The New York Times Expects A Water Mountain To Form Off The East Coast

You simply can’t make up the stupidity level on display at the New York Times

While levels worldwide are expected to rise an average of two to three feet by 2100, they could surge more than six feet along the Atlantic seaboard. The study named Boston, New York, and Norfolk, Va., as the three most vulnerable metropolitan areas.

Rising Seas – NYTimes.com

They are expecting sea level to be four feet higher along the East Coast, than the rest of the world. It must be that new kind of water which mounds up at one end of the swimming pool.

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25 Responses to The New York Times Expects A Water Mountain To Form Off The East Coast

  1. tom0mason says:

    And who said our eductional system is not ‘dumbed-down’.
    NYT the sheeples’ News.

  2. that must be really hard water!

  3. geran says:

    From the NYT article:

    “Globally, sea levels have risen eight to 10 inches since 1880…”

    From a source OTHER than NYT:

    “In North America, pollen and charcoal in sediments from Chesapeake Bay record climatic changes over the last 1000 years (Brush 1991). During the Medieval climatic optimum, large influxes of charcoal, sediment, and metals indicate more frequent forest fires and higher rates of erosion in the surrounding basin. Forest in the Chesapeake basin recovered, and erosion diminished, during the following few centuries of cold climate. In southern Florida, sea level was at least ½ m higher than now from the first through tenth centuries (Froede 2002).”

    http://academic.emporia.edu/aberjame/ice/lec19/lec19.htm

    Half a meter is over 19 inches. So, for about a 1000 years, sea levels were 19 inches higher than today, then they [must have] dropped much lower so that they could rise 10 inches since 1880, to get where they are today.

    Question: What exactly is “average” sea level “supposed” to be?

    • Hugh K says:

      Average sea level = current sea level x CAGW model predictions > alarm

    • Gail Combs says:

      That is not the only study that calls rising sea levels hogwash.
      The Sea level High Stand was thousands of years ago and the earth is now cooling off in the last gasp of the Holocene. (The Holocene interglacial is now 11,717 years old, that’s two centuries or so beyond half the present precession cycle.)

      Holocene sea-level change and ice-sheet history in the Vestfold
      Hills, East Antarctica
      Dan Zwartz ) , Michael Bird, John Stone, Kurt Lambeck

      Abstract
      A new Holocene sea-level record from the Vestfold Hills, Antarctica, has been obtained by dating the lacustrine–marine and marine–lacustrine transitions that occur in sediment cores from lakes which were formerly connected to the sea. From an elevation of ; 7.5 m 8000 yr ago, relative sea-level rose to a maximum ; 9 m above present sea-level 6200 yr ago. Since then, sea-level has fallen monotonically until the present….

      The Holocene sealevel Highstand was ~ 1.5 meter above todays sea-level 6,000 years ago in geologically stable South Vietnam. Sea level has been DECREASING in fits and starts ever since then.

      Southeast Vietnam beachrocks reveal that the mid-Holocene sea-level highstand slightly above + 1.4 m was reached between 6.7 and 5.0 ka, with a peak value close to + 1.5 m around 6.0 ka….
      http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921818113001859

      The paper, Temperature and precipitation history of the Arctic says: “Solar energy reached a summer maximum (9% higher than at present) ~11 ka ago and has been decreasing since then, primarily in response to the precession of the equinoxes. The extra energy elevated early Holocene summer temperatures throughout the Arctic 1-3°C above 20th century averages, enough to completely melt many small glaciers throughout the Arctic, although the Greenland Ice Sheet was only slightly smaller than at present.”

