Why Would McCain “Talk About Obama’s Christian Faith?”

It is important to listen to what people are saying. Obama’s statement made sense

John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith

Stephanopoulos version made no sense

John McCain has not talked about my Christian faith

McCain would have no reason to talk about Obama’s Christian faith, and Obama would have no reason to bring the subject up.

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45 Responses to Why Would McCain “Talk About Obama’s Christian Faith?”

  1. schauminator says:

    I think we need to realize we have meet our enemy and it is the stupid and uninformed us. Yes, We The Complacent People.
    Why is or was religion an issue for Obama, because it was known by only a few million people that Obama had a Muslim/Communist/Marxist governance background to implement Hope And Change, and that number must not grow. Both political parties put up questionable candidates in 2008 with issues as to their birth citizenship status. A 3rd party, the Socialist Party, even put a person name Calero on the ballot for President in 2008 in half dozen states and he only had a “green card” and was not even a Citizen, let alone a “natural born Citizen”. And the system and media let Calero do it and didn’t challenge him in order to keep the lid on the cover-up of the constitutional eligibility issues of the respective presidential candidates of the two major parties. The fix and cover-up was in. Obama was born as a British Subject of a non-U.S. citizen father and McCain was born on the sovereign soil of Panama, not on the military base in the Canal Zone as was touted to the public. Both having issues with their candidates they proceeded to cover up for each other and helped shut down the media and talk radio totally via their respective high contacts in the media industry and elected officials within the sitting Bush administration and in Congress as well as within their own respective presidential campaign organizations. No one in either political party wanted a free and open debate in the media as to the true historical, constitutional, and Supreme Court common law cases mentioning Vattel and his words on the meaning of “natural born Citizen”. No one in either political party wanted a full Congressional hearing about the true meaning of Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution concerning who is constitutionally eligible to be President and Commander in Chief of the military, especially in the case of Obama whose father was not even an immigrant to this country, let alone not being a citizen of the USA. We are a nation of immigrants. But Obama’s father was never one. The political parties and powers in DC wanted to hide this issue from the American people for the political ambition and power of both political parties to run the candidate of their choice irrespective of Constitutional issues. They did not want to hear from the People about this. So the cover up began to squelch all discussion of it to keep as many people in the dark as possible. “Thou shalt not talk about the presidential constitutional Article II eligibility issues” was the word put out by all the powers to be in Washington DC and the U.S. media. Their favorite modus operandi for the cover up was was either ignore the questioners or ridicule them if not able to ignore them. Two favorite tools of Saul Alinsky from his book, Rules for Radicals. And further, it was reported that even outright threats were made to certain conservative talk show radio hosts in the last quarter of 2008 to never broach the subject of constitutional eligibility issues on their shows or to allow on the air people who wish to talk about that issue.

    And the cover up continues to this day and is most obvious with the stone silence and “cone of silence” and occasional mocking comments made by the talk show hosts about the eligibility issue questions if mentioned briefly by a guest now and then on Fox News. The approach on Fox News is to ban the topic. Other networks such as MSNBC simply mock the movement continually using Saul Alinsky’s tactics from Rules for Radicals rule number 5, ridicule, to stifle all open, serious, and public debate on the issue and to scare off any one in political power from broaching the subject. Anyone even just mentioning this issue is pounced on for the ridicule treatment by the press. This shut down a free and full “on air” debate of the Obama eligibility issue with serious scholars and legal experts representing each side. Absolutely no one would be allowed on the air together with someone from the Obot side to debate this issue openly is being orchestrated at the highest levels.

    Again, how big is this cover up? listen to these two videos then someone just ask Hillary what did she know and when did she know it, that Obama was a fraud? Ask her, why didn’t you tell We The People and protect our constitution’s guidance?
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/sheriff-joe-expands-obama-probe-to-hillary-supporters/ Bettina Viviano interview with Jerome Corsi
    http://1776nation.com/2012/04/hillary-supporters-untold-obama-horror-stories/ Michele Thomas interview with Jerome Corsi

    We The People = Stupid is as stupid does in their bliss. And to think Hillary Clinton may get elected because of our uninformed citizens thanks mostly to white women and our college student voter base.

    • A few months ago Hillary came out and said on camera that the Russia Reset “worked”, that it accomplished its intended purpose. And that sound you heard, was the sound of the Democrats nominating someone else in 2016….


      • schauminator says:

        Let see, did she mean the birth of the BRICS led by Russia and China so they could RESET their currency by creating their own banking system based on the GOLD Standard to protect themselves against the failing dollar. Then she is right, because the number of BRICS members is growing in opposition to the Petro dollar.

        • No, she didn’t mean that. She was asked the “button-pressing incident” and gave that answer. This was right after the Malysian plane was shot down, and the Russian-backed rebels were refusing access to the area, and trying to blame it on the Ukraine, and right after the wiretaps had been on the networks with the Russian commanders revealing their knowledge of what happened, and their complicity in it. And into the middle of this wades Hillary, angrily insisting that the U.S. succeeded in domesticating Russia by getting them to press a red “reset” button that wasn’t even connected to anything! And she plunged in her polling results right after that. Not even Hillary Clinton can overcome something like that. People may forget, but the Democrat leadership know that they can be reminded with a single TV commercial. They will not allow her to be nominated.


        • schauminator says:

          RTF. My comment was sort of stated in jest. Although it is true. Russia truly did RESET and big time.

