Global Warming Conspiracy Theorists

Naomi Oreskes of Harvard believes that there is a giant big tobacco/big oil conspiracy of paid skeptics trying to destroy the planet. She has a loyal following in the academic community and the press, who are somehow too lame to actually contact skeptics like myself and find out that she is a wildly paranoid loon.

Other conspiracy nutcases include people who believe the moon landing was faked, based on evidence like this.

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They argue that the shadows must have been from a local light source, because the guy closer to the light has a longer shadow. These geniuses are too stupid to understand that a local light source would have the exact opposite effect – the further person would have the longer shadow.

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The astronaut on the right in the NASA photograph has a longer shadow because he is standing near the top of the hill, and the one on the left is standing near the bottom of the hill.

Other idiots believe that the World Trade Center towers were brought down by an implosion generated by explosives near the ground floor – even though they can see that the towers collapsed from the top down.

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And then there are whack jobs Kook and Nuttercelli who believe that the 1970’s global cooling scare never happened. Even though every single science organization and major news organization signed off on it.

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National Academy Of Sciences  Science News

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The Milwaukee Sentinel – Google News Archive Search

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SCIENTISTS AGREE WORLD IS COLDER – – NYTimes.com

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TimesMachine: July 18, 1970 – NYTimes.com

Every major climate organization endorsed  the ice age scare, including NCAR, CRU, NAS, NASA – as did the CIA.

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Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide and Aerosols: Effects of Large Increases on Global Climate

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The Windsor Star – Google News Archive Search

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International Team of Specialists Finds No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend in Northern Hemisphere – View Article – NYTimes.com

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Climate Changes Endanger World’s Food Output  NYTimes.com

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31 May 1975 

http://news.google.com/newspapers/

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Lakeland Ledger – Google News Archive Search

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Climatologists Forecast Stormy Economic Future – Climatologists Forecasting Dire Effects of Weather on World Economy and Social Order – View Article – NYTimes.com

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The Bryan Times

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The Spokesman-Review – Google News Archive Search

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Problems From Climate Changes Foreseen in a 1974 C.I.A Report – View Article – NYTimes.com

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The Genesis Strategy – A chilling prospect – View Article – NYTimes.com

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FORECAST FOR – FORECASTING – CLOUDY In the long term, climate is cooling off-or is it warming up? As for tomorrow’s weather, even the world’s biggest computer can’t sayfor sure what it will be. Forecasting ‘ A really accurate three-day weather forecast would result in savings of $86-million a year just for growersof wheat in the state of Wisconsin.’ – View Article – NYTimes.com

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…That’s the News. And Now for San Juan’s Weather… – View Article – NYTimes.com

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ICE AGES ATTRIBUTED TO EARTH ORBIT SHIFT – Scientists Find Periodic Changes in Path Around Sun ‘Positive Test’ of Climatic Theory – View Article – NYTimes.com

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Middlesboro Daily News – Google News Archive Search

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The Milwaukee Journal – Google News Archive Search

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Science – Worrying About a New Ice Age – View Article – NYTimes.com

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The Deseret News – Google News Archive Search

In the last decade, the Arctic ice and snow cap has expanded 12 per cent, and for the first time in this century. ships making for Iceland ports have been impeded by drifting ice.

Chicago Tribune Mar 2, 1975

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CIA Report 1974

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PQ Archiver – ChicagoTribune.com

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Climatologists Forecast Stormy Economic Future – Climatologists Forecasting Dire Effects of Weather on World Economy and Social Order – View Article – NYTimes.com

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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,910467,00.html

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http://www.wmconnolley.org.uk/sci/iceage/ny-times-1975-05-21.pdf

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Lawrence Journal-World – Google News Archive Search

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http://www.amazon.com/Cooling-Has-Next-Already-Begun/dp/013172312X

Monday, Jan. 31, 1977
WEATHER: The Big Freeze
Why had the rain turned white? Startled millionaires wintering in their baronial mansions in West Palm Beach, Fla., peered closer last week at the miracle that was falling from the skies and discovered—could it be?—yes, the substance was snow, the first ever reported there. Since mid-November, pedestrians in Dallas, unaccustomed to such hazards, have been slipping on sleet-slicked sidewalks. Meanwhile, a series of blizzards has smothered Buffalo this winter with an astonishing 126.6 in. of snow.

