The CO2 Centric Universe

In 1616, Pope Paul V weighed in on the important issue of geocentricism. Scientists who refused to admit that Earth was the center of the Universe paid a heavy price.

Four hundred years later Pope Francis has weighed in on the equally important issue of CO2centricism. He understands that 97% of scientists believe CO2 controls all phenomena, and overrides all other physical laws.

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  1. Good comparison.
    Both views are based on humanity’s perceived self importance. Neither view is proven true.

  2. gator69 says:

    The CO2 Centric Universe


    The Con-Centric UNiverse

    • inMAGICn says:

      Ah, ah, ah: look up “con” in French. And be wary.

    • Gail Combs says:

      The COâ‚‚N-Centric UNiverse

    • omanuel says:

      Thanks, Gator!

      There is reason to rejoice this New Year! Thanks to Climategate emails that surfaced five years ago, and the persistence of talented bloggers like Steven Goddard (aka Tony Heller), I foresee an end to the sixty-nine year tyrannical rule by Joseph Stalin and his Red Army of NAS/RS geophysicists that fabricated the “Red Matrix of Deceit” about stars and nuclei after forming the UN to “save the world” from annihilation on 24 Oct 1945.

      In 2015, I hope to see Mr. Putin and Mr. Obama teaching us how to pray to the Creator, Destroyer and Sustainer of every atom, life and world in the solar system!

  3. Pope Frank is an idiot – I am Catholic and have every right to state that. But your Galileo propaganda wears thin. The Church funded Copernicus who developed heliocentricity and did not publish for 20 years for fear of academics wedded to Ptolemaic universe. It funded and supported Galileo. When asked for proof of heliocentricity he replied ‘tides’. Apparently he hadn’t kept up with 30 yrs of Jesuit astronomical proof that the moon causes tides. It was Kepler – yet another Catholic- who developed the math for elliptical orbits not Galileo. The Church knew 1600 years before Saint Galileo that the earth was a small planet in the Universe. So what. There is a good argument that the Universe is anthropomorphic. The millions of variables to allow life will never exist outside this planet. Period.

    Hint; the propaganda of the [un]Enlightenment period should not be taken at face value. Most of the Enlightenment clowns had little new to offer and very little useful to say.

    • nielszoo says:

      So supporting him meant trial, house arrest and excommunication? Then, almost 4 centuries later, the Catholic Church says “whoops.. just kidding Galileo it was all Enlightenment propaganda and we were really on your side all along, you can get into Heaven now, we made a boo-boo back in 1633.” Really? I don’t doubt there are political biases in the historical account, but that’s kind of a big one. Dan Brown novel?

    • The fundemental conditions for life would appear abundant even within our own galaxy. Whether that life is as evolved as you is still undetermined.

    • omanuel says:

      Dogmatic religionists and dogmatic scientists are identical twins, simply hiding under different cloaks of respectability.

      Powerful, invisible force fields from the Sun’s pulsar core may have been mislabeled as spiritual forces, but I am aware of no scientific evidence that contradicts basic spiritual teachings of most religions.

      • Dave G says:

        Well-state. People being arrogantly dogmatic when they truly know so little about the universe or the original intent of their religious writings or about how climate really works, bring discredit to their respective side of their debates.

  4. Simon Platt says:

    Howdo you think the Pope weighed in in 1616?

  5. emsnews says:


    The Church most certainly did silence him. Kepler, like Martin Luther, was in a liberal part of Germany. I went to school in TĂĽbingen, Germany where Kepler published his revolutionary work and…this is the liberal town back then where Catholic/Protestant battles divided the university town exactly in two!

    I remember the two schools there. I went to the Protestant Gymnasium while Catholic girls went to the Catholic Gymnasium. People there told me in all seriousness, how their neighbors killed each other during the 30 Years Wars and still held grudges about that…in 1968!

