Presidents Always Believe That They Are Lying For Good Reasons

Fifty years since Johnson’s big lie began the rapid downfall of America.

ScreenHunter_1911 Aug. 13 22.13

About stevengoddard

Just having fun
This entry was posted in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink.

33 Responses to Presidents Always Believe That They Are Lying For Good Reasons

  1. pesce9991 says:

    I agree that was a big lie, but not the beginning of the downfall of America.

    • Shazaam says:

      You are absolutely correct you troll you.

      In my not so humble opinion, Wilson ushered-in the downfall. And that best buddy of Stalin, Obama’s mentor, FDR cemented it.

      • gregole says:

        +1

        And bonus points for an acute understanding of modern American history.

      • Gail Combs says:

        +100

      • _Jim says:

        And I’ll second that; take a look at what’s happened with the explosion of ‘Administrative Law’ since FDR’s era … I defer to an expert on the subject for more:

        – – – – –

        Is administrative law unlawful? This provocative question has become all the more significant with the expansion of the modern administrative state. While the federal government traditionally could constrain liberty only through acts of Congress and the courts, the executive branch has increasingly come to control Americans through its own administrative rules and adjudication, thus raising disturbing questions about the effect of this sort of state power on American government and society.

        With his book Is Administrative Law Unlawful? Philip Hamburger answers this question in the affirmative, offering a revisionist account of administrative law. Rather than accepting it as a novel power necessitated by modern society, he locates its origins in the medieval and early modern English tradition of royal prerogative.

        Then he traces resistance to administrative law from the Middle Ages to the present. Medieval parliaments periodically tried to confine the Crown to governing through regular law, but the most effective response was the seventeenth-century development of English constitutional law, which concluded that the government could rule only through the law of the land and the courts, not through administrative edicts.

        Although the US Constitution pursued this conclusion even more vigorously, administrative power reemerged in the Progressive and New Deal Eras. Since then, Hamburger argues, administrative law has returned American government and society to precisely the sort of consolidated or absolute power that the US Constitution—and constitutions in general—were designed to prevent.

        With a clear yet many-layered argument that draws on history, law, and legal thought, Is Administrative Law Unlawful? reveals administrative law to be not a benign, natural outgrowth of contemporary government but a pernicious—and profoundly unlawful—return to dangerous pre-constitutional absolutism.

        – – – – –
        Book on the subject:

        http://www.amazon.com/Administrative-Law-Unlawful-Philip-Hamburger-ebook/dp/B00K8QJKRK/?_encoding=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=ur2&qid=1405300357&s=books&sr=1-1&tag=wwwviolentkicom&linkId=LTFVC7RMJ5T3FRVS

        • Gail Combs says:

          _Jim
          Thanks for bring that up. Admin Law is a major loss of rights for citizens.

          They say a picture is worth a thousand words. This photo shows just how much the BureauRats have usurped citizen rights with a nod from the Supreme Court. The small pile of papers on the top of the cabinet are the actual laws passed by Congress the rest of that huge stack are regulations with the force of law that were never voted on by our representatives. This is for one year! Oh and you are responsible for knowing and understanding every single word. Ignorance is no excuse under the law.

          Unnecessary regulations divert money and human resources away from economic growth. (Do I really need a MA state inspector to inspect and certify my horses feces before giving it to my neighbors for their compost heaps?)
          Federal regulations have lowered real GDP growth by 2% per year since 1949 and made America 72% poorer

      • cdquarles says:

        Don’t leave out Teddy “Bull Moose” Roosevelt from the Hall of Shame.

  2. kentclizbe says:

    Tony, you’ve hit upon a great incident in the annals of government influence operations against the American public.

    But that incident was more than 25 years after the Roosevelt administration allowed and encouraged the influence operations that led to the destruction of Normal America.

    Watch what the Obama regime does now with the wars that they’re fomenting.

    When was the last time you heard anything about any of the regime’s scandals in the media? Benghazi? IRS persecution of conservative groups? IRS’s destruction of evidence and obstruction of justice? Fast and Furious? And all the rest?

    A good war keeps the people’s minds off the scandals, and creates immediate support for a sitting president. A good war that the neo-conservatives are in on is a slam dunk political win.

    Classic influence operations.

    • tom0mason says:

      “Freedom is slavery” – Benghazi? Fast and Furious?
      “Ignorance is strength.” – IRS’s destruction of evidence and obstruction of justice?
      “War is peace” – Next week?

      Well thank-you George Orwell, you gave them a template, not a warning.

