Understanding Brainwashing

If you watch television, you are being brainwashed. The primary purpose of television is to convince you to give up your money, sanity, freedom and control over your life.

I was listening to a talk show the other day where they were discussing Missouri’s use of secretly armed teachers as a deterrent to school shootings. One teacher was outraged, and said that she wanted to rely on the police to protect her.

At Sandy Hook, the police took 15 minutes to arrive, and parked 1/4 mile away. I used to ride my bicycle near the police station and past the elementary school on my way to work. It took less than 10 minutes on a bicycle. CNN video that morning showed the police running into the wrong school on the other side of I-84.

A man with a gun who was spotted in the woods near the school on the day of the incident was an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town, according to the source.

Police Union Seeks Funding For Trauma Treatment | The Newtown Bee

Why would a teacher want to abdicate her ability to protect the children under her watch? If she can’t trust herself with a gun, how can she be trusted with children or driving a car? If the principal had a rifle in her office and a few hours of tactical training, the shooting never would have occurred.

Television programming teaches people to be completely irrational and give up their money and control over their life. That is what it is for.


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  1. Yes, but Television has electrolytes.

  2. Gamecock says:

    People pay no attention to police with guns.

    Big city police are not “gun” people. They struggle to pass annual qualification, which for many is the only time they shoot at all in a year. NYC used to publish an annual police report with statistics on their firearms usage. About the last time they produced it, it reported that when NYC officers fired their pistols, they hit the assailant 17% of the time. Think about it: 83% of their shots missed the bad guy COMPLETELY. Yet the public implicitly trusts NYPD officers with guns.

    As you get into more rural areas, law enforcement gets more proficient with firearms. I have talked with deputies in my county about their gun handling. They smile and tell me they compete in IDPA. A related phenomena is that the more rural you get, the less concern law enforcement has about people having guns. Perhaps big city phobia with guns is rooted in their own incompetence with guns. Anywho, television encourages us to trust police with guns, and to fear a public with guns.

    • Gamecock says:

      Check this out:


      At 1:41, you will see what appears to be a SWAT officer with a long gun walking behind the perp being escorted by two cops. He is sweeping the three with the gun. A fundamental firearms safety blunder. Being committed by a SWAT officer. On TV, for all the world to see. Yet he is trusted to have guns in public. If he worked for me, I’d fire him.

    • inMAGICn says:


      Rural or urban, I never trust any authority with guns.

      One example; a relative, who lived in our semi-rural county, had his house raided on what turned out to be a spurious charge for which he was never indicted. A variety of personal property items were seized including, of course, shooting irons. I had the job when he was out of state of picking up his property through his attorney. All the envelopes were returned, as were the firearms…except a Glock. No log entry, no tag number, nothing. It had “disappeared.”

      • Andy says:

        “Rural or urban, I never trust any authority with guns”

        Are you saying you don’t like the US armed forces then? That’s pretty shocking and un american in my view.


        • Brits are un-American by definition.

          Looking forward to the Premiership starting up again.

        • mellyrn says:

          So, “blind” trust (where you don’t know the INDIVIDUAL) is “american”?

        • DEEBEE says:

          Fine with the army, since their guns are supposed to be pointed outwards

        • inMAGICn says:

          Didn’t say “like.” I said didn’t trust. You do trust the military to defend the country, but otherwise, internally, no. All armed agencies need a strong alliance to the people they serve and oversight as they carry out their (necessary) duties.

  3. philjourdan says:

    TV in and of itself is not doing the brain washing. It depends upon what you are watching. I avoid commercial TV and of course the MSM. But as long as Brian Costas is not doing the game, I do enjoy Football (the American kind).

  4. stewart pid says:

    The teacher knows that she (like most other teachers) are only a few life experiences away from twisting off and going batshit crazy and therefore would never trust herself with a gun. Testing while driving is fine though 😉

    • inMAGICn says:

      Recently saw a group of Israeli schoolchildren being escorted on a field trip (before the latest rocket onslaught). The teacher, a very young woman, had a Galil slung over her shoulder. Apparently the Israelis are not afraid of their teachers being armed (to the teeth). But let’s face it, the teacher cited above probably IS bsc.