From the Dakotas and Minnesota, across the icy Great Lakes of the Middle West and down…

http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,918620,00.html

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Climate Change and its Effect on  World Food

by Walter Orr Roberts  Aspen Institute for Humanistic Studies, andNational Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, Colorado

In February of 1972 earth-orbiting artificial satellites revealed the existence of a greatly increased area of the snow and ice cover of the north polar cap as compared to all previous years of space age observations. Some scientists believe that this may have presaged the onset of the dramatic climate anomalies of 1972 that brought far-reaching adversities to the world’s peoples. Moreover, there is mounting evidence that the bad climate of 1972 may be the forerunner of a long series of less favorable agricultural crop years that lie ahead for most world societies. Thus widespread food shortages threaten just at the same time that world populations are growing to new highs. Indeed, less favorable climate may be the new global norm. The Earth may have entered a new “little ice age”

There are strong signs that these recent climate disasters were not random deviations from the usual weather, but instead signals of the emergence of a new normal for world climates.

If we are, indeed, experiencing a worsening  of world climates it is, perhaps, equal in  severity to any within the last millenium.  The arguments for this view were developed  by several of the climatologists who attended  an international workshop on climate and  its effects on human life convened in  May 1974 in Bonn, Germany.

At this meeting Profs. H. Flohn of Germany,  H.H. Lamb of the United Kingdom and  Reid Bryson of the United States developed  a highly persuasive demonstration that there  has been a steady cooling of northern  hemisphere temperatures during the last  30 years, with the strongest cooling at the  higher latitudes.

www.iaea.org/Publications/Magazines/Bulletin/Bull165/16505796265.pdf

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The Canberra Times   Thursday 16 May 1974

NEW YORK, Wednesday (AAP). — Weather satellites sweeping across the northern hemisphere have come up with a surprise: the permanent snow and ice  cap has increased sharply, Associated Press reported. The finding is cited as one more indication of what some climatologists believe to be a basic change in the world’s climate, a cooling

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Mountain Mail – Google News Archive Search

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168 Responses to Global Warming Conspiracy Theorists

  1. gator69 says:

    Pure gold! The only thing missing is ocean acidification and rising sea levels, otherwise the threats of impending doom read virtually the same as global warming. Pure madness.

  2. omanuel says:

    I know man went to the Moon and collected samples because the systematic enrichment of lightweight isotopes revealed by analysis of solar-wind implanted elements in lunar soils proved that lightweight elements like H and He were enriched in the photosphere by mass-fractionation and disproved the SSM (Standard Solar Model) of H-filled stars.

    I also remember personally reading about the Coming Ice Age in routine news reports and on the covers of Time & Newsweek.

    • omanuel says:

      Who is Naomi Oreskes of Harvard?

      A Professor of the History of Science, Earth and Planetary Sciences?

      If so, she probably believes every part of the BIG LIE promoted by the Pope Pious and Joseph Stalin after uniting nations (UN) and national and pontifical academies of science (NAS & PAS) on 24 October 1945:

      BBC (Big Bang Cosmology):In the beginning, nothing exploded in a Big Bang and produced hydrogen (H) that condensed and fused into everything.

      SSM (Standard Solar Model): Interstellar hydrogen gravitationally collapsed into H-fusion reactors (stars), and . . .

      SPM (Standard Planetary Model): Planets of hydrogen that geo-chemically differentiated into rocky, iron-rich planets that lost almost all of the H to space, like the four inner planets in the solar system.