  3. au1corsair says:

    One of the attacks was real–and is celebrated today by Vietnam as a victory over the Imperialist United States of America. The other–evidence indicates that it was at best phantom enemies and at worst a deliberate fabrication.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident

    Yeah, it’s Wikipedia, but it’s accessible. The 2 August incident was an “act of war” but not treated as such–attacks on a nation’s naval vessel are the same as attacks that take place on that nation’s soil. But there is a gray area that is decided by force: “The Maddox, when confronted, was approaching Hòn Mê Island, three to four nautical miles (nmi) (6 to 7 km) inside the 12 nautical miles (22 km; 14 mi) limit claimed by North Vietnam. This territorial limit was unrecognized by the United States. After the skirmish President Johnson ordered the Maddox and Turner Joy to stage daylight runs into North Vietnamese waters, testing the 12 nautical miles (22 km; 14 mi) limit and North Vietnamese resolve. These runs into North Vietnamese territorial waters coincided with South Vietnamese coastal raids and were interpreted as coordinated operations by the North, which officially acknowledged the engagements of August 2, 1964.” The Maddox wasn’t choir boy innocent–it’s part of the Great Game.

    China and Vietnam claim the same waters as their territory. Vietnam is in the unsavory position of seeking US Navy assistance in protecting Vietnam’s territorial claims–the United Nations lacks a navy right now. Claiming is one thing–enforcing that claim is another.

    Fifty years ago, but the Gulf of Tonkin Incidents are not resolved. The issues of territorial boundaries at sea are not resolved. I could go back to the Panay Incident of 1937 or forward to the Liberty Incident of 1968–but few recognize the importance of those “acts of war.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panay_incident

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_incident

  4. Pathway says:

    In case you haven’t noticed Viet Nam has been asking Imperialist America to help them against an aggressive Red China.

    • au1corsair says:

      Yeah, Pathway, I’ve noticed:

      http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/prc-vietnam.htm

      https://www.strategypage.com/on_point/2014061021242.aspx

      “One on one, China versus Vietnam — Vietnam definitely has the weaker hand. Chinese military and economic capabilities vastly exceed those of the Vietnamese. To rectify the imbalance of power, Vietnam is seeking a Cold War-era solution: a relationship with the U.S. China knows that U.S. military and political support for the Philippines, and potentially Vietnam, blunts Beijing’s enormous power advantage. Since 1949, when the Communists seized mainland China and the Nationalists retreated to Taiwan, U.S. power has backed up Taiwan’s independence and frustrated mainland demands for unification.”

  5. Duster says:

    My vote is the Whiskey Rebellion and the suppression of the distillers.

    • Gail Combs says:

      +1

      Hardly anyone remembers (or is taught) about the Whiskey Rebellion. I did not learn about it until I became a net addict.

      • _Jim says:

        Funny – per wiki: “The whiskey tax was repealed after Thomas Jefferson’s Republican Party, which opposed Hamilton’s Federalist Party, came to power in 1801.”

        Perhaps this should be made more widely known …

        .

        • pesce9991 says:

          No, Jim. Not without correction first should it be well known. You should know that there was no “Republican” Party in Jefferson’s day. It was the Democratic-Republican Party he belonged to.

        • _Jim says:

          Let me get this straight – you are challenging wiki?

        • _Jim says:

          #2, I really DO need to put sarc tags after some of my more tongue-in-cheek posts, because, idiots like little fish are reading them … now we understand why NEWSPAPERS wrote ‘down’ to the level of our little fish’s level of comprehension …

        • _Jim says:

          “Fish heads fish heads. Roly poly fish heads fish heads fish heads eat them up, yum!”

    • tom0mason says:

      I’ll drink to that! – hick! – s,ques me.

  6. Duster says:

    The Whiskey Rebellion – necessity and suppression was the beginning of the downfall of America.

    Another operation against the public, manipulating their opinion was Hearst’s manipulation of the explosion of the Maine in Havana Harbor.

  7. omanuel says:

    When Kennedy was President (1960-1963) he tried to avoid USSR/China domination of the world.

    After Kennedy was assassinated, the Apollo mission was ended as down-payment on world peace and a return to the plan that world leaders had agreed to when the United Nations was established on 24 October 1945.

    Unreported CHAOS and FEAR of nuclear annihilation in late August 1945 had convinced world leaders to form the United Nations:

    Click to access CHAOS_and_FEAR_August_1945.pdf

  8. The downfall of America explains the sea level rise around America.

  9. Lumpi says:

    North Vietnam was an faschistoid/communistic aggressiv country that attacked several countries like Cambodia, South Vietnam, Laos etc.. China tried to start wars by North Vietnam (and also in Malaysia and other countries which is less known). The US was NOT the aggressor.
    I come from a neutral country and say it’s totally OK not to get involved in foreign conflicts, but I have to say the Vietnam war was not an unjust war and had its valid reasons. So tell me we have so many people fled Vietnam after the North has won?
    For sure, after the war was lost, it looked liked a total disaster and therefore totally useless. But afterwards is easy to know everything better.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s