Time For Progressives To Put Their Money Where Their Mouth Is

Minnesotans believe that fossil fuels are burning them up. Tonight they should turn their fossil fuels off, and save the planet.

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38 Responses to Time For Progressives To Put Their Money Where Their Mouth Is

  1. philjourdan says:

    The Inuits can teach them how to live in igloos.

  2. Gail Combs says:

    “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” – H. L. Mencken and Steven Goddard

  3. Andy Oz says:

    I can see them all, gathered around their holy solar panel, holding hands and chanting….
    “Ohm. Save the Planet. Save the Planet. Ohm.”

    😀

  4. annieoakley says:

    I have many relatives from Bemidji. One would think they would embrace some warming.

  5. MrX says:

    I live in Canada. A warm planet is a prosperous planet. It was -21C today. The cold had a life of its own. It went right through your clothes and grabbed you by the balls. I’ll take global warming any day, thank you.

    But damn! If it was -28F, that’s -33C. That’s cold!

    • MrX says:

      Wait! That says wind chill forecast. -21C (-6F) where I’m at is NOT windchill. It’s actual temperature. Windchill was colder than any of those forecasts.

    • Beale says:

      Warmth is good for us, at least – by “us”, I mean Homo sapiens. We’ve learned to live in many climates, but by nature and genetics we are a tropical species.

  6. Truthseeker says:

    For those of us from parts of the world that are not the US, can someone explain the map of continental USA with the red and blue bits?

  7. Gail Combs says:

    Jerusalem is expecting cold weather ,winds, ice pellets and sand… sand? Up to two feet of snow in Israel. Saudi Arabia is also expecting freezing weather and snow

  8. ren says:

    This corresponds well with the circulation of the height 17 km. In winter it’s the polar vortex (stratosphere), controls the flow of air from the Arctic.
    http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/70hPa/orthographic=-90.28,74.09,419

  9. stpaulchuck says:

    Minnesota is condemned by the large city, much like NY and Illinois. The leftards over in Minneapolis all think they’re cool and progressive. They push the legislature into idiocies like a law forbidding any new nuclear construction, forever. They also mandated 20% “renewable” rubbish in our power supply mix.

    Without nukes that means a horizon blighted with windmills and solar farms. In a place where the sun doesn’t shine literally for weeks and the wind comes and goes randomly for days at a time. It gets so cold most of the windmill literally freeze up periodically as well.

    They think if they emulate NYC and the Left Coast then those folks will think Minnesotans are also cool. Yeah. Lots of luck with that.

    • Gail Combs says:

      “….They think if they emulate NYC and the Left Coast then those folks will think Minnesotans are also cool.”
      ……
      More like frozen than cool, as the electricity fails and Warren Buffet and Al Gore jack up the price of natural gas to astronomical levels. Of course New York is headed in the same direction as the NIMBYs stop Natural Gas pipelines and shut down coal. Nuclear is also targeted.

      Vermont’s only Nuclear Plant is shutting down.

      One of the two nuclear reactors at the Indian Point Energy Center shut down Wednesday morning after the system tripped for an unknown reason, officials said….Indian Point’s other nuclear reactor, Unit 2, remains in operation and has been online continuously for 148 days, Nappi said.

      Indian Point provides 2,000 megawatts of electric, which is about 25 percent of the power needs of New York City and Westchester County. The aging Westchester County facility has been targeted by Governor Andrew Cuomo for closure because of its proximity to New York City….
      http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/albany/2014/08/8550729/nuclear-reactor-indian-point-shuts-down

    • Citizen Cow says:

      The Wind Turbine in Faribault along I-35 has been idle for the past three days, during this cold spell. I observe it on my commute back and forth a 730 AM and 6 PM. I wonder how much it gets counted towards our state wind generation capacity.

  10. Eric Simpson says:

    Gov. Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown Touts Bogus Climate Change Fight.

    If these are the type of leftist fruitcakes that the warmists have on their side then I’d surmise that sanity lies with the skeptical side.

  11. Winnipeg Boy says:

    ex-pat Canadian living in MN. (the only sucker to move 300 miles south for this crappy weather).
    Politics here are dominated by liberals, and an old farmers union/labor union mentality that still permeates the landscape. DFL is the democrat arm here in MN. The blue in the iron range is labor union country. The farmers abandoned that nonsense long ago but ultimately it is the urbanites that have the numbers and vote red. Bleeding hearts. Lutheran Brotherhood (now Thrivent) immigration services is paid by the government to import tens of thousands of people. Automatic D vote. Want a head shake, investigate the federal budget for immigration services.

  12. Ernest Bush says:

    The blue in Arizona is mostly reservations, except Tucson. The University of Arizona sits right in the middle of it. The blue southern districts would shrink to nothing if they didn’t snake across the state to include Yuma. As it is, most of that southern blue is on the Colorado and Sonoran deserts which are practically empty of population. Not to mention the huge bombing range east of Yuma.