      SNM (Standard Nuclear Model): Of only attractive short-range nuclear forces plus a single, repulsive, Coulomb, long-range force between positive charges on protons.

      The US NAS (National Academy of Sciences) established the AGU (American Geophysical Union) to promote these falsehoods as consensus science.

      • omanuel says:

        Correction:

        SSM (Standard Solar Model): Interstellar hydrogen (H) collapsed into H-fusion reactors (stars like the Sun) that served as a constant heat source and cause no climate change for planets like Earth.

        AGW (Anthropological Global Warming): Is easy to see because the Sun is a constant source of energy from H-fusion.

        SPM (Standard Planetary Model): Early planets near the Sun lost most of their hydrogen and chemically differentiated silicates from the iron that sank to the planet’s core leaving a silicate mantle.

        SNM (Standard Nuclear Model): Powerful, short-range nuclear forces are attractive. The only force of repulsive in the nucleus is the long-range Coulomb force between positive (+) charges on protons.

        The US NAS (National Academy of Sciences) established the AGU (American Geophysical Union) to promote these falsehoods as consensus science.

  3. Quinn the Eskimo says:

    Well done. Very impressive collection.

  4. Steve Case says:

    Clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap!!!!!!!

  5. Ben Vorlich says:

    Steve,
    this list is bookmarked for future reference. It will be sent to my new/re-elected MP after the UK election.

  6. cheshirered says:

    So apart from a welter of actual observed evidence, what else have you got?

  7. sfx2020 says:

    I’m getting tired of people demanding facts and using evidence. It’s too important an issue to use facts.

  8. The WTC was brought down by George Bush Jr who planted 40 innocent moslems on those planes to take the blame, just so he could have an excuse to start a war. He paid Osama Bin Laden to say he did it, because nobody would have believed Saddam would do such a thing.

    Proof that the WTC were brought down by Bush is, they should have fallen over to the side like a tree. When you chop a tree down, does it fall straight down into a pile of tooth picks? No, it falls to the side. The WTC would have tipped over into the Hudson if real airplanes hit them.

  9. Hugh K says:

    Bet the house we won’t be seeing this archival collection on The Daily Show. Why is that Jon?

    Incredible display Tony — Hence the necessity for NOAA/NASA/NCDC to change the global temperature historical record. At some point, I imagine the ‘adjusted’ data will be all that is left (pun intended).
    Still…..got to give kudos to the left for learning from the past – Shitty at science but no one comes close in their ability to deceive.

  10. jdseanjd says:

    Don’t forget WTC Building 7, another perfectly controlled demolition.
    2 planes cannot cause 3 perfect demolitions.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MoIQ3Ic0CE
    Or, put in search box: 9/11 Truth v BBC (court case 25/2/13/) – Tony Rooke

    8.05 mins.

    Bush’s big mouth cannot abolish Newton’s laws of gravity.

    • gator69 says:

      FACT: Many conspiracy theorists point to FEMA’s preliminary report, which said there was relatively light damage to WTC 7 prior to its collapse. With the benefit of more time and resources, NIST researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated. “The most important thing we found was that there was, in fact, physical damage to the south face of building 7,” NIST’s Sunder tells PM. “On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom—approximately 10 stories—about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out.” NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7’s upper stories and its southwest corner.
      NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research. But NIST’s analysis suggests the fall of WTC 7 was an example of “progressive collapse,” a process in which the failure of parts of a structure ultimately creates strains that cause the entire building to come down. Videos of the fall of WTC 7 show cracks, or “kinks,” in the building’s facade just before the two penthouses disappeared into the structure, one after the other. The entire building fell in on itself, with the slumping east side of the structure pulling down the west side in a diagonal collapse.
      According to NIST, there was one primary reason for the building’s failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. “What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors,” Sunder notes, “it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down.”
      There are two other possible contributing factors still under investigation: First, trusses on the fifth and seventh floors were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another. With columns on the south face apparently damaged, high stresses would likely have been communicated to columns on the building’s other faces, thereby exceeding their load-bearing capacities.
      Second, a fifth-floor fire burned for up to 7 hours. “There was no firefighting in WTC 7,” Sunder says. Investigators believe the fire was fed by tanks of diesel fuel that many tenants used to run emergency generators. Most tanks throughout the building were fairly small, but a generator on the fifth floor was connected to a large tank in the basement via a pressurized line. Says Sunder: “Our current working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time.”
      WTC 7 might have withstood the physical damage it received, or the fire that burned for hours, but those combined factors—along with the building’s unusual construction—were enough to set off the chain-reaction collapse.