        • Oh, I forgot to mention that the civilian bodies were still strewn all over the crash site when she said it, with the stench of the rotting bodies (including two babies) being reported by international media. And the rebels were literally fighting around these bodies, and the luggage had been picked clean. Hillary’s statement in the middle of this was one of the most surreal experiences I’ve ever had. RTF

        • schauminator says:

          I think we must remember Hillary and Obama’s comments are directed at useful idiots to keep them uninformed. I call it the farming of ignorance. Hope-n-Change with out a tangible hope subject or plan for their changed from to destination.

        • Russia is the same Russia they have been since 1917. I don’t know why, but nearly everyone today on our side seems to struggle with this concept. It’s the United States that has been reset. Understanding this is fundamental to achieving any victory in the war that has been declare on us.


        • schauminator says:

          The war on us is performed by our own elected leaders not Russia or China. My best example is our elected officials will not discuss or debate the majority of subject material spoken to right here on this blog. Almost everything they discuss is a diversion from the real problems and who benefits and gets hurt the most.
          I have spent a large majority of my work life in the Middle East and Europe the young business people are concerned about how stupid and lazy our youth have become. Yes, just like the majority of their people. This is also common talk on the streets and restaurants in Amman Jordan.

        • Gail Combs says:

          Richard, It is not the same Russia. Putin is Darn Smart and therefore twice as dangerous. He is also not fooled by the Globalization crap. He is FOR RUSSIA and no one else.

          I wish the idiots in the DemiRats and ReBooblicans would realize that and actually give us a leader instead of a puppet this time.

          See: Economic Interdependence and War: A Theory of Trade Expectations,” International Security, Vol. 20, no.4
          It explains why the Progressives have their heads wedged and are endangering this country.

          With luck Russia and the Ukraine exploding in their faces might actually be a wake-up call but I very much doubt it.

        • Sorry Gail, Putin is a Leninist (Leninism is a very “smart” system, judging by its longevity and rapid spread to all countries) and his behavior is totally consistent with his philosophy, which he has held his entire life. Leninism won the first phase of the Cold War, and has massively improved its lot in the years since. It seems that they have you somewhat fooled, too.

          Tell me something, if Leninism is such a dumb philosophy, how come its adherents have been kicking our butts in science and engineering (including social and psychological engineering) for almost 90 years? Not much of a reset there, is there. It’s true they had a little fiscal crisis for about 4-5 years (1989-1994, but that was merely a painful birthing process as their system was rapidly expanded outward and control in E.U., U.S. and other G20 countries was solidified. These people are morally awful (Satanic, actually) and their social skills are horrendous, but they are not dumb. Their system never collapsed and is by far the strongest it’s ever been. Until the mid-1970s, they were not having any significant economic problems (in terms of causing structural instability; general economic problems are considered a feature of their system, not a flaw) in the countries they fully dominated. And since about 1997, that has again been the situation.

          Nearly all the problems we have been having in multi-party countries have been engineered by Leninists for the purpose of drawing a contrast between free-market capitalism and Leninism. Again, this is the same strategy employed to great effect by the Soviet Union in China and then Europe, and then Japan. No reset whatsoever is visible to me. I have spent a long time looking for one. If there has been one, then there must have been two. I see neither.

          We are actually the dumber ones in a sense, because while we have a superior philosophy, we fail to recognize the skill of the other side in brainwashing us to think that our leaders are not Leninists, and not pawns of international socialism. Hitler and Hirohito were pawns of Stalin. Obama, Romney, Cameron, etc. are pawns of Putin, Hu, and Xi. And the latter are pawns of Satan.

          Tell something, why do we now find ourselves arrayed against the British “royalty”, when they used to be huge supporters of traditional conservative ways? It is because of a Russia-led reset that has occurred in the West during the lifetime of Elizabeth.

          What words in the Bible describe Satan’s actions in the last few days of this world? It is in Revelation 12:12 …

          Therefore rejoice, Heavens, and you that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the Earth and of the sea! for the Devil is come down upon you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has but a short time.

          Finally, look up what the word Putin means in French (if you don’t already know) and then, if you like, tell me if you still believe he could have ever been anything different than he is now.


      • Gail Combs says:

        I am well aware that the Soviets (or their buddies the Fabians) have been gaining ground in the USA and all over the world since the 1930s and before. Heck they just caught a bunch of Soviet Spies a few years ago and the Russian propaganda machine in the Ukraine:
        2010: “Of the accused Russian spies the FBI nabbed this week, none surprised more people than Spanish-language journalist Vicky Pelaez…. she had married Lazaro, a political science professor who claims to have been born in Uruguay, but who was caught on FBI surveillance tapes confiding he had been raised in the Soviet Union.” (wwwDOT)nydailynews.com/news/crime/vicky-pelaez-caught-alleged-russian-spy-ring-lived-life-spotlight-el-diario-columnist-article-1.185241

        Russian propaganda in the Ukraine caught red-handed:

        However the key is to FOLLOW THE MONEY.

        Congressman McFadden in his 1934 speeches made the plans of the international bankers very very clear.

        World Enslavement Planned

        “Mr. Chairman, when the Fed was passed, the people of these United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here which would make the savings of the American school teacher available to a narcotic-drug vendor in Acapulco. They did not perceive that these United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country which has nothing but raw material and heart, that Russia was destined to supply the man power and that this country was to supply the financial power to an “international superstate”. A superstate controlled by international bankers, and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure?

        “The people of these United States are being greatly wronged. They have been driven from their employments. They have been dispossessed from their homes. They have been evicted from their rented quarters. They have lost their children. They have been left to suffer and die for lack of shelter, food, clothing and medicine.

        “The wealth of these United States and the working capital have been taken away from them and has either been locked in the vaults of certain banks and the great corporations or exported to foreign countries for the benefit of the foreign customers of these banks and corporations. So far as the people of the United States are concerned, the cupboard is bare.

