotage Methods

          …Burning Machinery

          ….Igniting Machinery

          …..Aircraft

          ….Undercover Tactics

          ….Ramming Ships

          Well, you get the idea. These people mean business and they are highly dangerous. You can as Kent Clizbe if they are directed by or funded by Russia and maybe he might tell you.

          Oh, and I forgot to mention I had PETA target me and my business associates. They continued to create “Accidents” until they finally got the HUGE national headliner they wanted. They hit my little two person outfit at least seven times that I know of before they got “Success” (Think Three Mile Island)

          So take your head out of your… and joining the real world where THEY, the eco-freaks, really are out to get us and they have the weapons to do it.

        • Gail Combs says:

          OH, and one of the reasons I think _Jim is a disinfo type is this Obama wants the Electric Reliability Corporation to stop assessing electric reliability Posted on May 22, 2012

          Since he commented on that essay he is well aware of the fact the IPCC is not the only “Political Football” and that makes all the reports he is citing rather suspect.

          Given that he has defended both the Federal Reserve, Fractional Reserve Banking AND Agenda 21 on WUWT when I made comments (Backed up with my usual long list of links) and he even went as far as to call me crazy, that is the only explanation I can think of.

        • cdquarles says:

          Thank you Gail. I now understand your point of view better.

          “The more they complicate the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain”, Scotty Star Trek, The Movie.

        • _Jim says:

          One wonders what you are ‘on about’ sometimes Gail. There is an objectifiable, real world out there Gail that sane people work with everyday. Just because you are not aware of actual, objectifiable projects in the real world does not mean they do not exist.

          Also, one is given pause to wonder how much exposure you have had to real ‘capital’ projects, and the planning involved in same, which is certainly not on a par with the simple ordering of ‘glassware’ from a catalog for the lab.

          The nature of ‘projects’ being discussed here require the involvement of personnel across many disciplines, including both legal (lawyers for the ‘permitting’ and personnel to contact land-owners in order to secure right-of-way for the pipelines being built) and technical (engineering and surveyors, construction and bridge specialists).

          A couple of interesting resources outside the usual ‘conspiratorial’ vein you might find interesting can be found below. They add more credence to what I have been on to for the last couple of days, to wit, progress is being made in the planning and construction of additional nat gas pipeline transport ‘plant’ in the northeast.

          This page is titled “Pre-Filing For All Natural Gas Projects”. It is interesting to note the number of projects shown for the last several years in contrast to the years previous:
          http://www.ferc.gov/industries/gas/indus-act/pre-filing.asp

          From the document below, note the due consideration expressed for the generation needs going forward; Gail, please note, this is the form in which planning takes place in the real world:

          http://www.iso-ne.com/trans/rsp/2013/2013_rsp.pdf

          – – – – – – –
          Needs for Capacity and Operating Reserves

          RSP13 quantifies the system needs for capacity and operating reserves and the amounts procured through the Forward Capacity Market and the locational Forward Reserve Market (FRM).

          Capacity

          The minimum amount of capacity the region needs to meet resource adequacy requirements is called the Installed Capacity Requirement (ICR). The region’s net ICR is expected to grow from 31,552 MW in 2013 to a representative value of 35,300 MW by 2022.

          This represents a growth of over 400 MW per year (416 MW on average), which is equivalent to 1.25% per year. The current development of generation, demand, and import capacity resources in the region is expected to provide the capacity needed to meet the ICR. Because the ICR calculation accounts for the load-relieving actions of ISO Operating Procedure No. 4 (OP 4), Action during a Capacity Deficiency, meeting the ICR level could necessitate the use of specific OP 4 actions.27 Several factors affect the frequency and extent of OP 4 actions, including the amount of resources procured to meet capacity needs, their availability, actual system loads, and other system conditions. Study results show that the need for load and capacity relief by OP 4 actions will be up to 3,300 MW during extremely hot and humid summer peak-load conditions over the planning horizon.

          Resources are projected to be sufficient for the 2016/2017 capacity commitment period.29 The region would have a surplus of 2,842 MW in 2018/2019, which would decrease to 2,042 MW in 2022/2023, accounting for the load and energy-efficiency forecasts and assuming all resources with capacity supply obligations for FCA #7 remain in service and only known retirements are considered.
          – – – – – – –

          ALL that may look like greek to you, but in the mind of the system planning engineers they are the ‘foundational’ documents by which future expansion of the generation capacity in the system will be made.

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        • _Jim says:

          You say your concerns are now the Ohio and Appalachian areas?

          That requires a shift to the combined MISO and PJM (Midwest SIO and Pensylvannia, NJ et al ISO) service areas.

          http://www.miso-pjm.com/

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        • _Jim says:

          A side note, Gail.

          I notice a lot of ‘stuff’ being slung up against the wall, in hopes you will find something that will stick either with (or to?) me, or with the readers, but I would appreciate it if you would focus on the issues you raised earlier regarding national energy infrastructure and supply, particularly the electric infrastructure.