      http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/

  11. sfx2020 says:

    Most people are idiots. No, they really are.

  12. jdseanjd says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWlKHciXpro
    Or, put in search box: Tony Farrell : British Whistle Blower Fired for Exposing 7/7 9/11 as “state sponsored terror” 1/3

    15.20 mins.

  13. jdseanjd says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0LG83Fc7Us
    Or, put in search box: Dr. Judy Wood explains DUSTIFICATION re NYC WTC on 9/11

    12.17 mins

  14. jdseanjd says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fvJ8nFa5Qk
    Or, put in search box: Pentagon attack – Behind the Smoke Curtain – Barbara Honeger

    3 hrs 5 mins

  15. Joseph says:

    The skeptical science crowd says that the cooling scare was driven by the media and that a majority (sound familiar?) of the climate scientists at the time were predicting warming.

  16. jdseanjd says:

    http://www.ae911truth.org

    Architects & Engineers for 9/11 truth.

  17. jdseanjd says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgrunnLcG9Q
    Or, 9/11 – The Truth In 5 Minutes – James Corbett

  18. jdseanjd says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDOPsl0-Po
    Or, US government to unleash trolls to attack conspiracy theorist redsilverj

  19. jdseanjd says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vadSaWyiozg
    Or, Dr. Judy Wood: Evidence of breakthrough energy technology on 9/11
    2 hrs 25 mins.
    No 9/11 seismic record, because the building were turned to dust clouds, which blew away.
    A new energy weapon?

  20. jdseanjd says:

    scgnews.com
    & take your pick.

      • jdseanjd says:

        http://www.voltairenet.org/article187030.html
        Zionism is a continuation of Brit hegemony policy, & US Govt funds individuals to disrupt the forum websites of conspiracy theorists & to create groups to contradict them.

        • gator69 says:

          Of course! They started by funding Muhammad in the sixth century! 😆

        • jdseanjd says:

          Maybe “They” started way earlier than that. Perhaps “They” applied the Imperialist strategy: divide & conquer, divide & rule back in pre-biblical times?
          Book: Pawns in the Game, by William Guy Carr.

        • gator69 says:

          Was it these guys?

        • gator69 says:

          People with paranoid personality disorder (PPD) have long-term, widespread and unwarranted suspicions that other people are hostile, threatening or demeaning. These beliefs are steadfastly maintained in the absence of any real supporting evidence. The disorder, whose name comes from the Greek word for “madness,” is one of ten personality disorders described in the 2000 edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders , (the fourth edition, text revision or DSM-IVTR ), the standard guidebook used by mental health professionals to diagnose mental disorders.

          http://www.minddisorders.com/Ob-Ps/Paranoid-personality-disorder.html#ixzz3Z6gMBOVt

        • jdseanjd says:

          You do realise, of course, that a favourite Stalinist tactic, when presented with people of opposing & inconvenient views, especially those who could cogently present their views & back them up, was to section them as mentally unfit?
          You reveal yourself.