      • Gamecock says:

        I have never seen a magazine in one of these alleged Israeli teachers’ rifles. I’ve seen several pix, but no mags. It’s easy to trust someone with an empty rifle; it’s just a heavy stick.

        The IDF is also known for carrying 1911s in Condition 3, like that’s going to do them any good. Their rules of engagement are almost as dumb as U.S. rules.

        • Moa says:

          On a tourist visit to Masada I saw what appeared to be a ‘settler’ who had a beat up old M1 carbine. Magazine was in place. My Israeli friend indicated that the settlers often carry these (old) weapons – they have to in order to survive among the jihadis.

          Israel is a fantastic place to visit (Tel Aviv beach is lovely). You’ll get a different perspective than just looking at the ‘pix’. Plus you’ll be helping the Israeli economy and the Israeli people (who just want to live and prosper like any other normal country not surrounded by genocidal jihadi maniacs).

      • Andy says:

        Sorry but that’s a load of rubbish,

        She wasn’t even a teacher. It’s from 2012 or 2 years back so at least try and do some investigative work before spouting poppycock

        see here

        and here


        mind you, if you are brainwashed by Fox news


        Perhaps better to read what the actual people in that country think rather than Fox news?


        • Gamecock says:

          Andy says:
          August 1, 2014 at 7:48 pm

          Sorry but that’s a load of rubbish,

          She wasn’t even a teacher. It’s from 2012 or 2 years back so at least try and do some investigative work before spouting poppycock


          Since inMAGICn didn’t post the pick nor a link, your statement that “She wasn’t even a teacher” is psychotic.

        • kuhnkat says:

          Andy, and the first article you linked was from someone who has only lived in Israel for 10 years and is not associated with schools. So yes, how about linking to someone who actually knows what is going on over there.

        • DEEBEE says:

          You are a BS artist, drawing stupid conclusions and posting garbage yourself. Oh! and have you been recently fuxed by Fox, as it seems to show up in your posts.

  5. stewart pid says:

    Dang meant texting … and even tried twice to get it right … need coffee … must have coffee!

    • rah says:

      Man don’t get this truck driver started on texting and hand helds behind the wheel. From my high perch in a big truck I can pick those dangerous inconsiderate suckers out ahead of me on the interstate well before I get up to them. Course I have looked down and seen lots of other stuff too at times. Some good. Some not so good.

      And then there are the brain dead that just have to have their TVs in the car. Once on I-81 in PA in traffic moving along at a good clip I saw a woman driving with a handheld up to her ear gabbing away and gesturing with one arm. In the front passenger seat was a teenager with this lap top playing some video. In the back each front seat head rest had a TV in it and there were two little kids back there each watching their own program. I’ve been trucking OTR for the better part of a decade now and the longer I’m at it the more amazed I have become that so many people survive as long as they do.

      For Christmas I have asked for a Go-pro for a dashcam just to help protect myself legally because there sure as heck are some nuts out there.

      • Gail Combs says:

        I hope you get the dashcam.

        I heard that Fed Ex and UPS trucks especially in cities have cameras recording (with time stamp) for the back and front bumpers because they got sick and tired of drivers intentionally ramming their trucks and going for big insurance claims. In some cases the cars were never even in contact but they sued anyway to get the insurance to pay for the accident they had with the tree next to their driveway….

        • rah says:

          It goes far beyond that. My company had a tractor parked with a driver taking his mandatory 10 hr. break with his curtains drawn in the corner of a parking lot up near an intersection. A driver ran a light and was hit and smashed into parked tractor. The lawyer for the driver at fault subpenaed the QualCom records of the parked driver/tractor. Turned out the driver after having delivered and dropped his trailer was out of hours and drove 15 minutes beyond the limit to get to a place where he could park and take his break. So technically, the tractor should never have been parked there. Guess who paid through the nose?
          The reality is that on the road and off, if a big truck is involved then the trucker is guilty until proven innocent. And that is why I will get that camera.

        • Gail Combs says:

          I have my CDL but don’t use it for that very reason. Drivers are often caught between a rock and a hard place.

          …Like the dispatcher that insisted the driver take Memorial Drive in Boston (Truck trap 9ft 0inch by MIT) The Driver in exasperation (with witnesses) followed orders….