        “It is true that the warehouses and coal yards and grain elevators are full, but these are padlocked, and the great banks and corporations hold the keys.

        “The sack of these United States by the Fed is the greatest crime in history.

        “What is needed here is a return to the Constitution of these United States.

        “The old struggle that was fought out here in Jackson’s time must be fought our over again. The independent United States Treasury should be reestablished and the Government should keep its own money under lock and key in the building the people provided for that purpose.

        “Asset currency, the devise of the swindler, should be done away with. The Fed should be abolished…

        “These twelve private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this Country by the bankers who came here from Europe and repaid us our hospitality by undermining our American institutions. Those bankers took money out of this Country to finance Japan in a war against Russia. They created a reign of terror in Russia with our money in order to help that war along. They instigated the separate peace between Germany and Russia, and thus drove a wedge between the allies in World War. They financed Trotsky’s passage from New York to Russia so that he might assist in the destruction of the Russian Empire. They fomented and instigated the Russian Revolution, and placed a large fund of American dollars at Trotsky’s disposal in one of their branch banks in Sweden so that through him Russian homes might be thoroughly broken up and Russian children flung far and wide from their natural protectors. They have since begun breaking up of American homes and the dispersal of American children.….

        “We were opposed to the Aldrich plan for a central bank. The men who rule the Democratic Party then promised the people that if they were returned to power there would be no central bank established here while they held the reigns of government. Thirteen months later that promise was broken, and the Wilson administration, under the tutelage of those sinister Wall Street figures who stood behind Colonel House, established here in our free Country the worm-eaten monarchical institution of the “King’s Bank” to control us from the top downward, and from the cradle to the grave.

        “The Federal Reserve Bank destroyed our old and characteristic way of doing business. It discriminated against our 1-name commercial paper, the finest in the world, and it set up the antiquated 2-name paper, which is the present curse of this Country and which wrecked every country which has ever given it scope; it fastened down upon the Country the very tyranny from which the framers of the Constitution sough to save us.

        For daring to oppose the plans of the International Bankers McFadden was driven from office and when he still would not shut up he was murdered.

        Pascal Lamy the former head of the World Trade Organization put the Banksters plans for enslavement very bluntly:

        …The reality is that, so far, we have largely failed to articulate a clear and compelling vision of why a new global order matters — and where the world should be headed. Half a century ago, those who designed the post-war system — the United Nations, the Bretton Woods system, the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) — were deeply influenced by the shared lessons of history.

        All had lived through the chaos of the 1930s — when turning inwards led to economic depression, nationalism and war. All, including the defeated powers, agreed that the road to peace lay with building a new international order — and an approach to international relations that questioned the Westphalian, sacrosanct principle of sovereignty — rooted in freedom, openness, prosperity and interdependence….

        The Bretton Woods System was a central banking system set up by a Soviet Spy in the US Treasury Department, Harry Dexter White and a Prominent Fabian Socialist, John Maynard Keynes.

        The Bretton Woods meeting was an argument between wolves about how to manage the herd of sheeple they planned to have for dinner.

        Structural Adjustment Policies are economic policies which countries must follow in order to qualify for new World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF) loans and help them make debt repayments on the older debts owed to commercial banks, governments and the World Bank….

        SAPs generally require countries to devalue their currencies against the dollar; lift import and export restrictions; balance their budgets and not overspend; and remove price controls and state subsidies….

        Balancing national budgets can be done by raising taxes, which the IMF frowns upon, or by cutting government spending, which it definitely recommends. As a result, SAPs often result in deep cuts in programmes like education, health and social care, and the removal of subsidies designed to control the price of basics such as food and milk. So SAPs hurt the poor most….

        The term “Structural Adjustment Program” has gained such a negative connotation that the World Bank and IMF launched a new initiative, the Poverty Reduction Strategy Initiative, and makes countries develop Poverty Reduction Strategy Papers (PRSP). While the name has changed, with PRSPs, the World Bank is still forcing countries to adopt the same types of policies as SAPs.

        No doubt the renaming was partly due to this letter from Davison Budhoo, a senior economist with the IMF.

        “Today I resigned from the staff of the International Monetary Fund after over 12 years, and after 1000 days of official fund work in the field, hawking your medicine and your bag of tricks to governments and to peoples in Latin America and the Caribbean and Africa. To me, resignation is a priceless liberation, for with it I have taken the first big step to that place where I may hope to wash my hands of what in my mind’s eye is the blood of millions of poor and starving peoples. Mr. Camdessus, the blood is so much, you know, it runs in rivers. It dries up too; it cakes all over me; sometimes I feel that there is not enough soap in the whole world to cleanse me from the things that I did do in your name and in the name of your predecessors, and under your official seal. ”

        With those words, Davison Budhoo, a senior economist with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) for more than 12 years, publicly resigned in May, 1988. A native Grenadian, Budhoo received his degree from the London School of Economics. He joined the staff of the World Bank in 1966 and later shifted to the IMF, where he was responsible for designing and implementing Structural Adjustment Programs (SAPs) for African, Latin American and Caribbean nations. His 100-plus page open letter to Michel Camdessus, managing director of the IMF, titled “Enough is Enough,” sent shock waves around the world, making front page headlines in many countries (but not in the US)….

        Nikita Khrushchev also made it plain that the plan was to transform the USA.