  13. Gail Combs says:

    In looking into the nuclear plant closing I found this.

    FORBES: 6 Nuclear Plants That Could Be Next To Shut Down

    It is an excellent example of economic trickery.

    …Nuclear isn’t dead, according to Morningstar analysts, but cheap natural gas has shuttered some plants and left others at risk….
    Utilities Observer report for November, “leading to speculation that prolonged low gas prices could drive more plant closures given the high maintenance capital investment requirements.”
    …Below is a list of operating nuclear plants that Morningstar analysts believe are most exposed to the possibility of closure….

    This has to be the oldest marketing scam in the book, perfected centuries ago. A few years ago I saw it happen in a town close to us.

    #1. Open a new store (This was a feed store)

    #2. Price goods well below market, attracting customers from the established small businesses. (I shop in several towns and the prices were much cheaper at this branch of the chain.)

    #3. Small businesses bankrupt.

    #4. Jack up prices well beyond market price to recoup losses and taking advantage of the captive market that you now OWN. Or at least think you do. In this case it didn’t work because farmers voted with their feet. That chain closed and another chain opened a couple years later with prices at the market level.

    This is the same game plan the giants in the Energy industry are playing. Lessons from the global warming industry

    Ged Davis was VP of Shell Oil when he was Ipcc lead author for scenarios. Of particular interest is his optimum scenario, Sustainable Development (B1) aka Agenda 21. No Nuclear, Coal and Oil phased out leaving Natural gas as the winner with ‘Green Energy’ also owned by BP, Shell and their internationalist buddies, as the big winners.

    From the climategate e-mails

    4. Sustainable Development (B1)

    The central elements of this scenario family include high levels of environmental and social consciousness, successful governance including major social innovation, and reductions in income and social inequality. Successful forms of governance allow many problems which are currently hard or difficult to resolve to fall within the competency of government and other organisations….. The concerns over global sustainable development, expressed in a myriad of environmental and social issues, results in the eventual successful management of the interaction between human activities and the biosphere…. Besides cleaning up air quality, there is emphasis on improving the availability and quality of water. [no doubt the coming scam – gc]
    .
    .
    .
    4.21 Energy Resources/Technology
    Energy efficiency innovations, and successful institutional innovations disseminating their use, result in much lower levels of energy use relative to historic patterns. The forward-looking nature of societal planning results in relatively smooth transitions to alternative energy systems as conventional oil and gas resources dwindle in availability. There is major use of unconventional natural gas as fuel supply during the transition, but the major push is towards renewable resources such as solar and wind. The impact of environmental concerns is a significant factor in the planning for new energy systems. Two alternative energy systems, leading to two sub-scenarios, are considered to provide this energy:
    1. Widespread expansion of natural gas, with a growing role for renewable energy (scenario B1N). Oil and coal are of lesser importance, especially post-2050. This transition is faster in the developed than in the developing countries.
    2. A more rapid development of renewables, replacing coal and oil; the bulk of the remaining energy coming from natural gas (scenario B1R).

  14. Gail Combs says:

    In case you doubt Ged Davis Scenario B1 is Agenda 21 note that while the ‘Governance’ section is conspicuous by its absence we do have this section:

    4.14 Communications, Settlement Patterns and Environment
    The social innovations and effective governance rest on high levels of communication, both in a passive (i.e. TV) and active sense. Governance systems reflect high levels of consent from those affected by decisions, and this consent arises out of active participation in the governance process. Settlement patterns arise from design, and tend to reflect a distributed, compact, city design structure. This results in high amenity levels, and the careful design and location of these cities results in a lessening of the natural disasters which plague many cities today. Advanced hazard warning systems and careful design limit the impact of such disasters. Low emission technologies, and careful management of land use, preservation of large tracts of land, and active intervention to counteract the impacts of imprudent societal actions strengthen the resilience of the ecological system.

    Lets take that section apart.

    4.14 Communications, Settlement Patterns and Environment
    The social innovations and effective governance rest on high levels of communication, both in a passive (i.e. TV) and active sense. Governance systems reflect high levels of consent from those affected by decisions, and this consent arises out of active participation in the governance process. [Think NGOs – gc]

    This is where all the brainwashing from the MSM comes in along with Common Core and NGOs. NGOs are ‘social innovations’ from Maurice Strong that have no voting by the members but who claim to ‘represent us.’ Oh and don’t forget the Scientific Societies that claimed to support CAGW without consulting their membership as well as the Delphi Technique for driving ‘public opinion’ to the ‘correct’ conclusion at ‘Listening Sessions’ and town meetings.

    Pascal Lamy lamented in a 2011 article. The reality is that, so far, we have largely failed to articulate a clear and compelling vision of why a new global order matters — and where the world should be headed.