      Another, more recent study in Norway agrees:

      A new approach for reconstructing glacier variability based on lake sediments recording input from more than one glacier January 2012
      Kristian Vasskoga Øyvind Paaschec, Atle Nesjea, John F. Boyled, H.J.B. Birks

      …. A multi-proxy numerical analysis demonstrates that it is possible to distinguish a glacier component in the ~ 8000-yr-long record, based on distinct changes in grain size, geochemistry, and magnetic composition…. This signal is …independently tested through a mineral magnetic provenance analysis of catchment samples. Minimum glacier input is indicated between 6700–5700 cal yr BP, probably reflecting a situation when most glaciers in the catchment had melted away, whereas the highest glacier activity is observed around 600 and 200 cal yr BP. During the local Neoglacial interval (~ 4200 cal yr BP until present), five individual periods of significantly reduced glacier extent are identified at ~ 3400, 3000–2700, 2100–2000, 1700–1500, and ~ 900 cal yr BP….

      The authors of all these papers simply state that most small glaciers likely didn’t exist 6,000 years ago, but the highest period of the glacial increase has been in the past 600 years. This means more water is bound up in glaciers and the sea level has fallen. This is hardly surprising with ~9% less solar energy.

  4. emsnews says:

    During the Ice Ages the coastlines were way out on the continental shelves. Way lower than today.

    I suspect the global warmists are working with polar bears to bring back the Ice Ages. Seriously. They are insane.

    • nielszoo says:

      Most of the polar bears I know are quite sane and would be rather peeved to be lumped in with the Warmists. You really don’t want a polar bear mad at you.

    • Gail Combs says:

      I doubt they are insane. I think they know glaciation is going to happen soon so they want to make sure THEY survive and the useless masses don’t have a snowballs chance in hades of surviving. (Immigrants from Mexico are not useless since they can work the land under primitive conditions. 75% of Mexico’s farmers were bankrupted by Clinton’s NAFTA and have moved to cities in Mexico or immigrated.)

      How many inner city types are going to survive the cutting off of cheap energy and cheap food, all paid for on the tax payers dime?

      How many are going to riot and destroy like they did in Detroit and are now doing in Fergusion?

      Jan, 2010 Business Insider: Barton Biggs: Stock A Safe Haven With Food And Firearms To Protect Against Doomsday Pillagers

      Morgan Stanley research guru turned hedge fund manager Barton Biggs (pictured), who called the market rally, advises that you buy a farm a good distance away from a city and, he advises, make sure that your doomsday safe-haven:
      Be self-sufficient and capable of growing some kind of food
      Be well-stocked with seed, fertilizer, canned food, wine, medicine, clothes, etc….
      Mark “Gloom Boom Doom” Faber also recommends buying farmland. Our society has peaked and is on the decline, he says…

      But the government is one step ahead of the mavericks who might survive: (think FEMA)

      ….President Obama on March 16, 2012 makes clear that in the event of a nationally deemed emergency all of these resources will fall under the authority of the United States government.

      The signing of the National Defense Resources Preparedness executive order grants the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Agriculture, the Department of Labor, the Department of Defense and other agencies complete control of all US resources, including the ability to seize, confiscate or re-delegate resources, materials, services, and facilities as deemed necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense as delegated by the following agencies:

      Sec. 201. Priorities and Allocations Authorities. (a)

      (1) the Secretary of Agriculture with respect to food resources, food resource facilities, livestock resources, veterinary resources, plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment and commercial fertilizer;

      (2) the Secretary of Energy with respect to all forms of energy;

      (3) the Secretary of Health and Human Services with respect to health resources;

      (4) the Secretary of Transportation with respect to all forms of civil transportation;

      (5) the Secretary of Defense with respect to water resources; and

      (6) the Secretary of Commerce with respect to all other materials, services, and facilities, including construction materials.

      (b) The Secretary of each agency delegated authority under subsection (a) of this section (resource departments) shall plan for and issue regulations to prioritize and allocate resources and establish standards and procedures by which the authority shall be used to promote the national defense, under both emergency and non-emergency conditions.

      The new order provides specific definitions for each of these essential infrastructure elements, indicating that all resources, not just those owned by large farms and businesses, are to be directly controlled by the government. Thus, if you think the investments you made in digging a water well, building a solar array, or stockpiling food were for your own personal use, think again…
      link

      Strange, I never saw this in the Constitution.