        “At one point during Khrushchev’s visit, the Soviet Premier boasted to the Agriculture Secretary that Benson’s own grandchildren would live under Communism. Benson replied tartly that he expected to do all in his power to assure that Khrushchev’s and all other grandchildren would live under freedom. The Communist leader then responded in essence, according to Benson’s personal account: “You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept communism outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism.” (Soviet Premier of Russia Nikita Khrushchev, to Secretary of Agriculture, Ezra Taft Benson 1959.)

        The covert influence operations that Kent Clizbe details in his book, Willing Accomplices: How KGB Covert Influence Agents Created Political Correctness and Destroyed America, were what Khrushchev was referring. Khrushchev would have been well aware of the KGB’s activities in the USA.

        …The KGB had been quite successful in influencing the Americans already. Alex Gumberg was still working in America, continuing to run the operation that he had begun during the heady days of the Revolution in St. Petersburg.

        Now Dzerzhinsky, and his staff under OMS cover would have directed the German master of influence [Willi Muenzenberg] to concentrate on the American “market.” Gumberg had made heady inroads with the diplomatic, corporate, and legislative targets in the States: he was running Raymond Robins, and was working his contacts to wriggle deeper and deeper into corporate America. [Think Al Gore’s Senior’s buddy Armand Hammer of Occidental Petroleum]

        Lenin’s vision to bring America to its knees required penetration of the wellsprings of its civil identity, the “transmission belts” of American culture….

        Covert Influence Payload
        Babette Gross, wife of KGB agent Willi Muenzenberg, explained the content of the Soviet payload to Stephen Koch:
        * You claim to be an independent-minded idealist.
        * You don’t really understand politics, but you think the little guy is getting a lousy break.
        * You believe in open-mindedness.
        * You are shocked, frightened by what is going on right here in our own country.
        * You’re frightened by the racism, by the oppression of the workingman.
        * You think the Russians are trying a great human experiment, and you hope it works.
        * You believe in peace.
        * You yearn for international understanding.
        * You hate fascism.
        * You think the capitalist system is corrupt.

        This payload exactly matches today’s PC-Progressive message. The message that Soviet covert operators propagated through American Willing Accomplices. The Willing Accomplices, wittingly or unwittingly, spread the anti-American message. And this message bloomed and grew into the pernicious set of taboos and strictures that we call PC today. It is important to note that Soviet espionage simply planted the seeds of PC. The seedlings did not need continued communist cultivation. The Soviets’ American Willing Accomplices nurtured the anti-American message in universities, newsrooms, and in Hollywood.

        After the payloads were planted, the vast majority of the communist intelligence operatives met the fate of most stooges of totalitarian thugs—violent death at the hands of their comrades. ….

        At this point we have the Russian Bear and the Chinese Dragon gaining strength through the repeated tr@itorous acts of the people in Washington. What is actually going on behind the scenes I do not know except for one thing. What ever it is it will mean the enslavement of the people of the world including the USA.

        • It seems you agree with me after all: Russia has not “reset”. It is the same Russia it has been since 1917. It is the United States that has been reset, under Russian guidance.

          By corollary, it must then follow that Putin is not just “for Russia” but for the global system which he is playing a leading role in setting up, and for which his country’s political system is the principal model.


        • Gail Combs says:

          Oh, I have no doubt Putin and the Chinese want a World Government but I do not think the Useful Idiots like Hilary and Bill Clinton or Al Gore or Maurice Strong realize it is not what they think it is going to be.

          Communists/Socialists have a history of using a bullet to the back of the head for idiots once their usefulness is finished.

          By the By, Here is a really interesting story from the socialists:

        • I think the Clintons know. They are ruthless survivors in the Lenin mold. Strong actually lives in China, so I’d have a hard time believing that he doesn’t know. I think that Gore is pretty clueless.

          I actually think that Bill has been making an aggressive case behind the scenes for him to run the UN. And I think he has a lot of support for that. However, he is a U.S. citizen, and I think that’s a deal-breaker for most of them. No matter how much water he carries, he won’t be able to get away from that. Plus if Hillary doesn’t get nominated, he could have the Dickens of a time getting out from under the Obamas’ shadow.


        • Gail Combs says:

          This is what I think the Clintons and Strong and others are over looking. They are completely underestimating the Chinese ability to play court intrigue and their bone deep hatred for the west. Americans are complete babes in the woods when it comes to two faced lying as practiced by the Russians and Chinese.

          Lessons of history: China’s century of humiliation The repercussions of British opportunism in China during the Opium Wars can be felt in geopolitics even today

          China Picks at the Scab to Keep the Wound Fresh

          The current Chinese leader, Xi Jinping, is the first of the “heirs” to take power. As the son of a communist general who fought the Japanese and the Nationalists, he is a princeling, a member of the new hereditary aristocracy. A passage from an essay by the Australian defense analyst Paul Monk is very telling on the subject of what President Xi intends for Asia’s near future:

          In any case, Xi Jinping, despite his genial smile, good English, and familiarity with the United States, is no reforming liberal. Shortly after assuming the presidency, he took all the members of his politburo with him to the bizarre museum the Party has built in Tiananmen Square – the museum of national humiliation and revival. He pointed out to them the exhibits showing the arrival of the Jesuits via Macao in the sixteenth century and how this had been the beginning of the infiltration and humiliation of China by the West. He pointed out the exhibits showing the Japanese invasions of China and making the unfounded assertion that the Japanese were defeated by the Communist Party with a little help from “good” Nationalist generals. The Americans, he said, then became the enemy. “Against this external enemy,” he told China’s inner group of top leaders, “we must stick together.”

          To erase the shame of its century of national humiliation, China will need to have an unequivocal victory over somebody…..