    • Ben Vorlich says:

      Ulster/Ireland is divided on religious grounds, it also took 30 years of bloodshed (a generation) before they decided that rubbing along together was preferable to killing each other. Expect the so called Arab Spring to last at least as long. Hopefully nature will end the CO2 spring without adding to the death toll in less than 30 years.

  6. Andy Oz says:

    Pope announces CO2 is more powerful than the Almighty. I’ve heard of the God Delusion and now we have the CO2 delusion. The Catholic Church must be long carbon credits to come out with this. Also it distracts from the investigations into peadophiles and prepares the way for acceptance of other left wing dogmatic icons like Same Sex marriage and Abortion.
    It’s not the Church I knew as a child.

    • nielszoo says:

      All they need to do is replace “sin” with “CO2” and they can use their old indulgence paperwork. Update the price list and they’re in business. Don’t forget the Catholic Church is the oldest continually functioning bureaucracy in the world… whether that’s a good or bad thing, not too sure. (I was raised as a Methodist but did date a few Catholic girls back in the day.)

    • Gary Meyers in Ridgecrest says:

      It seems as though nothing is as it was, when I was a child. Look back and compare. What do you see?

  7. PeterK says:

    I heard the church needs money and by buying into this ‘truth’, instead of selling indulgences, they will be getting their share of ‘carbon credits’.

  8. Ron C. says:

    With the Pope on board, Global Warming Alarm is confirmed as a religious belief.

  9. Sparks says:

    Is this true about Pope Francis? What was his actual words on the subject?

  10. Sparks says:

    I find it hard to believe that Pope Francis believes humans cause “climate change” on a planetary scale.

      • Sparks says:

        Thanks, so the Pope didn’t actually say anything about humans causing global warming, it’s just more spin from the gardundhogning using quotes from some clerics at a political religious office (“chancellor of the Vatican’s Pontifical Academy of Sciences”), which seems to me, they were discussing poverty issues more than “climate change”. it’s all just BS.

        • glenncz says:

          Please don’t comment if you don’t bother to read the article.
          ” Climate change, the loss of biodiversity and deforestation are already showing their devastating effects in the great cataclysms we witness,” he said. (The POPE said)

          ” the pope will publish a rare encyclical on climate change and human ecology. Urging all Catholics to take action on moral and scientific grounds, the document will be sent to the world’s 5,000 Catholic bishops and 400,000 priests, who will distribute it to parishioners.”

        • Sparks says:

          I did read it, and the pope didn’t say that, a branch of the catholic church was quoted as saying that. Which is political religious propaganda BS as I said. There are various branches of Catholicism and some are more conservative than others, but you wont hear that from the ‘Grounhogdain’, and besides religion should stay out of trying to influence scientific matters, and the majority of Catholics believe this. It’s obvious the church is being dragged into a political ball game.And we should refrain from judgement until we have read this so called document! and its source, because obviously it’s not from the Pope himself.

        • mjc says:

          Sparks, basically it is ‘yet’. He will be publishing an encyclical on the subject. So until it is actually written, what he says is just speculation. But going by most everything else he has said, it’s quite likely the current quotes aren’t that far off the mark.

  11. Centinel2012 says:

    Reblogged this on Centinel2012 and commented:
    maybe the pope’s should stick to religion and but out of things he has no idea about.

  12. NancyG says:

    So separation of church and state isn’t necessary when the church spreads the propaganda of the state? I agree with those that feel the Pope shouldn’t get involved in politics.

    • Gail Combs says:

      Will the Catholic Church lose tax exempt status? Could get sticky.

      Political Activities
      The Restriction of Political Campaign Intervention by Section 501(c)(3) Tax-Exempt Organizations

      Under the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. Contributions to political campaign funds or public statements of position (verbal or written) made on behalf of the organization in favor of or in opposition to any candidate for public office clearly violate the prohibition against political campaign activity. Violating this prohibition may result in denial or revocation of tax-exempt status and the imposition of certain excise taxes.

