Michael Mann Doesn’t Trust Satellites Either

A few years ago, Mikey told us that he doesn’t trust tree rings after 1960. Now he says he doesn’t trust satellites either.

Some non-scientists who deny man-made global warming have pointed to satellite temperature records — which only go back to 1979 — which show a warming world, but no record this year and less of a recent increase than the longer-term ground thermometers. But Mann, Dessler, Francis and others say there have been quality and trustworthy issues with some satellite measurements and they only show what’s happening far above the ground. They said ground measurements are also more important because it is where we live.

My Way News – The heat is on; NOAA, NASA say 2014 warmest year on record

The only thing Mikey trusts is data which has been massively tampered with by his Real Climate buddies. The surface data is so reliable, that they had to do this :

NASASurfaceTemp1981-1999-2014

The whole idea of global warming is that CO2 warms the troposphere. But the troposphere isn’t warming, so the experts ignore it.

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39 Responses to Michael Mann Doesn’t Trust Satellites Either

  1. Dave says:

    “they only show what’s happening far above the ground”

    That’s right because SATAN and his HELL FIRE are under ground.

  2. AndyG55 says:

    “They said ground measurements are also more important because it is where we live.”

    These guys live in the US don’t they.

    Well , there has been no warming in the US since the USCRN was installed. !

    http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/temp-and-precip/national-temperature-index/time-series?datasets%5B%5D=uscrn&datasets%5B%5D=cmbushcn&parameter=anom-tavg&time_scale=p12&begyear=2005&endyear=2014&month=12

    Again I ask.. HOW is it possible for USHCN to match USCRN so precisely unless one or both is “juggled” to create that match. ( they are totally different networks aren’t they?)

    • AndyG55 says:

      If you run the linear trend numbers on USCRN, the USA is COOLING at 0.43F per decade.

    • AndyG55 says:

      In fact, it looks like the USA is cooling.

      Where are Gavin and Phil getting all their warming from ????????

      • Gail Combs says:

        The rear portion of their anatomy where the sun don’t shine but it is nice and warm.

        • There is no substitute for victory. says:

          “The rear portion of their anatomy where the sun don’t shine but it is nice and warm.”– Gail Combs

          Gail, are you speaking of Methane Gas caused global warming?

        • Gail Combs says:

          There is no substitute for victory,
          Gail, are you speaking of Methane Gas caused global warming?
          Yes!

        • AndyG55 says:

          Seriously Gail.. 🙂

          where are the values for calculating this warm 2014 coming from..

          Areas without thermometers ?

          Made up data from models ?

        • Gail Combs says:

          Andy, I was just being nice.

          To be blunt Gavin pulls the data out of his ARSE!

          More Than 40% Of USHCN Station Data Is Fabricated

          Visualizing How Corrupt GISS Has Become

        • AndyG55 says:

          The problem I have is that USHCN is showing a slight COOLING trend since 2005.

          Is the data that I have shown above different from the data Steven uses for USHCN?
          Is the USHCN data used for the GISS global calculation the same as shown above?

          Sorry, I’m just trying to get my head around this.
          USHCN is nearly a dead match for the new USCRN since 2005 (which I find totally strange),
          yet Steven says that a lot of very recent USHCN data is made up ?

          Just puzzled is all.

        • AndyG55 says:

          Seriously Steven,

          If the data fed into the global temperature calculation from the US is different from the USHCN (which shows a slight cooling trend), that would be a serious pointer to major phraud !!!

          I just don’t know how to find out.

  3. futuret says:

    WE HEAR FROM THESE SO CALLED SCIENTISTS OF DATA THAT HAS BEEN CORRUPTED AND CRIMINALIZED, SATELLITES; INCLUSIVE OF, NEW PROJECTS, BUT WE NEVER HEAR OF ACTUAL ACTIVITIES IN NATURE THAT IS PRODUCING THE DATA. GEE I WONDER WHY???

    http://lissakr11humane.com/2015/01/16/underwater-volcano-erupts-to-turn-the-sea-blood-red-and-the-sky-grey-with-ash/

  4. gator69 says:

    “… satellite temperature records — which only go back to 1979…”

    Early and inconvenient satellite data deniers.

  5. jeo says:

    Serious question: Are the datasets available to reconstruct the charts from 1981, 1999, and 2014? Although the animated gif is nice, it would be nicer to present the actual data and modern charts.

  6. Dave N says:

    I guess then he won’t be believing the hoohaa over sea-ice, which they use data only from 1979?

  7. AndyG55 says:

    Incidentally,

    Here is the trend map since 2001 (end of 1998 El Nino)
    The only place where there is a marked trend is where there are no themometers.

    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?sat=4&sst=1&type=trends&mean_gen=0112&year1=2001&year2=2014&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=1200&pol=rob

  8. Gee, why do so many posts contain the words Mann & trust?

  9. If the surface is warming the troposphere has to be warming. If the troposphere is not warming the surface can’t be.

    All surface warming is an artifact of the Urban Heat Island effect

    • Their answer is, “the heat is going into the oceans” so I will reiterate by previous statement.

      1. If the surface and oceans are warming, the troposphere has to be warming.
      2. If the troposphere is not warming, the surface and oceans can’t be.

  10. SMS says:

    Obvious statement. If it does not fit into Michael Mann’s belief system; then he’s not going to believe it. No matter how solid the evidence, his belief system is just too solidly formed to change.

    • rah says:

      Breaking news; i don’t believe in Micheal Mann! I don’t believe he has ever created anything worth anything or at least I’ve never seen anything that he has. I don’t believe he has spent very much time living in the wild on the face of this earth who’s climate he claims to understand. In fact I don’t believe that over weight, pasty faced, ivory tower, city slicker could make it for a week in the Green or White mountains living out of a rucksack and moving even 10 K a day right now. Prove me wrong Michel. I’ll take you there right now this winter and be there when your cry uncle.

  11. northernont says:

    Expect the Orbiting Carbon Observatory satellite to be soon ignored also.

  12. rah says:

    Lava soap. There is nothing that says a man is a working man than finding a bar of lava soap next to his sink. It cleans the un-cleanable off ones hands. It even does a good job of getting RTV silicone off ones hands. How come I always feel I need to use it when ever I read or write something about Micheal Mann?

  13. AndyG55 says:

    Here’s another thing of interest.

    If you look at the 2013-14 wft graphs, you see just how hard Gavin and Phil have been working to CREATE this “warmest ever” in GISS/HadCrut.

    http://woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:2013/plot/rss/from:2013/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:2013/trend/plot/rss/from:2013/trend/plot/uah/from:2013/plot/uah/from:2013/trend/plot/gistemp/from:2013/plot/gistemp/from:2013/trend

    Note that Gavin took over from Jimmy in mid 2013, if you go back a few more years on the graph, you can see that is almost exactly where the trend divergence from the satellite record started.

  14. hannuko says:

    I heard the excuse that “satellite measurements measure the temperature from too high up” from Ari Jokimäki of Skeptical science like a month ago. They really are interconnected little buggers.

    It was ridiculous then and it is ridiculous now to claim that it is more accurate to measure the temperature at the height of two meters at thousand km’s away, than to measure the temperature at location but a few hundred meters up.

    The people at SkS are like ants. Individually they have a brain of an insect, but since there are many of them, they collectively form something that resembles intelligence. And since there are many of them, they can repeat these brainfarts everywhere. And they are fanatical enough to repeat them endlessly, right until they come up with the next excuse.

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