          2014/06/02 Chinese General Says U.S. Foreign Policy Has ‘Erectile Dysfunction’ Problems

          Remember Clinton GAVE the Chinese our technology.

          …waivers allowed the export of machine tools, defense electronics, and even a communications system for the Chinese Air Force.

          Bernard Schwartz and Michael Armstrong, the CEOs of Loral and Hughes, each donated over one million dollars to Clinton’s re-election campaign. These companies had an interest in seeing China develop reliable missiles to loft their satellites into orbit. Clinton arranged direct talks between Bernard Schwartz and a Chinese general to improve China’s rocket technology. Michael Armstrong was made head of the Export Advisory Council. Both companies were allowed to upgrade the launching and guidance of China’s missiles….

          Clinton even involved the Department of Energy, caretaker of our nuclear weapons, in his fundraising schemes. In 1994 and ’95 then Energy Secretary Hazel O’Leary accompanied Johnny Chung, John Huang, Charlie Trie, and Bernard Schwartz on trade missions to China. Shortly afterward the DOE relaxed security at US weapons labs. Wen Ho Lee, an ethnic Chinese physicist assigned to Los Alamos, illegally transferred data on nuclear warheads to his private computer files.

          In June of 1995, the CIA learned that China had stolen the crown jewels of our nuclear arsenal, including the neutron bomb and the W-88 miniaturized warhead. Later that year National Security Advisor Anthony Lake is briefed on the thefts. He is replaced on the Security Council by Sandy Berger, a former lobbyist for the Chinese government. In June of 1996, before Bill Clinton’s re-election, the FBI opens a formal investigation into the theft of US nuclear weapon designs.

          Proof of China’s military intentions came in March of 1996, on the eve of Taiwan’s first democratic elections. China used the threat of force to intimidate the island nation into electing a pro-Beijing candidate. Military maneuvers included bombing runs and launching ballistic missiles that impacted within twenty miles of Taiwan. When the US sent an aircraft carrier into the Taiwan Straits, a Chinese general threatened to “rain down nukes upon Los Angeles”…..

          The Chinese have no love of the USA but are willing to play the Clinton’s and Strong and who ever else until they are technically and militarily our superiors.

          Meanwhile, China’s Premier Wen Jiabao says he’s “worried” about the health of China’s $1 trillion worth of U.S. Treasury bonds. The consequence of a slowing U.S. economy, weakening stock market and massive government spending are threatening to send the dollar lower over time, devaluing holdings like Treasuries. That doesn’t, however, mean China will sell its massive bond holdings, since there are so few places for such huge pools of capital to go these days (that of course, is not a good thing). Quoted in the Financial Times, Luo Ping, a director-general at the China Banking Regulatory Commission, put it more bluntly:

          “Except for US Treasuries, what can you hold?” he asked. “Gold? You don’t hold Japanese government bonds or UK bonds. US Treasuries are the safe haven. For everyone, including China, it is the only option.”
          Mr Luo, whose English tends toward the colloquial, added: “We hate you guys. Once you start issuing $1 trillion-$2 trillion [$1,000bn-$2,000bn] . . .we know the dollar is going to depreciate, so we hate you guys but there is nothing much we can do.”


          Now the Chinese and other BRIC countries are amassing gold.

          Time to start polishing up on your Mandarin, if the DemiRats do manage to disarm the US citizenry. There is nothing to really stop a Chinese attack in the future.

  2. JST1 says:

    Obama is the only person that I have ever heard state their religion incorrectly.

    • mjc says:

      That’s because his actual ‘religion’ is the cult Narcissus…

      • schauminator says:

        So was Obama baptized a Christian? Never. Did he study the Quran or the Bible? Ans. Quran – Was his mother a Christian? Ans. No – Was his alleged biological father a Christian or Muslim? Ans. Muslim – Was his Step father a Christian or Muslim? Ans. Muslim
        If it walks like a duck he could be a ____________

        • Gail Combs says:

          The name tells you his religion.

          My Grand Father was Muslim.
          Granddad changed his name to Frank upon adopting the Christian religion.
          Cassius Marcellus Clay, Jr changed his name to Muhammad Ali
          Barry Soetoro changed his name to Barack Hussein Obama

          Hussein means “blessed” in Arabic.

          Also his ‘Christian Minister’ Jeremiah Wright was also a ‘converted’ Muslim.

          Understand that ‘Deception’ to fool the enemy is acceptable and encouraged in Islam.

          Jeremiah Wright Thinks Barack Obama May Still Be A Muslim

          If you are Kaffir an unbeliever, a Muslim is prohibited from befriending you. He is allowed to lie to you, practice deception and concealment if it is expedient and may conclude peace treaties only while he is at a disadvantage. The treaties are one sided because a treaty is considered broken if an unbeliever attacks Islam with disapproval or criticism or if the Muslims feel they now have the advantage if they decide to resume war. Peace treaties are viewed as “timeouts” and not lasting peace.