      Certain activities or expenditures may not be prohibited depending on the facts and circumstances. For example, certain voter education activities (including presenting public forums and publishing voter education guides) conducted in a non-partisan manner do not constitute prohibited political campaign activity. In addition, other activities intended to encourage people to participate in the electoral process, such as voter registration and get-out-the-vote drives, would not be prohibited political campaign activity if conducted in a non-partisan manner.

      On the other hand, voter education or registration activities with evidence of bias that (a) would favor one candidate over another; (b) oppose a candidate in some manner; or (c) have the effect of favoring a candidate or group of candidates, will constitute prohibited participation or intervention.

      Legislative Activities

      In general, no organization may qualify for section 501(c)(3) status if a substantial part of its activities is attempting to influence legislation (commonly known as lobbying). A 501(c)(3) organization may engage in some lobbying, but too much lobbying activity risks loss of tax-exempt status.

      Legislation includes action by Congress, any state legislature, any local council, or similar governing body, with respect to acts, bills, resolutions, or similar items (such as legislative confirmation of appointive office), or by the public in referendum, ballot initiative, constitutional amendment, or similar procedure. It does not include actions by executive, judicial, or administrative bodies.

      An organization will be regarded as attempting to influence legislation if it contacts, or urges the public to contact, members or employees of a legislative body for the purpose of proposing, supporting, or opposing legislation, or if the organization advocates the adoption or rejection of legislation.

      Organizations may, however, involve themselves in issues of public policy without the activity being considered as lobbying. For example, organizations may conduct educational meetings, prepare and distribute educational materials, or otherwise consider public policy issues in an educational manner without jeopardizing their tax-exempt status.

      • Sparks says:

        Why does this government legislation (in your opinion) assume that the “Catholic Church” does not pay any tax?

        • Gail Combs says:

          Most churches in America have organized as “501c3 tax-exempt religious organizations.” This is a fairly recent trend that has only been going on for about fifty years. Churches were only added to section 501c3 of the tax code in 1954. . We can thank Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson for that. Johnson was no ally of the church. As part of his political agenda, Johnson had it in mind to silence the church and eliminate the significant influence the church had always had on shaping “public policy.”…

          That is why this move to get the Catholic Church involved in pimping for Obama could really backfire.

          Tuesday, October 8, 2002 Congress Refuses To Free Churches From Lyndon Johnson Gag Order

          By Rev. Louis P. Sheldon

          Chairman, Traditional Values Coalition

          Washington, DC – On October 2, the House of Representatives voted 178-239 to defeat the Houses of Worship Political Speech Protection Act (H.R. 2357) offered by Rep. Walter Jones (R-NC).

          H.R. 2357 was designed to revise IRS code to remove restrictions placed on churches and non-profit organizations in 1954 by then-Senator Lyndon Johnson. Prior to 1954, churches and non-profits had no such restrictions on their freedom of speech or their right to speak out in favor or against political issues or candidates.

          The history of this IRS gag order is instructive. It began with the fraudulent election of Johnson to the Senate in 1948. It has been well established by both conservative and liberal historians that Lyndon Johnson’s election to the Senate in 1948 was won by massive voter fraud. Known as “Landslide Lyndon,” this mean-spirited political operative was “elected” by only 87 votes. His challenger, Coke Stevenson challenged his election and presented credible evidence that hundreds of votes for Johnson had been faked. Johnson, however, was successful in blocking Stevenson’s effort by the clever use of court injunctions.

          In 1954, Johnson was facing re-election to the Senate and was being aggressively opposed by two non-profit anti-Communist groups that were attacking Johnson’s liberal agenda. In retaliation, Johnson inserted language into the IRS code that prohibited non-profits, including churches, from endorsing or opposing candidates for political office. In effect, this thoroughly corrupt man used the power of the IRS to silence his opposition. Unfortunately, it worked.

          The legislation proposed by Rep. Jones was designed to overturn Johnson’s vindictive gag order against his political opposition. There is no reason for this gag order to remain in effect, but Congress apparently thinks it must perpetuate bad public policy simply because it exists.