        • gator69 says:

          Thanks for confirming Dr Gator’s diagnosis. 😉

        • jdseanjd says:

          How dare Ahmadinejad speak 9/11 truth.
          Most US politicians, bureaucrats, police, army & trolls are too dumb to realise that they are only part of the Rothschild Central Bankster Empire. Iran is not. Nor is N. Korea, or Russia & Hungary. Who is demonised & attacked in the Bankster/Corporate MSM? Any who try to leave the bankster empire are demonised in the controlled press & media & bombed & invaded.
          http://www.politicalvelcraft.org

        • gator69 says:

          Yep! You are as batshit crazy as he is. And the really sad thing is, that some of the things you talk about are true, but you ruin your crdeibilty by painting everything as a conspiracy.

          Keep ranting, I’ve got the popcorn! 😆

        • jdseanjd says:

          http://www.wakeup-world.com/2014/08/05/agenda-21-the-plans-for-a-global-fascist-dictatorship/
          A big enough conspiracy theory for you?
          The Hunger Games is where they’re herding us.

        • gator69 says:

          Of course they are! But Yoda will save us if we follow the Yellow Brick Road!

          Agenda 21 is real, but you are again, are ruining your credibility by painting everythig as extreme conspiracies. Get a grip.

        • jdseanjd says:

          Like I said, Troll, disprove a single remark I’ve made. It’s called the scientific method.

        • gator69 says:

          I already have, and you dismissed it.

          I am here because I am a skeptic of CAGW, and I do not consider everything to be grand conspiracies.

          You are a conspiracy nut who is damaging the reputation of the rest of us. Get a grip.

        • jdseanjd says:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYlVXw4RPqg
          Or: 10 conspiracy theories that turned out to be true!
          6.50 mins.
          Look up operation paperclip
          operation Gladio.
          & remind me where you disproved me, liar.

        • gator69 says:

          Yes, there are conspiracies. But there are also attacks from outside as well.

          Seek help.

        • gator69 says:

          You can’t reason someone out of something that he didn’t get into by using reason in the first place. That’s why it’s so difficult to refute conspiracy theories with logic. This is especially relevant given the way that conspiracies spread in the Internet age.

          It starts out with a cuckoo theory promoted by crazy people and integrity-free professional con men who pump every conspiracy that comes down the line. The crazy people push the conspiracy theory because they’re paranoid and don’t understand how the world works while the sleazy hucksters promote it because conspiracies sell on the web. Eventually, as the conspiracy starts to draw a crowd, more imitators pop up and the crazies and flimflam men create a vast web of references to each other.

          http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2011/04/05/10_questions_for_911_truthers/page/full

        • jdseanjd says:

          So far, Troll, you’ve used derision & accusations, no logic, no reason.
          Conspiracies don’t get any bigger than this:
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN7mQ1u230I
          Or: Agenda 21’s Globalist death plan for Humanity
          51 mins, Lord Monckton.

        • gator69 says:

          So your logic being, if agenda 21 is real (which it is), then everything is a conspiracy.

          Seek help.

        • jdseanjd says:

          I help myself by reading widely, thank you, Troll. Disprove a single thing I’ve said.

        • gator69 says:

          FACT: Many conspiracy theorists point to FEMA’s preliminary report, which said there was relatively light damage to WTC 7 prior to its collapse. With the benefit of more time and resources, NIST researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated. “The most important thing we found was that there was, in fact, physical damage to the south face of building 7,” NIST’s Sunder tells PM. “On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom—approximately 10 stories—about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out.” NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7’s upper stories and its southwest corner.
          NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research. But NIST’s analysis suggests the fall of WTC 7 was an example of “progressive collapse,” a process in which the failure of parts of a structure ultimately creates strains that cause the entire building to come down. Videos of the fall of WTC 7 show cracks, or “kinks,” in the building’s facade just before the two penthouses disappeared into the structure, one after the other. The entire building fell in on itself, with the slumping east side of the structure pulling down the west side in a diagonal collapse.
          According to NIST, there was one primary reason for the building’s failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. “What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors,” Sunder notes, “it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down.”
          There are two other possible contributing factors still under investigation: First, trusses on the fifth and seventh floors were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another. With columns on the south face apparently damaged, high stresses would likely have been communicated to columns on the building’s other faces, thereby exceeding their load-bearing capacities.
          Second, a fifth-floor fire burned for up to 7 hours. “There was no firefighting in WTC 7,” Sunder says. Investigators believe the fire was fed by tanks of diesel fuel that many tenants used to run emergency generators. Most tanks throughout the building were fairly small, but a generator on the fifth floor was connected to a large tank in the basement via a pressurized line. Says Sunder: “Our current working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time.”
          WTC 7 might have withstood the physical damage it received, or the fire that burned for hours, but those combined factors—along with the building’s unusual construction—were enough to set off the chain-reaction collapse.