          “The Tuqyah [practice of deception, lying or concealment for expediency]
          is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.” Allah said,

          [وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ]

          The Prohibition of Supporting the Disbelievers

          Allah prohibited His believing servants from becoming supporters of the disbelievers, or to take them as comrades with whom they develop friendships, rather than the believers. Allah warned against such behavior when He said,

          [وَمَن يَفْعَلْ ذَلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللَّهِ فِي شَىْءٍ]

          (And whoever does that, will never be helped by Allah in any way) meaning, whoever commits this act that Allah has prohibited, then Allah will discard him. Similarly, Allah said,

          [يأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ لاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ عَدُوِّى وَعَدُوَّكُمْ أَوْلِيَآءَ تُلْقُونَ إِلَيْهِمْ بِالْمَوَدَّةِ]

          (O you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies as friends, showing affection towards them), until,

          [وَمَن يَفْعَلْهُ مِنكُمْ فَقَدْ ضَلَّ سَوَآءَ السَّبِيلِ]

          Allah said next,

          [إِلاَ أَن تَتَّقُواْ مِنْهُمْ تُقَـةً]

          (unless you indeed fear a danger from them) meaning, except those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers. In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly. For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda’ said, “We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.” Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, “The Tuqyah is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.” Allah said,

          [وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللَّهُ نَفْسَهُ]

          (And Allah warns you against Himself.) meaning, He warns you against His anger and the severe torment He prepared for those who give their support to His enemies, and those who have enmity with His friends,

          [وَإِلَى اللَّهِ الْمَصِيرُ]

          Allah encourages the believers to show enmity to the idolators and to dissociate from them, affirming that they do not deserve to enjoy a covenant of peace, because of their Shirk in Allah and disbelief in Allah’s Messenger .

          If these disbelievers have a chance to defeat Muslims, they will cause great mischief, leave nothing unharmed, disregard the ties of kinship and the sanctity of their vows. `Ali bin Abi Talhah, `Ikrimah and Al-`Awfi narrated that Ibn `Abbas said, “Ill means kinship, while, Dhimmah means covenant.” Ad-Dahhak and As-Suddi said similarly.

          [اشْتَرَوْاْ بِـَايَـتِ اللَّهِ ثَمَنًا قَلِيلاً فَصَدُّواْ عَن سَبِيلِهِ إِنَّهُمْ سَآءَ مَا كَانُواْ يَعْمَلُونَ – لاَ يَرْقُبُونَ فِى مُؤْمِنٍ إِلاًّ وَلاَ ذِمَّةً وَأُوْلَـئِكَ هُمُ الْمُعْتَدُونَ – فَإِن تَابُواْ وَأَقَامُواْ الصَّلَوةَ وَءاتَوُاْ الزَّكَوةَ فَإِخْوَانُكُمْ فِي الدِّينِ وَنُفَصِّلُ الاٌّيَـتِ لِقَوْمٍ يَعْلَمُونَ ]

          Allah says, if the idolators with whom you conducted peace treaties for an appointed term break


          (their oaths) meaning, terms of their treaties, and covenants

          [وَطَعَنُواْ فِى دِينِكُمْ]

          (and attack your religion…) with disapproval and criticism, it is because of this that one who curses the Messenger, peace be upon him, or attacks the religion of Islam by way of criticism and disapproval, they are to be fought. This is why Allah said afterwards,

          [فَقَـتِلُواْ أَئِمَّةَ الْكُفْرِ إِنَّهُمْ لاَ أَيْمَـنَ لَهُمْ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَنتَهُونَ]

          Therefore, strike the swords upon the parts that contain the devil, for by Allah, it is better to me to kill one of these people than to kill seventy other men. This is because Allah said,

          [فَقَـتِلُواْ أَئِمَّةَ الْكُفْرِ]

          (then fight (you) against the leaders of disbelief.)”

          [أَلاَ تُقَـتِلُونَ قَوْماً نَّكَثُواْ أَيْمَـنَهُمْ وَهَمُّواْ بِإِخْرَاجِ الرَّسُولِ وَهُم بَدَءُوكُمْ أَوَّلَ مَرَّةٍ أَتَخْشَوْنَهُمْ فَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَن تَخْشَوْهُ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤُمِنِينَ – قَـتِلُوهُمْ يُعَذِّبْهُمُ اللَّهُ بِأَيْدِيكُمْ وَيُخْزِهِمْ وَيَنْصُرْكُمْ عَلَيْهِمْ وَيَشْفِ صُدُورَ قَوْمٍ مُّؤْمِنِينَ – وَيُذْهِبْ غَيْظَ قُلُوبِهِمْ وَيَتُوبُ اللَّهُ عَلَى مَن يَشَآءُ وَاللَّهُ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌ ]

          (I do not think Word Unimpressed will show the Arabic )

          [Muslims on the subject of Peace treaties:

          What this essentially means is that Muslims living in the West can pursue a course of peace with their unbelieving neighbors since the latter clearly outnumber the former. Yet when the Muslims muster enough power and wealth to overcome the “infidels” they will be forced to abandon peace and seek to conquer the disbelievers instead.

          In particular, this Islamic teaching destroys any basis for trust in peace treaties made by Muslims. They are never thought to be lasting but only until such time as the Muslims feel strong enough that it is to their advantage to break the peace and attack the unbelievers again. For this reason Islam does not know genuine peace treaties with non-Muslims, i.e. peace treaties that end war once and for all, but only temporary truces that can be dissolved at any time. Is it any wonder that Muhammad is quoted as saying that war is deceit!

          The Quran permits Muslims to accept a peace treaty from the unbelievers whom they are fighting:

          But if they incline to peace, you also incline to it, and (put your) trust in God. Verily, He is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower. S. 8:61 Hilali-Khan

          So be not weak and ask not for peace (from the enemies of Islâm), while you are having the upper hand. God is with you, and will never decrease the reward of your good deeds. S. 47:35 Hilali-Khan

          Muslims are commanded not to seek peace with the unbelievers, provided that they are the more dominant party! As the tafsir of Ibn Abbas states:

          (So do not falter) do not weaken, O believer, upon fighting the disbelievers (and cry out for peace) and it is said this means: for Islam before fighting (when you (will be) the uppermost) when you are the victorious and the ultimate consequence will be in your favour, (and Allah is with you) He helps you to defeat your enemy, (and He will not grudge (the reward of) your actions) and He will not diminish the works in which you engage during Jihad. (Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs; online source; …)

    • Sleepalot says:

      Indeed – it would be like getting your sex wrong: it’s central to your identity.