        • cdquarles says:

          I have a sad story to tell and I sympathize with the drivers for they’re like a lot of people who do good work and thus are suit material for the Slip&Fall sharks. AL 17 passes through a lot of small towns and villages between Mobile, AL and Florence, AL. One day, a rig was passing through York, AL. Unfortunately for him, the light was green for him and a child darted out into traffic. I hope they settled out of court. You don’t want to have ‘big/deep pockets’ and get sued in Sumter County, AL, especially if you get the wrong judge.

  6. Jason Calley says:

    I used to be completely against any form of gun control — but the so-called “Progressives” are slowly convincing me. I am starting to favor a total weapons ban, but only for the Progressives and other mental defectives.

    Of course any normal man, woman or responsible child could still own and bear weapons.

    • rah says:

      Not a bad idea. I mean after all the reality is that it’s the progressives and the dependents that they have helped create and sustain that are responsible for more murders with firearms in the US than Conservatives.
      Columbine school killers? Parents big time progressives.
      Jared Lee Loughner? Mass murder and shooter of Rep. Giffords – Registered democrat voter.
      James Holmes, Aurora theater mass murderer. Obama fan and democrat voter.
      Got a whole list of them.

      But that doesn’t stop the “news” from doing their very best to distort and make accuasations and assumptions without data fingering some imagined right wing nut. Examples?

      Remember the beltway “snipers”? Remember when they were still looking for them that the “profile” the “news” broadcast was to be on the lookout for a “angry white guy”?

      Remember the attempted bombing in Times Square and the mayor of NYC declaring it was probably “Home-grown, maybe a mentally deranged person or somebody with a political agenda that doesn’t like the health care bill…”
      etc, etc, etc, ad nauseum.

      • Jason Calley says:

        You are right about the beltway snipers, and even after there were a few reports to the police that the shooters might be a couple of African Americans, the police resisted changing their search parameters. Here is something odd about the main shooter, John Allen Mohammed. He was a soldier in the US Army during the first Gulf War, operation Desert Storm — but not just any soldier. He was arrested during the war for a fragging incident where he reportedly threw an incendiary grenade into a tent of mostly officers. I remember when the incident occurred and was reported on the news. (I was still watching TV back then. Not any more!) I thought, “Oooooh, he’s going to be put away for a long time!” Apparently not. Instead he served a few more years and was given an Honorable Discharge.

        A lot of stuff happens that is hard to decipher.

    • Andy says:

      Most US persons killed by firearms are previously normal man, woman or child. Or even pets.

      Also, how do you judge a responsible child rather than an irresponsible child, so they can own a .44 magnum or not?


      • Gamecock says:

        Andy says:
        August 1, 2014 at 7:54 pm

        Most US persons killed by firearms are previously normal man, woman or child. Or even pets.


        Got a link for that?

        “The only normal people are the ones you don’t know very well.” – GC

        • Andy says:

          Of course check out this


          Felony v non felony is about 30% !

          That’s why you are far more likely to get shot by your previously law abiding wife or neighbour or son or pool boy in the heat of the moment than some bloke who suddenly decides to be Charles Manson and kill you all.

          Are you saying you don’t know your family? Shame on you…..


        • philjourdan says:

          That says nothing about who was shot. And nothing about people as pets. Want to try again? And stick to the topic this time.

        • gator69 says:

          Hey Gamecock! You called his bluff, and no his link is not about firearm deaths, it is a weird hodgepodge of homicide stats that prove nothing.

          What most gun haters do not understand is that it is a demographic problem, a cultural failure.

      • Gail Combs says:

        You are correct Andy the people killed are ordinary people and they are gunned down by our militarized police.
        Militarized police overreach: “Oh, God, I thought they were going to shoot me next – Mayor after police broke down his door. I strongly suggest you read what this elected Mayor has to say.

        Why did you shoot me? I was reading a book”: The new warrior cop is out of control (The guy, a security guard reading the book, before he died)

        Cops Kill 8 Times More Americans Than Terrorists Do

        The Rise of Mexico’s Self-Defense Forces

        Number Of Officers Killed In The Line Of Duty Drops To 50-Year Low While Number Of Citizens Killed By Cops Remains Unchanged

        Seems to me the USA was better off with the Swiss type ‘all men are trained Militia’ point of view than the we have to control you socialist point of view.