          Organizations like Americans United for the Separation of Church and State continue to claim that this Johnson gag order must be upheld to protect “church/state separation.” This is irrational and fails to take into account the entire history of religious freedom in the United States….

        • Sparks says:

          A straight forward answer would have been nice! Do you think that religious freedom makes you except from paying tax? Do you believe a “Holy Church” does not pay tax or something?

        • Gail Combs says:

          Also the Catholic Church is one of the biggest land holders in the USA.

          Another interesting tidbit. 2012 Absolutely Appalling…Obama Uses Banks to Control Catholic Church

          …. Billy Hallowell reported last week.

          “According to the State Department, the Vatican made the list because it is considered vulnerable to laundering and because it had recently put a program into place to prevent financial abuses,” he added.

          But much like JPMorgan’s decision to close the Milan account, some found the timing of the State Department’s inclusion of the Vatican on its “financial crimes” list a little odd: “Clearly, there are issues of concern, but the Catholic Church is taking measures to address these elements.”

          Were either of these decisions aimed at the Holy See’s finances really necessary?

          Considering the fact that the Catholic Church is currently engaged in a culture war with the Obama administration (and the world at large), a few critics believe we are witnessing much more than a mere pursuit of “financial transparency.”

          Huff ‘N Puff: Vatican Bank Account Closed At JP Morgan, Image May Be Hurt

          The Catholic Church is also a large business.

          The Catholic church is as big as any company in America. Bankruptcy cases have shed some light on its finances and their mismanagement
          …..Only three countries—Brazil, Mexico and the Philippines—have larger Catholic populations than America, and nowhere has a larger Catholic minority. Almost 100m Americans, a third of the nation, have been baptised into the faith and 74m identify themselves as Catholic. Discrimination against the Catholic minority, and strong leadership from Rome, encouraged American Catholics to create a sort of parallel society in the 19th and 20th centuries, [Well that certainly explains Obama’s trying to pressure the Catholic Church] with the result that there are now over 6,800 Catholic schools (5% of the national total); 630 hospitals (11%) plus a similar number of smaller health facilities; and 244 colleges and universities. Many of these institutions are known for excellence: seven of the leading 25 part-time law school programmes in America are Catholic (five are run by Jesuits). A quarter of the 100 top-ranked hospitals are Catholic. All these institutions are subject to the oversight of a bishop or a religious order.

          The Economist estimates that annual spending by the church and entities owned by the church was around $170 billion in 2010 (the church does not release such figures). We think 57% of this goes on health-care networks, followed by 28% on colleges, with parish and diocesan day-to-day operations accounting for just 6% and national charitable activities just 2.7% (see chart). In total, Catholic institutions employ over 1m people, reckons Fred Gluck, a former McKinsey managing partner and co-founder of the National Leadership Roundtable on Church Management, a lay organisation seeking to improve the way the church is run. For purposes of secular comparison, in 2010 General Electric’s revenue was $150 billion and Walmart employed roughly 2m people….

          Removing the Catholic Church’s Tax free status would really really hurt.

        • Sparks says:

          Remove the “Tax free status” of the Catholic Church, It will be able to pay it’s taxes on time… And There will still be freedom of religion.. Go back to worshipping Tax avoiders! who would walk all over you Gail.

        • Gail Combs says:

          Sparks You Specifically asked:

          “Why does this government legislation (in your opinion) assume that the “Catholic Church” does not pay any tax?”

          And I answered with the IRS Tax code that gives 501c3 ‘Tax Exempt’ status to churches.. Given the size of the Catholic Church (in the millions of dollars category) why ever would I think the Catholic church is NOT 501c3? Heck small churches and even individuals can apply for tax exempt status if they operate ‘not for profit’ entities.

          Actually your question does not even make any sense. The Churches were added to section 501c3 (Tax exempt section) of the tax code in 1954 via Johnson’s legislation. (Johnson was a democrat BTW) Prior to that according to my knowledge, the churches in the USA did not pay any tax anyway. Actually Churches do not even have to apply for 501c3 status because the IRS automatically categorizes them as 501c3.