  3. Justa Joe says:

    Stephy and BHO probably rehearsed that line several times yet BHO still flubbed it.

  4. g2-9ed9acc685824c6663c51c5b093476cc says:

    Not a McCain fan…but if his being born in the Canal Zone – a US possession at the time – to a naval officer father and his wife at a U.S. Naval hospital made him “not qualified to run for President,” then we’ve got some seriously twisted folks around here.

    Does that mean he was a threat as an “agent of influence” for Panama then?

    • schauminator says:

      I think the answer to your question is – I don’t know anymore.
      As I stated in my previous post, McCain was born on the sovereign soil of Panama, not on the military base in the Canal Zone as was touted to the public. Both parties had technical issues with their candidates and they proceeded to cover up for each other and helped shut down the media and talk radio totally via their respective high contacts in the media industry and elected officials within the sitting Bush administration and in Congress as well as within their own respective presidential campaign organizations.
      Plus we knew the Clintons were well aware of at least Obama’s constitutional issues.

      • rah says:

        I’m not a McCain fan either but It did not matter if McCain was born in a Panamanian outhouse. He is the spawn of two American citizens and thus per US code a citizen at birth as per paragraph C below.
        8 U.S. Code § 1401 – Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

        The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
        (a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
        (b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
        (c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
        (d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
        (e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;
        (f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;
        (g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
        (A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
        (B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and
        (h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.

        • schauminator says:

          (a) means he does not qualify
          The following words stimulated the legal debate – “Born in United States or one of its outlying possessions” – this was the debate the Democrats were going to pursue to disqualify him shold Obama’s birth narrative be brought up as a constitutional requirement, or if McCain should win the election. Both parties knew this was a mess and put this potential debate off limits for all.
          Why? The Democrat legalese guys said McCain was born on the sovereign soil of Panama, not on the military base in the Canal Zone which is considered a outlying possessions of the United States. Seems valid for a debate.
          The simplest debate was the Clinton one stating Obama had at least dual citizenship maybe three US, UK and Indonesia.

  5. Send Al to the Pole says:

    Stoop-and-poop-on-us jumped in quickly to try to recover that, didn’t he? Absolute complicity.

    Let’s not forget Bungo’s Sahada prayer ring that is masquerading as a wedding ring to Michael (oh HE of the extra long ring finger and big guns)

    I think McStain was pushed forward as a candidate in 2008 by cold hard Ca$h. But where did that cash come from? Hundreds of millions came from overseas gift cards for Bungo and that is another story covered up.

    It might be that the GOP establishment helped McStain because he had the money. But they have proven their corruption in races like Mississippi.

    • Ed Martin says:

      Well that reply didn’t stick for some reason. I’m sure with Phil Gramm as your senior economic advisor UBS and others in the financial sector were throwing big money.

      OT but here we go again…


      Clinton said on Tuesday that the United States needs to have “a more thoughtful conversation” on guns and blasted gun rights activists.

      “We cannot let a minority of people — and that’s what it is, it is a minority of people — hold a viewpoint that terrorizes the majority of people,” she said.

      Those comments are the strongest she has made in favor of gun control during her book tour and plant Clinton firmly with those who support tougher restrictions.

      “We’re going to have to do a better job protecting the vast majority of our citizens, including our children, from that very, very, very small group that is unfortunately prone to violence and now with automatic weapons can wreak so much more violence than they ever could have before,” Clinton said.

      Clinton has said during her paid speaking tour over the past six months that the United States needs “to rein in what has become an almost article of faith that anybody can have a gun, anywhere, anytime.”


      • Gail Combs says:


        Let’s put Hitlery with a purse full of money on the Mexican border in a No Gun Zone……

        • Ed Martin says:

          Yeah, you know how to handle the Clinton clan.

          The CEO of Smith & Wesson just sold 23k shares, I wasn’t expecting that. Still going down farther into oversold territory. I’m going to load up on S&W and Ruger if it still looks like she will win. But there’s plenty of time. Load up on gold if the reflubs look like they’ll win. 😉

        • schauminator says:

          Gail, I work in my family’s business http://www.champagne-ricciuti.fr/ (Read History) in France and most of the young business people I speak with say there are large numbers of them in France, Germany, Italy and Spain cannot believe the young Americans don’t even know about the cause and effects of WWI and WWII. After and during these wars the European Zionist Jew$ infiltrated America. They were not Jews from the Arab lands which have little in common with those of the blood lines of Abraham towards politics and governance of their people. Reminding me to remember no one wanted these European Jews, especially all of the Arab countries. Also, many Communist and Marxist left Europe seeking America for a new start because Europe was broke and broken. Always follow the money. They state the US voters didn’t even know who Obama was as they did. They didn’t know who Romney was as Mr. Bilderberger and his NWO folks. All they needed to hear was Obama’s Hope and Change mantra and his speech in Cairo Egypt. He was just like their Socialist and Marxist minded leaders. Saying, “We know these liars all too well”. “They make more poor people by being professional fairy tale tellers to the ignorant”.
          How do these young Europeans make these statements with convictions? They read our Major News and Blog sites plus the comments that are made. They are convinced American governments are farming their own useful idiots and through the old school Marxist techniques in our school systems and adding to those yet to be farmed the Mexicans.
          Wow do they despise Stealthily FOX News. Saying FOX has such a wide audience and never ever tells the whole truth. yes they tell the other side but not completely. They always leave out who benefits and emphases who will get hurt. they are always misdirecting its viewers away from the important stuff that directly will affect them. boy do they know all about Sheriff Joe and Mike Zullo from YouTube videos and how our Marxist News Media has shunned them.
          France Italy and Spain have been there and seen this hope and Change shit get done. When the Algiers and Mideast Muslims came across their borders they brought diseases, no work ethics, no civilized civics and only their religion and promotion of a Sharia type government. There are more Mosques in France than churches now. The invaders are the new voter base for the Socialist governments. That is until they again run out of other peoples money. PS, Angela Merkel will have none of this and claim she will soon join the BRICS being tired of bailing out Europe.
          These young Europeans believe the 12th hour for us to correct our nation’s direction is all too near. They are watching intently for the results from our November elections as this will tell them if the socialist/Marxist Clintons will win 2016. these young Europeans have their favorite for the 2016 presidential elections, and it is someone we hear little about. Guess who it is.

