Get The Shovels Out

At the end of another long hot summer in Greenland, the research station in the center of the ice cap is nearly buried in new snow which accumulated over the summer

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Climate experts tell the press that Greenland is melting down, even though their own data shows a net surface gain of 300 billion tons of ice over the past year, and that more than 90% of the surface has gained ice.

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22 Responses to Get The Shovels Out

  1. Otter (ClimateOtter on Twitter) says:

    Steve, if you please, a link to that data?

    I have several times tried to engage people who claim Greenland or Antarctica is melting down, but I can Never get them to tell me how much new snow and ice is forming in the interior. They’ll admit to melting but not to accumulating. I’d like to be able to shove it (the actual data) in their faces.

    • jlc says:

      Iceberg calving affects the net gain/loss which is the number oft quoted by AGW.
      From the article: “Over the year, it snows more than it melts, but calving of icebergs also adds to the total mass budget of the ice sheet. Satellite observations over the last decade show that the ice sheet is not in balance. The calving loss is greater than the gain from surface mass balance, and Greenland is losing mass at about 200 Gt/yr.”

      • That has nothing to do with melt, and their figures are complete BS.

      • sunsettommy says:

        Increased calving rates usually mean the ice pack is expanding. If they were not expanding calving rates would slow to a point of no calving at all if continued long enough.

      • jlc says:

        CryoSat satellite data on elevation change of Greenland ice shows a net annual decrease of 375 Gt during 2011-2014. See last image: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-28852980

      • Dmh says:

        The 200 Gt/yr of lost ice is an average over recent years, the present situation is a relative gain of mass with respect to 2013 season.
        This data agrees also with the stable/growing icecap in the entire Arctic in 2013 and this year, probably reflecting increased average cooling of the region.
        The present trend is “upward” (ice accumulation), that’s what Steve’s post is saying, but their analysis is still based on the previous trend, which is *biased* because the trend started to change last year.
        If they wanted to be perfectly honest, they should have mentioned that.

        • jlc says:

          It will all come out in the wash Jan 2015 when there are whole year numbers to compare. I expect 2012 less than 2013 less than 2014, that would make a trend, if it occurs. Better to keep powder dry and not rely on year to month or recent months data.

  2. Alec, aka daffy duck says:

    Snowing there; arctic 10 day forecast gifs:
    http://www.weather-forecast.com/maps/Arctic?symbols=none&type=prec

  3. mjc says:

    Yes, but Greenland isn’t only place expecting snow this weekend…

    http://www.wunderground.com/news/first-snow-august-montana-glacier-national-park-20140822

  4. Andy DC says:

    Tiger can start his comeback with a good showing at the Greenland Open.

  5. wwlee4411 says:

    Reblogged this on wwlee4411 and commented:
    Global warming and the melting of Arctic ice.

  6. rah says:

    Hey! Where are the climate refugee huts?

  7. Jimmy Haigh. says:

    There was fresh snow on some of the Scottish mountains the other day.

  8. gregole says:

    http://bprc.osu.edu/wiki/Greenland_Factsheet

    Plenty of ice in Greenland. Ice-loss in Greenland is off my list of things to worry about.

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