          So, YES, the US government assumes the “Catholic Church” does not pay any tax — IF it does not meddle in politics!—- That was the whole point of Johnson’s legislation. To put strings on the tax exemption for churches so they were silenced.

          Look at the politics that was happening at the time:
          Less than ten years later, in two landmark decisions, Engel v. Vitale (1962) and Abington School District v. Schempp (1963), the US Supreme Court established the ban on prayer in schools. Seems like a darn good reason to make sure the Churches were silent.

          Then there was the whole abortion/birth control issue.
          Various anti-abortion laws have been on every state statute book since at least 1900. The Supreme Court 1973 decision Roe v. Wade invalidated all state laws banning abortion, and set guidelines for the availability of abortion.

          The Second International Congress of Eugenics, was in 1921. Also in 1921 Margaret Sanger, a Fabian Socialist, founded the American Birth Control League, which later became Planned Parenthood. In 1936 North Carolina became the first state to recognize birth control as a public health measure and to provide contraceptive services to indigent mothers through its public health program. North Carolina forcibly sterilized thousands of people between 1929 and 1976. The Eugenics Board of North Carolina (EBNC) was a State Board of the state of North Carolina formed in July 1933 by the North Carolina State Legislature. The Fabians Socialists (Progressives) were very much behind the Eugenics Movement. link

          Obviously there was plenty of reasons why Johnson wanted to kick US churches out of the political arena so the Progressive/Fabian Socialist agenda could move forward.

          …..Did the church ever need to seek permission from the government to be exempt from taxes? Were churches prior to 1954 taxable? No, churches have never been taxable. To be taxable a church would first need to be under the jurisdiction, and therefore under the taxing authority, of the government. The First Amendment clearly places the church outside the jurisdiction of the civil government: “Congress shall make NO LAW respecting an establishment of religion, nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”…

          In order to be considered for tax-exempt status by the IRS an organization must fill out and submit IRS Form 1023 and 1024. However, note what the IRS says regarding churches and church ministries, in Publication 557:
          Some organizations are not required to file Form 1023. These include:
          Churches, interchurch organizations of local units of a church, conventions or associations of churches, or integrated auxiliaries of a church, such as a men’s or women’s organization, religious school, mission society, or youth group. These organizations are exempt automatically if they meet the requirements of section 501(c)(3).
          Churches Are “Automatically Tax-Exempt”

          According to IRS Code § 508(c)(1)(A):
          Special rules with respect to section 501(c)(3) organizations.
          (a) New organizations must notify secretary that they are applying for recognition of section 501(c)(3) status.
          (c) Exceptions.
          (1) Mandatory exceptions. Subsections (a) and (b) shall not apply to—
          (A) churches, their integrated auxiliaries, and conventions or associations of churches.

          This is referred to as the “mandatory exception” rule. Thus, we see from the IRS’ own publications, and the tax code, that it is completely unnecessary for any church to apply for tax-exempt status. In the IRS’ own words a church “is automatically tax-exempt.”

      • nielszoo says:

        Gail, I don’t think Sparks understands the last 50 years of history where tax law and its unaccountable “enforcement” is the major weapon in the Progressives armory. Social engineering, Progressive style, must first destroy and and all support mechanisms it does not control, like church, family and open education… Obama’s thugocracy makes LBJ and the rest of the New Society look like pikers. Check this out:
        I assume that now it will be OK to steal from church bake sales and lift a few bucks from the collection plate with impunity now.

        • Gail Combs says:

          Either that or he has been sampling to much holiday cheer.

          Niel, You are correct about the IRS being a weapon.

      • mjc says:

        One counter argument, Gail.