        USA Homicide Rates
        [Stuff in brackets from Gun Control Timeline ]
        …In the late 1800s, Congress required (at least on paper) for fit males to be armed. All were required to have arms, ammunition and sufficient military equipment to take to the field in an emergency…. The 1903 Dick Act divided the militia into the organized and unorganized militia. The organized militia in time became the modern National Guard. A pattern of increased federal finance and control of the National Guard started with the Dick Act. The unorganized militia, the armed body of the people, “necessary to the security of a free State” received no training, no funding, and no guidance. The requirement for fit adult males to maintain weapons in a condition ready to use vanished…. [And the Homicide rate went up]
        USA Homicide Rates per 100,000
        1900 1.2
        1901 1.2 T Roosevelt
        1902 1.2
        1903 1.1 Dick Act [National Guard federalized]
        1904 1.3
        1905 2.1
        1906 3.9
        1907 4.9
        1908 4.8
        1909 4.2 Taft
        1910 4.6
        1911 5.5
        1912 5.4
        1913 6.1 Wilson
        1914 6.2
        1915 5.9
        1916 6.3
        1917 6.9
        1918 6.5
        1919 7.2 Prohibition
        1920 6.8
        1921 8.1 Harding
        1922 8
        1923 7.8 Coolidge
        1924 8.1
        1925 8.3
        1926 8.4
        1927 8.4 [Congress passes a law banning the mailing of concealable weapons]
        1928 8.6
        1929 8.4 Hoover
        1930 8.8
        1931 9.2
        1932 9
        1933 9.7 FDR – End of Prohibition [Homicide rate goes down abolish war on drugs?]
        1934 9.5 [National Firearms Act of 1934 regulating only fully automatic firearms]
        1935 8.3
        1936 8
        1937 7.6
        1938 6.8 [ Persons selling guns are required to obtain a Federal Firearms License]
        1939 6.4
        1940 6.3
        1941 6
        1942 5.9
        1943 5.1
        1944 5
        1945 5.7 Truman
        1946 6.4
        1947 6.1
        1948 5.9
        1949 5.4
        1950 5.3
        1951 4.9
        1952 5.2
        1953 4.8 Eisenhower
        1954 4.8
        1955 4.5
        1956 4.6
        1957 4.5
        1958 4.5
        1959 4.6
        1960 4.7
        1961 4.7 Kennedy
        1962 4.8
        1963 4.9 Johnson
        1964 5.1
        1965 5.5
        1966 5.9
        1967 6.8
        1968 7.3 [The Gun Control Act of 1968 – background check]
        1969 7.7 Nixon
        1970 8.3
        1971 9.1
        1972 9.4 [ Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms is created listing as part of its mission the control of illegal use and sale of firearms]
        1973 9.7
        1974 10.1 Ford
        1975 9.9
        1976 9
        1977 9.1 Carter
        1978 9.2
        1979 10
        1980 10.7
        1981 10.3 Reagan
        1982 9.6
        1983 8.6
        1984 8.4
        1985 8.4
        1986 9 [The Armed Career Criminal Act – increases penalties for possession of firearm]
        1987 8.7
        1988 9
        1989 9.3 Bush
        1990 10 [Crime Control Act of 1990 – bans manufacturing and importing semiautomatic]
        1991 10.5
        1992 10
        1993 10.1 Clinton
        1994 9.6 [ The Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act – imposes a five-day waiting period]
        1995 8.7
        1996 7.9
        1997 7.4 [The Supreme Court declares the background check requirement of the Brady Act unconstitutional]
        1998 6.3

      • DEEBEE says:

        As usual your conclusions are drawn on adding your wishes to data. Homicides data does not necessarily provide guns homicide data. But for your forgone conclusion it obviously suffices

      • philjourdan says:

        People are pets in the US? really? I guess that makes the UK so civilized where they just behead the innocent.

  7. omanuel says:

    I agree. “If you watch television,” video games, gladiator sports, pornography, reality TV or take any mind altering drugs, “you are being brainwashed.”

    If you live this way, you can be manipulated and controlled by those who control the television, drugs, etc.