          Your ‘usual’ habit of coat-racking (a Steve McIntyre term) was very much in vogue above in several places. One cannot hope to present a rational response in return or up against veritable hair-on-fire style which contained more few facts gleaned from documents referenced or linked to earlier.

          One gets the idea that you will move the goal posts once again in your continued ‘discussion’ on this matter, like Lucy moving the football on Linus; these are ‘tactics’, BTW, well noted by the author of the piece ‘Debating with a Bircher’ which I have brought to your attention before.

          Fortunately, there appear to be ‘adults’ taking a long, hard look at energy supply in the northeast, notwithstanding continued assertions to the contrary (and without much basis in fact I would add.)

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  6. Toppleton Geardom says:

    I was going to the movies with a friend of mine from Yale who is black also. And there was a long line. And we were like, let’s jump the line. These white people, they’re going to be scared of us. We’ll just go and jump the line. We’ll get to the front of the line. So, of course, you know, we walked up to the front of the line, like, yeah, you want to try me? I’m black. That usually works in New York.

    These people were ready to rip our hair out. And they were white. I couldn’t believe it. And they were like, in French, what are you doing? The line starts back there. You can’t just walk to the front of the line. They were, like, ready to kick our butts. I was shocked. I’m like, these are white people, and they’re not scared of us?

    That’s when I realized I wasn’t in Kansas anymore. And I liked it. I mean, of course, it was kind of humiliating, because you know, we’re supposed to be the intimidating, scary ones. And then all these French bitches in high heels were threatening us. And they were in our faces. And it made me realize that the whole black-white game just doesn’t work outside of the United States.

    Because white people aren’t afraid of you here. And at the same time, they don’t hate you, because that sort of goes together. So I’ll take it. I’ll wait on line. Now I don’t dare jump lines. So that opened my eyes.

    This American Life, 165:
    Americans In Paris
    Transcript
    Originally aired 07.28.2000
    http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/165/transcripthttp://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/165/transcript

  7. Ken says:

    “Let’s just jump in line, because we don’t want to wait and we can get away with it.” That is not the attitude that cultivates a civil society. That is a sad commentary on that deluded girl’s upbringing and also probably the ethic of her social circle, whatever it might be.

  8. B says:

    I have an odd trait I don’t control very well. I treat people the way they treat me. A woman such as this one would get some very nasty comments if not a physical effort from me to block her from cutting in front of me.

    It doesn’t matter their race, people don’t like this from me. I’ve been called all sorts of things, been told I am the problem because I stood up against this sort of thing. They are used to this american ‘just let them do it’ type culture. We are trained from an early age that it is not worth standing up to people on small things. ‘just let them do it’, ‘just let it go’, ‘it’s not worth it’. Avoid the confrontation. This society demonizes people who don’t give in. It’s ‘road rage’, ‘racism’, ‘rude’, whatever works best for the particulars. So americans generally stand down.

    The result is this backwards culture, backwards courtesy. I use driving and bicycling as analogies for people’s general behavior. You’re waiting at a red signal to turn left. The guy in the lane next to you, which goes straight, has decided he really needs to turn left. There are people behind you. If you don’t let this guy in, you’re ‘rude’. But what about the people who won’t make the light when you accommodate this guy who can’t be bothered to go straight then turn around or go around the block in a manner that doesn’t demand action by others?

    Politically this backwards behavior shows up in everything from welfare to warfare to monetary policy. It’s do a good thing for these people but ignore the negative effect on these other people. Some people figure out how they can always cut to the front of the line and get away with it. We are socially manipulated into this as people. Even foreign governments have learned to play the american people using this conditioning. Our treasure is looted for their benefit.

    But back to my ‘flaw’, I’m like those French people the woman on the radio program encountered. I won’t let you cut the line. Some self-entitled people get angry when I don’t let them do it. They are used to getting away with this sort of behavior. Race doesn’t matter. I’ve seen all races do it. The woman on the program only thinks she gets away with it because of her skin color. It no doubt helps in some situations, but others can do similar things and most americans won’t say a word.

    And while it’s mostly small things that ‘aren’t worth it’ small things add up. When people succeed doing small things they do bigger things. This may be the root cause of many of the major problems in this country for all I know.

    • Gail Combs says:

      Unfortunately if you are a small business owner you have to remember that the jerk is a customer and the Customer is Always Right… Unless he is committing a dangerous act so he can sue you.

  9. Stephen Fox says:

    Good post, Steve, but I have to disagree that it’s unique to America. Here in the UK we’re managing quite a bit of this kind of crap. Obviously, we’re not as good at it as youse guys, but we’re coming along. EG, everyone thinks FGM (female genital mutilation) is evil, but nobody dares upset the Pakistani community by actually stopping them from doing it.
    Of course, people may simply be scared of starring in a ‘having your head cut off live on Youtube’ film, which is even worse than FGM.

    • cdquarles says:

      That’s why the Common Man needs his guns. To protect himself from enemies, foreign, domestic and his government when said government fails to protect the citizen from enemies, foreign and domestic or usurps powers not granted or imposes tyranny.