        Jeremiah Wright. Al Sharpton. (I guess that’s 2…)

  13. Gail Combs says:

    Of interest: Angela Merkel’s Office Has Reportedly Been Hit By A Cyber Attack

    I had no problenm pulling up that article but it seems Business Insider is “..experiencing unexpected technical difficulties. Please wait a moment and refresh the page.”

    when I tried to post a comment on the South Carolina ‘Airport’

  14. Bottom line: without CO2, we wouldn’t be here.

  15. Dave G says:

    1. The Bible doesn’t say anything about the Earth being the center of the Universe.
    2. Even if it did, can anyone prove it’s not.

    • Olaf Koenders says:

      The Bible never did mention Geocentrism, it was simply an accepted notion in Europe and religion loved the narcissistic idea. However, the Bible has no basis in scientific fact whatsoever.

      I can prove the Earth is not the centre of the Universe:

      Think of the 3-dimensional area the Earth takes up in space, then multiply that by the number of all stars and planets in the Universe in the amount of Earth-sized area they accommodate, then do the same for all the empty space between them.

      The chance that Earth is at the centre of the Universe is an-impossibly-massive-number to 1.

      However, the Earth is at the centre of our observable Universe. For each passing year we can only see one light-year further into the Universe in every direction. What’s beyond that is yet to be discovered.

      • Dave G says:

        We only see three dimensions and assume a 4th. There may be many more. You didn’t prove that the Earth is not the center of the universe. You just said it’s extremely unlikely based on your understanding of the universe.

  16. Gail Combs says:

    Sparks says: “Remove the “Tax free status” of the Catholic Church, It will be able to pay it’s taxes on time… And There will still be freedom of religion.. Go back to worshipping Tax avoiders! who would walk all over you Gail.”

    What ever are you going on about?

    First I am an Agnostic. ALL I am saying is that the Catholic Church does not at this time pay tax per US LAW. However that law has strings attached because of a sleazy PROGRESSIVE, Lyndon B Johnson.

    Obama and the international bankers have been hassling the Catholic Church and now the Catholic Church has come out in support of Obama’s pet cause but if the Catholic Church pushes that cause in the USA it risks losing its tax free status and will have to pay thousands if not millions in taxes.

    Personally I find it absolutely hilarious. Hung by their own petard! Now if only the other churches and the Republicans will take advantage of the situation.— Either demand the Catholic Church pay tax or allow them the same freedom to mettle in politics. What a beautiful SNAFU!

    • Sparks says:

      Gail, What “Tax” does the Catholic Church not pay? and why are they apparently Tax exempt per US LAW?
      If Google Apple facebook microsoft and starbucks (to name a few) can get away without paying Tax, why not a Christian religion?

      • Gail Combs says:

        Sparks, I suggest you go take a couple of courses in US tax law and then return to the conversation.

      • Gail Combs says:

        OH, and if Google, Apple, Facebook, Microsoft and Starbucks have not paid any Tax, then I would make sure I dumped the stock in those companies because that is an indication they are failing.

        No Tax = No NET INCOME to be taxed and those are established companies. Very definitely not a good sign.

        • Sparks says:

          Why bother, Climate Change turns everything upside down and inside out anyway. It must be all the Popes fault now!

    • Pops says:

      “Hoist with”, not “Hung by” (Shakespeare).

  17. rah says:

    Ah hell. When they go after Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson for their tax evasion then I might believe something would be done about others.

  18. Beale says:

    Galileo’s condemnation was a tragedy, but the advance of science was barely checked. In the long run, it was the Catholic community that paid the heavy price.

    • omanuel says:

      The scientific revolution began with Copernicus’ quiet report in 1543 on the “fountain of energy” that sustains the Earth-Sun system.

      The scientific revolution ended with Joseph Stalin’s quiet recruitment of geophysicists in 1945 to construct a “RED MATRIX OF DECEIT” about energy in the Earth-Sun system.

      The good news for humanity tonight: The force fields from the Sun’s pulsar core are almost certainly the same spiritual forces our ancestors worshipped at the dawn of each new day!

      I.e., there is no conflict between science and spirituality, but there is much conflict between junk science and spirituality.

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