  8. Gail Combs says:

    Here is an article I just stumble across that all should read:

    …..And as for the power of the propaganda in that time period, I can think of no better statement than the one made on January 25th, 2001, by the outgoing US Secretary of Agriculture, Dan Glickman. As reported by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Glickman said:

    “What I saw generically on the pro-biotech [GMO] side was the attitude that the technology was good and that it was almost immoral to say that it wasn’t good, because it was going to solve the problems of the human race and feed the hungry and clothe the naked. And there was a lot of money that had been invested in this, and if you’re against it, you’re Luddites, you’re stupid. There was rhetoric like that even here in this department [USDA]. You felt like you were almost an alien, disloyal, by trying to present an open-minded view on some of these issues being raised. So I pretty much spouted the rhetoric that everybody else around here spouted; it was written into my speeches.”

    Glickman reveals several things in these remarks: he was spineless; people at the Dept. of Agriculture were madly buying into the Monsanto cover story about feeding the world; and there had to be a significant degree of infiltration at his Agency.

    The last point is key. This wasn’t left to chance. You don’t get a vocal majority of Dept. of Agriculture personnel spouting the Monsanto propaganda merely because the fairy tale about feeding the world sounds so good. No, there are people working on the inside to promote the “social cause” and make pariahs out of dissenters.

    You need special background and training to pull that off. It isn’t an automatic walk in the park. This is professional psyop and intelligence work.

    I’ve done some investigation of various groups on both the left and the right, and I’ve seen some pros in action. They’re good. They know how to leverage ideas and slogans and ideals. They know how to defame opponents and find the right words to sink them. They know how to turn high-flying but vague words about “humanity” into moral imperatives.

    This isn’t rinky-dink stuff. To tune up bureaucrats and scientists, you have to have a background in manipulation. You have to know what you’re doing. You have to be able to build and sustain support, without giving your game away.

    Truth be told, governments are full of these pros, who will take any number of causes and turn them into what falsely sounds like good science, good government, good morality, all the while knowing that, on the far shore, sits the real prize: control.

    These psyop specialists are hired to help make overarching and planet-wide agendas come true, as populations are brought under sophisticated and pathological elites who care, for example, about feeding the world as much as a collector cares about paralyzing and pinning butterflies on a panel in a glass case…..

    And _Jim wonders why I have such grave doubts about the rhetoric spouted in reports about the “New Greener Energy” seamlessly replacing the coal plants that represent 42% of our electric generating capacity.

    Well we will all know the truth in about five years…. Unfortunately.

    • omanuel says:

      Thanks, Gail.

      I agree with you. The really great news is just this: Arrogance and ignorance are close companions. Thus, wannabe world rulers foolishly decided to hide the Creator, Destroyer and Sustainer of every atom, life and world in the Solar System !

      No window in their ego cage opens to reality.

    • _Jim says:

      Gail Combs says on August 1, 2014 at 2:50 pm

      And _Jim wonders why I have such grave doubts about the rhetoric spouted in reports about the “New Greener Energy” seamlessly replacing the coal plants that represent 42% of our electric generating capacity.

      Well we will all know the truth in about five years…. Unfortunately.

      You have seriously mis-characterized the debate, and as such run the risk of entering an early level within the idiot category. I expected much more from you, but I now have a much better understanding of your limitations. This was bound to happen (read on further as to why) sooner or later.

      As it turns out, you cannot actually reason, possess limited ability for comprehension, and cannot allow for any sort of alternate ‘view’ in your world. Furthermore, you have, unfortunately, become the ‘stereotypical conspiracy theorist’ veering more than slightly from the path of a ‘highly trained scientist’ as is often claimed. That now seems to be just a ‘thin veil’ to achieve some measure of respectability and while silencing critics. A world view consisting of only one side, Gail’s side, with Gail never being wrong is not, repeat not possible; on top of that Gail sees things as either white or black, with NO in between.

      These are short comings BTW, Gail, not positive attributes.


      • DEEBEE says:

        Sorry, _Jim, I missed the earlier episodes of your saga with Gail. You could have in your rant spent a few lines alluding to it, rather than stuff it with seemingly unsubstantiated conclusions.