          http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/

          And the name is Gator, nutcase. 😆

        • jdseanjd says:

          Now you’re just repeating your stupidities, Troll.

        • gator69 says:

          Right. Like I said, you are nuts.

        • jdseanjd says:

          & you, dimbrain, have little more than name calling in your repertoire. 🙂
          http://www.outsiderclub.com/ron-paul-do-we-live-in-a-police-state/768

        • gator69 says:

          you, dimbrain, have little more than name calling in your repertoire.

          Project much? 😆

          So Ron Paul saying we have a police state proves 911 was an inside job? Got it!

        • jdseanjd says:

          Again, dimbrain, it proves the CAGW nonsense is not the only conspiracy around.

        • gator69 says:

          Yes, got it. Everything is a conspiracy.

      • the religion of pieces

  21. jdseanjd says:

    http://www.ukcolumn.org/article/who-enemy
    Islamic fundamentalism is Brit foreign policy.

    • gator69 says:

      People with paranoid personality disorder (PPD) have long-term, widespread and unwarranted suspicions that other people are hostile, threatening or demeaning. These beliefs are steadfastly maintained in the absence of any real supporting evidence. The disorder, whose name comes from the Greek word for “madness,” is one of ten personality disorders described in the 2000 edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders , (the fourth edition, text revision or DSM-IVTR ), the standard guidebook used by mental health professionals to diagnose mental disorders.

      http://www.minddisorders.com/Ob-Ps/Paranoid-personality-disorder.html#ixzz3Z6gMBOVt

      Seek help.

  22. gator69 says:

    Protected: The Catholic Empire Strikes Back
    Posted on May 11, 2014
    This content is password protected. To view it please enter your password below:

    Super secret stuff? 😆

  23. higley7 says:

    The shadow of the right astronaut might be longer than the guy on the left was on higher ground, but ALSO the flag is being added to the top of the right guy’s shadow. Why does everybody miss that?

  24. gator69 says:

    The Pentagon
    At 9:37 am on 9/11, 51 minutes after the first plane hit the World Trade Center, the Pentagon was similarly attacked. Though dozens of witnesses saw a Boeing 757 hit the building, conspiracy advocates insist there is evidence that a missile or a different type of plane smashed into the Pentagon.
    Big Plane, Small Holes
    Claim: Two holes were visible in the Pentagon immediately after the attack: a 75-ft.-wide entry hole in the building’s exterior wall, and a 16-ft.-wide hole in Ring C, the Pentagon’s middle ring. Conspiracy theorists claim both holes are far too small to have been made by a Boeing 757. “How does a plane 125 ft. wide and 155 ft. long fit into a hole which is only 16 ft. across?” asks reopen911.org, a Web site “dedicated to discovering the bottom line truth to what really occurred on September 11, 2001.”The truth is of even less importance to French author Thierry Meyssan, whose baseless assertions are fodder for even mainstream European and Middle Eastern media. In his book The Big Lie, Meyssan concludes that the Pentagon was struck by a satellite-guided missile—part of an elaborate U.S. military coup. “This attack,” he writes, “could only be committed by United States military personnel against other U.S. military personnel.”