      • gofer says:

        She talking about the terror of inner city murders?

      • gofer says:

        “….small group prone to violence.”

        In New York from January to June 2008, 83 percent of all gun assailants were black, according to witnesses and victims, though blacks were only 24 percent of the population. Blacks and Hispanics together accounted for 98 percent of all gun assailants. Forty-nine of every 50 muggings and murders in the Big Apple were the work of black or Hispanic criminals.

        But its the NRA and permit holders that are the evil ones. The left is terrified of open-carry since they just now the person is “prone to violence”.

        • Gail Combs says:


          You can not put a Communist Dictatorship in the USA as long as all those White Conservatives have guns. Black and Hispanic criminals are not a problem.

    • Gail Combs says:

      Photos of ring HERE

  6. Ed Martin says:

    Money is no problem with Phil Gramm as your senior economic and campaign advisor.

  7. Here is the larger conversation surrounding that snippet. The comments are amusing, too:

    ===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle

  8. schauminator says:

    Gail, you said in a previous response to Richard,
    Richard, It is not the same Russia. Putin is Darn Smart and therefore twice as dangerous. He is also not fooled by the Globalization crap. He is FOR RUSSIA and no one else.
    You can also add the rest of the BRICS to that statement as America has it’s eyes and mind wide shut. Isn’t it also odd that it is the BRICS that are friendly with the Disclosure Group for developing Free and Near Free Energy Technologies. But they are doing what they do in self defense for their countries due to the Dollar/Petro Dollar trade Cabal having a short life span because it has no tangible backing.

    • Gail Combs says:

      The BRICS countries are not stupid. They are developing their energy infrastructure as fast as they can while D.C. intentionally destroys ours.

      The Brics countries are also amassing gold.

      Gadhafi’s Gold-money Plan Would Have Devastated Dollar

      It remains unclear exactly why or how the Gadhafi regime went from “a model” and an “important ally” to the next target for regime change in a period of just a few years. But after claims of “genocide” as the justification for NATO intervention were disputed by experts, several other theories have been floated.

      Oil, of course, has been mentioned frequently — Libya is Africa‘s largest oil producer. But one possible reason in particular for Gadhafi’s fall from grace has gained significant traction among analysts and segments of the non-Western media: central banking and the global monetary system.

      According to more than a few observers, Gadhafi’s plan to quit selling Libyan oil in U.S. dollars — demanding payment instead in gold-backed “dinars” (a single African currency made from gold) — was the real cause. The regime, sitting on massive amounts of gold, estimated at close to 150 tons, was also pushing other African and Middle Eastern governments to follow suit.

      And it literally had the potential to bring down the dollar and the world monetary system by extension, according to analysts. French President Nicolas Sarkozy reportedly went so far as to call Libya a “threat” to the financial security of the world. The “Insiders” were apparently panicking over Gadhafi’s plan.

      “Any move such as that would certainly not be welcomed by the power elite today, who are responsible for controlling the world’s central banks,” noted financial analyst Anthony Wile, editor of the free market-oriented Daily Bell, in an interview with RT. “So yes, that would certainly be something that would cause his immediate dismissal and the need for other reasons to be brought forward [for] removing him from power.”

      According to Wile, Gadhafi’s plan would have strengthened the whole continent of Africa in the eyes of economists backing sound money — not to mention investors. But it would have been especially devastating for the U.S. economy, the American dollar, and particularly the elite in charge of the system….

      Now the BRIC countries are doing the same but unlike Gadhafi they have the teeth to back it up.

      World Bank to be hit with a BRIC (Good comments)

      • schauminator says:

        Your post is so much on point and I trust, because I know what you know, that you have or are considering what to do to protect yourself during these times of worldwide monetary reset.
        FYI; I have and it is all related to the mining of precious and rare metals and staple foods. And over the past 18 mos it has yielded what you would expect. Secured with growth.

        May you find ways to share what you know with as many people as possible. I believe you should do this with great confidence because knowledge can be powerful but only when it is shared with those willing to receive it. The willing to receive it part I find is sometimes is difficult unless you can factually debrief them. I know this well as I am one that gets shouted down during our local school board meetings when suggesting changes in American history and World history for what actually happened. It has become a sport for me at this point because I present facts that make many speak with a Tourette’s disorder.

    • ralphcramdo says:


      • schauminator says:

        I can’t wait until the Obots hear Michelle is a Tranny, their kids are adopter and Obama is a bone smoker and fecal sex seeker. I wonder when the news media will ask Michelle/Michael what he/she thinks of these conspiracy YouTube videos. As Joan says we all know.

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