  9. wyoskeptic says:

    What so many do not understand about guns is that they are a tool. There is an old saying about a craftsman being only as good as the tools he uses. The other side of that is that the best tools in the word do not make up for a poor craftsman. A tool is only as good as the person using it and how well they know how to use it.

    I agree with the old saying, “God made man, but it took Sam Colt to make them equal.” Guns do not make people better or necessarily safer, but when all around are carrying them, they do tend to make people more polite face to face.

    As for TV, I gave up on it many years ago. I had cable TV, got into an argument with the local cable co and told them to unhook me. After that, all I ever watched was what I could get from local stations over the air. In ’85 I moved to a rural area where that was not very much, about all I got was snow. By 2000, I no longer even owned a TV.

    I can’t say that I have ever missed having it. Especially once “reality” TV became such a thing. [SHUDDER].

  10. B says:

    The production of the TV show around events like ‘Sandy Hook’ turns it into a drama. The narrative becomes no more real than “CSI”. The way television news (not to mention other programs) does things to manipulate the viewers has gotten so bad now there are people who just believe it’s all fake. They see the production of the illusion and they then jump to the conclusion the entire event didn’t actually happen. That it is no more real than the Brady Bunch. But that’s a small minority, most people believe it unquestioning. The presentation we see on TV is indeed unreal, but of course it doesn’t mean an event didn’t happen. Never waste a crisis they say.

  11. Everyone should do as I do, and just watch television for the articles (make that “articles”, hint, hint–and no, I don’t mean sex, I mean entertainment, what you like; I watch movies)…

  12. GoneWithTheWind says:

    There is a problem here that is not being highlighted. Let me give you an example. I carry two pocket knives. My old dependable 3 blade rancher folding pocket knife that I have carried for 60 years and my newer gerber more scary looking single blade with a clip and one hand ability to open. My wife recently commented that she hated my knife. She has hunted she is not anti-gun and otherwise quite reasonable. Her fear is it looks scary or offensive. Most teachers are women. Most women don’t want to think about having to protect themselves. In fact if you bring up the subject in public about women protecting themselves you will undoubtedly be accused of “blaming the victim”. Women expect the police to keep them safe. Women are not comfortable around weapons (obviously there are exceptions) and even less comfortable around non-police who have weapons. Don’t expect this to change dramatically. Don’t expect women teachers to embrace the idea of arming teachers. Perhaps it should be done in spite of their view on this subject but to try to gain consensus is probably futile.

    • Gail Combs says:

      Not this woman, but then I was always a bit more independent than most women are taught to be.

      I generally carry a knife and have had swiss army knives for years and later Leatherman. I also learned to shoot, fix a tire, do a brake job….

      I had a major argument with my Junior high because I wanted to take shop instead of home ec.

      • B says:

        The problem is where the hump of the distribution curve is.
        I believe that a lot of the problems we have today came about through deliberate manipulation of women. And once they have the women the men will generally go along.

        • Gail Combs says:

          You are correct. Women were brainwashed to think they were not good in math or science. That they could not defend themselves, that they did not deserve the same pay as a man or the same opportunities….

          If you try to distinguish yourself from a doormat you were accused of being unfeminine (early 20th C) or a Feminist. (more recently)

          Then David Rockefeller realized women could be useful cheap labor and we got “Equal Rights” and the salaries of the men were halved because the wife was expected to work too.

          (I don’t have the link anymore to the David Rockefeller quote.)

    • Bob Knows says:

      Most women expect ** MEN ** to keep them safe. That means “police” because they have been taught that their partner is “a jerk” or worse. They don’t even have a husband any more. Of course, the US police DO NOT protect anyone or keep anyone safe. or That is not their job, according to SCOTUS.

    • mellyrn says:

      Time was when women in Western society were regarded as precocious children, not really full human adults. Naturally, adults protect children, and children are to be protected. Women who still carry this infantilization effect expect to be protected. And, as Gail notes, it certainly ain’t ALL of us.

  13. soulsurfer says:

    i stopped watching TV years ago. I only stream, so i get to see what I want to see; without any commercials. neither do i listen to the news. i read it myself. pick and choose. my life has improved dramatically since, and i am still aware of all the major news events. but i am in charge!!!