    Hole Truth: Flight 77’s landing gear punched a 12-ft. hole into the Pentagon’s Ring C. (Photograph by Department of Defense)
    FACT: When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon’s exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings.
    Why wasn’t the hole as wide as a 757’s 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn’t punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon’s load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. “If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building,” Sozen tells PM, “it didn’t happen.”
    The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide—not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet’s landing gear, not by the fuselage.
    Intact Windows
    Claim: Many Pentagon windows remained in one piece—even those just above the point of impact from the Boeing 757 passenger plane. Pentagonstrike.co.uk, an online animation widely circulated in the United States and Europe, claims that photographs showing “intact windows” directly above the crash site prove “a missile” or “a craft much smaller than a 757” struck the Pentagon.
    FACT: Some windows near the impact area did indeed survive the crash. But that’s what the windows were supposed to do—they’re blast-resistant.
    “A blast-resistant window must be designed to resist a force significantly higher than a hurricane that’s hitting instantaneously,” says Ken Hays, executive vice president of Masonry Arts, the Bessemer, Ala., company that designed, manufactured and installed the Pentagon windows. Some were knocked out of the walls by the crash and the outer ring’s later collapse. “They were not designed to receive wracking seismic force,” Hays notes. “They were designed to take in inward pressure from a blast event, which apparently they did: [Before the collapse] the blinds were still stacked neatly behind the window glass.”

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5659/debunking-911-myths-pentagon/

  25. gator69 says:

    The White Jet
    Claim: At least six eyewitnesses say they saw a small white jet flying low over the crash area almost immediately after Flight 93 went down. BlogD.com theorizes that the aircraft was downed by “either a missile fired from an Air Force jet, or via an electronic assault made by a U.S. Customs airplane reported to have been seen near the site minutes after Flight 93 crashed.” WorldNetDaily.com weighs in: “Witnesses to this low-flying jet … told their story to journalists. Shortly thereafter, the FBI began to attack the witnesses with perhaps the most inane disinformation ever—alleging the witnesses actually observed a private jet at 34,000 ft. The FBI says the jet was asked to come down to 5000 ft. and try to find the crash site. This would require about 20 minutes to descend.”
    FACT: There was such a jet in the vicinity—a Dassault Falcon 20 business jet owned by the VF Corp. of Greensboro, N.C., an apparel company that markets Wrangler jeans and other brands. The VF plane was flying into Johnstown-Cambria airport, 20 miles north of Shanksville. According to David Newell, VF’s director of aviation and travel, the FAA’s Cleveland Center contacted copilot Yates Gladwell when the Falcon was at an altitude “in the neighborhood of 3000 to 4000 ft.”—not 34,000 ft. “They were in a descent already going into Johnstown,” Newell adds. “The FAA asked them to investigate and they did. They got down within 1500 ft. of the ground when they circled. They saw a hole in the ground with smoke coming out of it. They pinpointed the location and then continued on.” Reached by PM, Gladwell confirmed this account but, concerned about ongoing harassment by conspiracy theorists, asked not to be quoted directly.
    Roving Engine
    Claim: One of Flight 93’s engines was found “at a considerable distance from the crash site,” according to Lyle Szupinka, a state police officer on the scene who was quoted in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. Offering no evidence, a posting on Rense.com claimed: “The main body of the engine … was found miles away from the main wreckage site with damage comparable to that which a heat-seeking missile would do to an airliner.”
    FACT: Experts on the scene tell PM that a fan from one of the engines was recovered in a catchment basin, downhill from the crash site. Jeff Reinbold, the National Park Service representative responsible for the Flight 93 National Memorial, confirms the direction and distance from the crash site to the basin: just over 300 yards south, which means the fan landed in the direction the jet was traveling. “It’s not unusual for an engine to move or tumble across the ground,” says Michael K. Hynes, an airline accident expert who investigated the crash of TWA Flight 800 out of New York City in 1996. “When you have very high velocities, 500 mph or more,” Hynes says, “you are talking about 700 to 800 ft. per second. For something to hit the ground with that kind of energy, it would only take a few seconds to bounce up and travel 300 yards.” Numerous crash analysts contacted by PM concur.
    Indian Lake
    Claim: “Residents and workers at businesses outside Shanksville, Somerset County, reported discovering clothing, books, papers and what appeared to be human remains,” states a Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article dated Sept. 13, 2001. “Others reported what appeared to be crash debris floating in Indian Lake, nearly 6 miles from the immediate crash scene.” Commenting on reports that Indian Lake residents collected debris, Think AndAsk.com speculates: “On Sept. 10, 2001, a strong cold front pushed through the area, and behind it—winds blew northerly. Since Flight 93 crashed west-southwest of Indian Lake, it was impossible for debris to fly perpendicular to wind direction. … The FBI lied.” And the significance of widespread debris? Theorists claim the plane was breaking up before it crashed. TheForbiddenKnowledge.com states bluntly: “Without a doubt, Flight 93 was shot down.”