      Article. I.

      Section. 1.

      All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives…..

      Article. II.

      Section. 1.

      The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America…
      Section. 2.

      The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

      He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

      The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.

      Section. 3.

      He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

      Section. 4.

      The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
      http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

      Seems if we actually follow the Constitution we should have just about ALL of Washington DC up on charges for “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

      Foreign interests spend $87 million lobbying in U.S.

      Mexico Is Among The Top 10 Countries Paying Washington Lobbyists

      How Foreign Governments Make Sure You Don’t Know They’re Lobbying: Countries from Uzbekistan to Ukraine use a loophole to try to quietly influence the United States. A “foreign agent” by any other name.

      The European Centre for a Modern Ukraine, an obscure nonprofit based in Belgium, was founded by a former top official in Ukraine’s governing party and appears to be a proxy for the country’s pro-Russian government. In 2012, the group hired a pair of high-powered American lobbying firms to advocate on its behalf.

      But what those lobbyists, who include Obama-era Democratic superlobbyist Tony Podesta, are actually doing is a mystery. Unlike the Washington firms hired directly by foreign governments, Ukraine’s leadership has slipped its American agenda through an increasingly popular loophole in the federal law intended to regulate foreign activity in the United States, allowing it to follow the minimal disclosure practices required of domestic corporate lobbies, not the extensive ones demanded of registered foreign agents. It’s a loophole now used by a range of post-communist governments…

      And then there is Clinton who sold the entire country out to China. link

  5. kirkmyers says:

    The NYT editorial board is now so far gone that it doesn’t realize how stupid it looks. Global warming? C’mon. Is there a physicist or engineer onboard?

    The once-proud paper is no better than a penny broadsheet, a daily confirmation of modern-day “journalism’s” descent into yellow journalism. Buy it for the BOGO ads — and for the cat litter.

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  7. EternalOptimist says:

    if the sea is four feet higher, that means the sky will be four feet higher. The moon will be four feet closer. Getting to mars will be quicker, but this is a navigational hazard to satelites.

    we should not be blase about this

  8. nielszoo says:

    Surf’s Up!

  9. Doug Hensley says:

    Water and gravity can be more complicated in the ocean than in a swimming pool. Consider, for instance, that if the Greenland ice cap were to melt entirely, the waters off Greenland would recede, with new beaches emerging from the waves.

    How? How could this happen with sea level rising?

    The mass of the ice cap now pulls on the water, heaping it up some. With the ice cap gone, its gravity would also be gone.

    The extra water thus released would have to go somewhere.

    I haven’t thought this through all the way, and I don’t claim to understand just how or why we should expect a greater rise in sea level off New York than in general. But there could be all sorts of things that are not obvious, like that ice cap thing, that the scientists have had to take into account. So I don’t just dismiss their prediction as ridiculous.

  10. philjourdan says:

    THe Beach Boys will have to move to the right coast. That will make for some great swells!

  11. Hugh K says:

    NY Times doing prep work for Zero’s upcoming illegal (circumventing Congress) global climate initiative. Wednesday will get interesting.

  12. suyts says:

    Steve, of course they believe that nonsense. They believe the nonsense Aviso puts out. http://suyts.wordpress.com/2014/08/26/steve-goddard-reveals-ocean-downhill-skiing-opportunity/

  13. Send Al to the Pole says:

    This is the etheral foo foo world of progressive nirvana. You click your heels 3 times and all your eco psycho dreams can come true. Plants begin to talk, and spawn flowers made of 100 dollar bills. Healthcare costs nothing, and no one needs to work. Everything is free, and everyone can retire to seek their inner Lohan. CO2 begins to heat the planet, but heavy taxation brings joy to all and they begin to walk everywhere (when they aren’t shivering in their beds), and earth is saved.

  14. Fallon says:

    Kenyan-blessed Stimulus Water?

  15. Chris says:

    Gee. Maybe we don’t have global warming 🙂

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