  14. Andy says:

    “Why would a teacher want to abdicate her ability to protect the children under her watch? If she can’t trust herself with a gun, how can she be trusted with children or driving a car? If the principal had a rifle in her office and a few hours of tactical training, the shooting never would have occurred.”

    1. She’s not trained to use a gun, she is trained to teach pupils
    2. Even people who are trained to use a gun shoot themselves or other bystanders by mistake. Go read up 10 000 police officers accidentally discharging firearms.
    3. You don’t need a principle in her office with a rifle to stop school shootings.

    As for point 3, in the UK with no principles armed we have far far less school shootings. Wonder why? It’s because the nearest person with a gun is 20 miles away rather than 200 yards……

    Such is the wonderment of statistics. Less guns mean less shootings. Can you prove otherwise? How many school shootings in the USA have you had compared to the UK in last 10 years per 100 00 population? It aint working my friends…..

    Let’s assume them principle had a gun. Would the shooting not have occurred? Is she sitting there the entire school day with binocs and the gun swinging around trying to zero in? No. She is doing her job, She is away from her office, she might even be on vacation. She might be tutoring.

    Even if she had the gun the element of surprise is what matters here, something unexpected. That is why the serial killer always has the advantage. That’s why it keeps happening in the USA because you keep giving people guns and keep giving them the advantage.

    Look at UK firearm homicides per 100 000 people. With, in general, an unarmed police force.

    You say it takes 15 minutes for the police to arrive in the USA. In the UK it might take 20 minutes and normally they are not armed. And still the number of firearm homicides is a lot less than in the USA even so.

    And do you know why?


    It’s a no brainer. But because you still love John Wayne and the romanticism of the homestead and being independent you keep getting shot to pieces whilst the rest of the world moves on.

    Feel free, one day though the worm will turn. And you will finally get into the 21st Century.

    Amen and praise the Lordy on high. Only he can hammer it into your thick 18th century 2nd amendment skulls. You are so backwards in this regard it is laughable.


    • In the UK you have soldiers being beheaded in the street next to the Prince of Wales residence in London. Fortunately, they aren’t being killed with guns.

      You civilized Europeans haven’t started a world war for a few years, Aren’t you about due?

    • Jason Calley says:

      Ahhh… the civilized Brits! How many millions of people did you murder after disarming and enslaving the Indian subcontinent? When you calculate the homicide rate of nations with strict gun control do you include Indians? Or are they not worth counting?

    • mellyrn says:

      In Britain, if someone is wounded by a gunshot but dies after, I believe, 24 hours, the death is not counted as a “gun” death. In America, if someone is wounded by a gunshot and dies at any time — years later, even — as a result of complications of that wound, it IS counted as a “gun” death.

      Hard to compare apples to apples that way.

      Meantime, here in my concealed-carry-OK community, gun violence is NOTHING compared to the gun killings of “gun-free” Chicago or DC. Why? Because here where I live, the crooks can’t tell if their intended victim is armed or not.

      Being protected by someone else is to live as a child — and it puts the burden of adulthood, of Constant Vigilance on the protector. A cop may clock out and go home, but he is never, in his heart, off duty. A cop does not call the police if someone breaks into HIS home; he is the police, so he does the job himself (if he does call, he’s calling for backup — NOT to have THEM do what’s needed). He is NEVER free of his duty.

      And that is one hell of a burden to lay on a fellow human being. Mister Andy, you’d damned well better be living to make that burden worth it, if you’re too importantly busy to see to your own protection.

    • DEEBEE says:

      Andy stop being a moron and looking at correlation as causation. Oh but that might be difficult for you since perhaps it is congenital

    • philjourdan says:

      Andy, as far as anyone knows, no one has proposed arming ALL teachers! The proposals are to hire a designated person (could be a teacher or support staff) that would have access to a gun during school hours! Idiot. And I guess you think teachers are too stupid to walk and chew gum since they can only do one thing in your mind.

      Have you even tried to figure out why 90% of all mass killings in the past 30 years have occurred in Gun Free Zones? Cowards do not seek a fair fight!

  15. Andy says:

    It is true that happened. Once in a lifetime, hardly like in the US where someone goes amok with a gun in a US barracks for the same reason. How many shootings have you had at Fort Hood now and how many people died compared to one in the UK?