    He noted in his article Global Governance: Lessons from Europe a key problem — Legitimacy

    …legitimacy depends on the closeness of the relationship between the individual and the decision-making process, the challenge of global governance is distance…. In sum, the specific challenge of legitimacy in global governance is to deal with the perceived too-distant, non-accountable and non-directly challengeable decision-making at the international level…

    In a speech at Oxford University Lamy is even more clear.

    I see four main challenges for global governance today.

    The first one is leadership, i.e. the capacity to embody a vision and inspire action, in order to create momentum…

    The second one is efficiency, i.e. the capacity to mobilize resources, to solve the problems in the international sphere….

    The third one is coherence, for the international system is based on specialization. Each international organization focuses on a limited number of issues… It is a fact: the UN is not really overarching, assuming this was the initial intention.

    The last challenge that I see is that of legitimacy — for legitimacy is intrinsically linked to proximity, to a sense of “togetherness”. By togetherness, I mean the shared feeling of belonging to a community. [Hence Maurice Strong’s brilliant idea of NGOs – gc] This feeling, which is generally strong at the local level, tends to weaken significantly as distance to power systems grows. It finds its roots in common myths, a common history, and a collective cultural heritage. It is no surprise that taxation and redistribution policies remain mostly local!….

    …..
    Back to Ged Davis and his B1 scenario.

    Settlement patterns arise from design, and tend to reflect a distributed, compact, city design structure. This results in high amenity levels, and the careful design and location of these cities results in a lessening of the natural disasters which plague many cities today. Advanced hazard warning systems and careful design limit the impact of such disasters.

    The carefully designed cities he is talking about are the Transit Cities. One is even now being built in Christchurch New Zealand

    Low emission technologies, and careful management of land use, preservation of large tracts of land, and active intervention to counteract the impacts of imprudent societal actions strengthen the resilience of the ecological system.

    Low emission technologies?
    Well we already know what that is, and can add:

    Micro-mini Apartments

    California Declares War on Suburbia: “Planners want to herd millions into densely packed urban corridors. It won’t save the planet but will make traffic even worse.
    ..Metropolitan area governments are adopting plans that would require most new housing to be built at 20 or more to the acre, which is at least five times the traditional quarter acre per house…”

    And this one I just love.
    The Bicycle: The Simple Tool for 21st Century Urban Sustainability from none other than CEOs for Cities

    careful management of land use?

    Well you do not have to look far to find a UN Document that tells us:

    The Vancouver Action Plan. D. Land 1976

    Preamble
    D.1 Land resource management
    D.2 Control of land use changes
    D.3 Recapturing plus value
    D.4 Public ownership
    D.5 Patterns of ownerships
    D.6 Increase in usable land
    D.7 Information needs
    1. Land, because of its unique nature and the crucial role it plays in human settlements, cannot be treated as an ordinary asset, controlled by individuals and subject to the pressures and inefficiencies of the market. Private land ownership is also a principal instrument of accumulation and concentration of wealth and therefore contributes to social injustice; if unchecked, it may become a major obstacle in the planning and implementation of development schemes. Social justice, urban renewal and development, the provision of decent dwellings-and healthy conditions for the people can only be achieved if land is used in the interests of society as a whole.

    2. Instead, the pattern of land use should be determined by the long-term interests of the community, especially since decisions on location of activities and therefore of specific land uses have a long-lasting effect on the pattern and structure of human settlements. Land is also a primary element of the natural and man-made environment and a crucial link in an often delicate balance. Public control of land use is therefore indispensable to its protection as an asset and the achievement of the long-term objectives of human settlement policies and strategies….

    http://www.un-documents.net/vp-d.htm

    preservation of large tracts of land, and active intervention to counteract the impacts of imprudent societal actions strengthen the resilience of the ecological system.

    That is just another way of saying The Wildlands Project.
    I have already written of the UN Biodiversity Treaty and Wildlands Project

    Since ratification of the UN Biodiversity Treaty was stopped at the last minute we instead have Obama’s Executive Order 13575 – Rural Lands Takeover

  15. Gail Combs says:

    Steve, I have a comment in moderation. I am sorry but I could see no way of writing it so it could be read without including all the links live..

    Even I did not realize Ged Davis’s section 4.14 Communications, Settlement Patterns and Environment was the plans for Agenda 21 in a single paragraph and that those plans, every single one of them that he mentions, are being implemented under our noses.

    Scary…

  16. u.k.(us) says:

    Those are wind chill temps….

    “There is no such thing as bad weather, only inappropriate clothing.” – Scandinavian proverb, attributed to Roald Amundsen.

  17. Peter says:

    Leading Australian Warmist Dr Tim Flannery used to go on about sea levels rising. Like Al Gore, he bought a sea level water front property. They call themselves know all experts, so I did too! Only a shack, but it’s great. Like them, I also like to fly around the place and travel (only coach), and eat what I want.
    Flannery was the one who convinced Australian Governments to build salt water to drinking water plants because it was never going to rain again. Shame it rained, and none of the plants are needed. Cost the taxpayers millions.

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