    • Jason Calley says:

      “everyone thinks FGM (female genital mutilation) is evil, but nobody dares upset the Pakistani community by actually stopping them from doing it.”

      In many ways, our culture has become way too civilized — although “civilized” is not really the right word. Maybe “cowardly” is better. Of course, if FGM is wrong, (and it is), then it should be obvious that MGM (male genital mutilation) is also wrong. Saying that, however, upsets Jews and Muslims both.

      • Stephen Fox says:

        I agree with the first bit, but not the second Jason.
        I’m not going to go into the grim details of FGM here, but from what I’ve heard, it’s a different order of nastiness than circumcision for men. No question.

        • Gail Combs says:

          Yes, especially when done by primitive means (sharpened shells and the wound smeared with dung.)

        • Jason Calley says:

          I would absolutely agree that the FGM is worse — but I do not think that excuses MGM. Analogously, cutting off a hand is much worse than cutting off a pinky finger — but why cut either one?

          A Rabbi friend of mine once explained that for adult male converts to Judaism, he draws a ceremonial drop of blood from the genitals, similar to taking a blood sample with a finger prick (no pun intended — please do not go there!). “The important thing is that there be a symbolic giving of blood.” Personally, I think that would be an improvement for infants as well. Having been around babies that had just been circumcised, I can tell you, that yes, it hurts them and they do suffer from the procedure. I suspect that the Reform Judaism could go with the more symbolic version, but I doubt that either Orthodox Jews nor the vast bulk of Muslims would ever agree.

          Still, what I have just said is my opinion and does not really change anything. The question that we as a society need to come to grips with is, “At what point do religious customs imposed on children become crimes?” While I think that circumcision is not warranted, I do not think that I would be willing to arrest parents who chose to have their son mutilated in that way. As for the FGM, especially the more crude versions… that is hideous, and any parents who would do such a thing to their child has no place in a modern society.

      • There Is No Substitute for Victory. says:

        Jason says: “everyone thinks FGM (female genital mutilation) is evil, but nobody dares upset the Pakistani community by actually stopping them from doing it.”
        In many ways, our culture has become… too civilized — …. “civilized” is not really the right word…. “cowardly” is better… if FGM is wrong…. then it should be obvious that MGM (male genital mutilation) is also wrong. Saying that, however, upsets Jews and Muslims both.

        Jason: It should not upset your gentle and peaceful Mohammedan friends because they already practice an extreme form of Male Genital Mutilation called castration on young Black male Africans captured during tribal raids and warfare.

        The Mohammedan Religion is surely a racist religion in that the Arab word for “a slave” and a non-Mohammedan “Black African” is the same exact word, “Abd” or if the speaker’s intent is to offend “Abeed”. The Janjaweed warriors from North Sudan who recently were raping and murdering their way though the Dinka Tribe in South Sudan castrated all their young male captives because they brought a better price in Khartoum or Medina than intact little boys fetched.

        Besides, if they were already castrated then the buyer didn’t have to worry about loosing his investment in you if he castrated you himself, because all the little boys who were going to die had already succumbed to infection or blood poisoning before they were sold.

        You people are pathetic, you only know what Obama and the PC press are willing for you to know.

        • Gail Combs says:

          I am well aware of the complete removal of the male organs of young African boys as practiced by the Mohammedan Religion. It is one of the reasons I could never fathom why in heck a Black would EVER want to join that horrible religion. THEY are and were the slavers of blacks.

        • Jason Calley says:

          “You people are pathetic, you only know what Obama and the PC press are willing for you to know.”

          So much for civility.

        • Gail Combs says:

          “You people are pathetic, you only know what Obama and the PC press are willing for you to know.”

          I do not think you have read many comments at this site. You really need to do a bit of research before typing a comment like that.

      • cdquarles says:

        If you’re talking about circumcision, I don’t consider that mutilation, and for practicing Jews, that’s one of the key points of Mosaic Law that they accept as the Word of God. I’m circumcised. One of my sons had it done, the other didn’t. Now if you’re talking about castration, that is mutilation.

  10. scott says:

    Diversity > Unity
    Civility > Honesty

  11. philjourdan says:

    Those that allow her to get away with it are merely racists. mostly liberal. They “think” they are doing her a favor. She just got beatch slapped by reality. They did her no favors.

  12. Jeffk says:

    Oh it’s worse with Muslims. Appeasing the Islamists the way Hitler was, allowing the problem to grow worse so the war wrecks more havoc later, is happening again. Political correctness prevents sound judgement of good vs evil, just like the 1930s appeasers. Anti-Semitic opinions and protests are esteemed and cool too. Thanks to sanitized school books erasing true histories.
    Every other ideology and religion has communes for the purists to live apart from the moderates and laity. Indians who want to keep tribal customs live that way on reservations, and don’t try to forcibly convert others to their ways. But when Islamists expect everybody to follow their pure ways or die, we excuse them for fear we’d be called “Islamophobe.”

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