    If we are going to do a comparison of US to UK spree killings Steve you are in for a hell of a beating. A beating because I don’t have a gun of course. So you will live. Just really battered

    Ok you start.

    US spree killings with firearms from 1970.

    I’ll go second with the UK list.

    Smallest list wins.


    • Chuck says:

      You will change your tune when your simmering radical muslim problem starts to boil over. You cant hide it in the back streets of the U.K forever,

      • Gail Combs says:


        One article I read mentioned that once the Muslims reach a certain percentage of the population (10%?) they then start demanding Sharia law and try to turn the country into a Muslim country.

        At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize, from 5% on they get pushy, at 10% you get increased lawlessness and it gets a lot worse from there.
        See: What Islam Isn’t

        The USA is at 1% and we are already seeing problems and the UK at 2.7% even more so.

        • mellyrn says:

          It’s OK to suggest that Muslims might be, or even are, a problem. It’s OK to criticize blacks or whites, feminists or feminine doormats, metrosexual men or macho men — you name it, someone can make a case for why they are a problem.

          I give you Voltaire: “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”

    • mjc says:

      Does Northern Ireland count?

    • Bob Knows says:

      The UK has fewer people in total than California. Comparing US totals is more equally compared to all Europe totals. Of late UK is said to have a big problem with edged weapons. Overall the death rates in the US are down significantly from 50 years ago, but worst in liberal (ghetto) cities.

    • dbstealey says:


      The number of guns in the U.S. has gone up substantially. Many more were sold when Obama was elected; many more were sold when he was re-elected. Gun makers’ stock went way up due to the sales. However, murders by gun have been declining.

      Over the past 50 years homicides by firearm have dropped about in half. Therefore, your illogical, frightened rant is crazy. You are crazy. The world is a safer, and much more polite place when the average citizen can carry a concealed weapon. Even a nitwit can understand that.

      The answer is clear: you need to move to Cuba, or to some other country that confiscates guns, and doesn’t allow citizens to possess them. You will be trading in your manhood for fictional security, but what the heck. You don’t have manhood anyway. You are the perfect slave.

      • Gail Combs says:

        If you look at the chart I posted above you can see that the # of homicides per 100,000 has gone DOWN as a result.

        When all adult males in the USA were required to be trained and armed the number was even lower.

        Want homicides to go down? Require ALL students to take ROTC for four years in high school and to qualify in marksmanship and gun-safety yearly or whatever.

        (It would also convince China and Russia to quit with the saber rattling crap.)

    • … hardly like in the US where someone goes amok with a gun in a US barracks for the same reason.

      Civilians and soldiers (except military police) on U.S. bases are disarmed—just like British subjects.

      You wanna compare your list with spree killings in U.S. gun stores?

      Being as it is that gun store clerks and their customers have guns, and human trash bent on spree killings avoids such places like the plague you’ve gotta ask yourself a question: “Do I feel lucky?”

      “Well, do ya, punk?”

    • DEEBEE says:

      Why 1970 moron and not since the beginning of gun history or some other starting point. Your idiocy keeps growing sort of like the Dragon King Arthur had to finally slay.

    • philjourdan says:

      And how many of those shootings were done by people illegally carrying guns?

      HInt: It is greater than 99%

      And what part of illegal do you not understand?

  16. Bob Knows says:

    When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Their job is to control the people through fear and violence, to rob you, and to keep corrupt politicians in power. That is why the TV moguls all love them. There are no chains more secure than your own wretched mind.

    • Gail Combs says:

      Not only that but the Supreme Court ruled the police have NO DUTY to protect citizens so you are on your own when it comes to self protection.

      (I gave all the links to the cases – plural – a couple of days ago.)

  17. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Easy answer. Arm all teachers with Tasers.

    A wannabe killer will think twice about being rendered a shivering pile on the floor in a pool of his own urine by multiple taser shots.

    Also they are manufactured in the US.

    • Gail Combs says:

      Bad Idea

      The teachers will want to use them on wise guy kids. Of course after one demonstration per school you can get rid of all the Ritalin.

  18. omanuel says:

    I had to go back to the original writings of great scientists, and their autobiographies to figure out the truth from the consensus lies.


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