    FACT: Wallace Miller, Somerset County coroner, tells PM no body parts were found in Indian Lake. Human remains were confined to a 70-acre area directly surrounding the crash site. Paper and tiny scraps of sheetmetal, however, did land in the lake. “Very light debris will fly into the air, because of the concussion,” says former National Transportation Safety Board investigator Matthew McCormick. Indian Lake is less than 1.5 miles southeast of the impact crater—not 6 miles—easily within range of debris blasted skyward by the heat of the explosion from the crash. And the wind that day was northwesterly, at 9 to 12 mph, which means it was blowing from the northwest—toward Indian Lake.
    F-16 Pilot
    Claim: In February 2004, retired Army Col. Donn de Grand-Pre said on “The Alex Jones Show,” a radio talk show broadcast on 42 stations: “It [Flight 93] was taken out by the North Dakota Air Guard. I know the pilot who fired those two missiles to take down 93.” LetsRoll911.org, citing de Grand-Pre, identifies the pilot: “Major Rick Gibney fired two Sidewinder missiles at the aircraft and destroyed it in midflight at precisely 0958.”
    FACT: Saying he was reluctant to fuel debate by responding to unsubstantiated charges, Gibney (a lieutenant colonel, not a major) declined to comment. According to Air National Guard spokesman Master Sgt. David Somdahl, Gibney flew an F-16 that morning–but nowhere near Shanksville. He took off from Fargo, N.D., and flew to Bozeman, Mont., to pick up Ed Jacoby Jr., the director of the New York State Emergency Management Office. Gibney then flew Jacoby from Montana to Albany, N.Y., so Jacoby could coordinate 17,000 rescue workers engaged in the state’s response to 9/11. Jacoby confirms the day’s events. “I was in Big Sky for an emergency managers meeting. Someone called to say an F-16 was landing in Bozeman. From there we flew to Albany.” Jacoby is outraged by the claim that Gibney shot down Flight 93. “I summarily dismiss that because Lt. Col. Gibney was with me at that time. It disgusts me to see this because the public is being misled. More than anything else it disgusts me because it brings up fears. It brings up hopes—it brings up all sorts of feelings, not only to the victims’ families but to all the individuals throughout the country, and the world for that matter. I get angry at the misinformation out there.”

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5688/debunking-911-myths-flight-93/

  26. jdseanjd says:

    Here’s another conspiracy against the populace:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-zRREd8DZQ
    Or: Pilots Learn About Geoengineering & Chemtrails
    1 hr 24 mins

  27. Dave N says:

    What’s really funny is that Lew thinks that skeptics are conspiracy theorists, yet says nothing about kooks like Oreskes (and any number of other alarmists that believe in big oil/tobacco/ conspiracies). Apparently psychology is like alarmist climate science: as long as it fits your theory, it must be true.

  28. jdseanjd says:

    A tad more reality:
    wallstreetonparade.com/2015/04/why-the-fed-will-crash-the-economy-if-it-hikes-interest-rates-in-three-charts/

  29. Paul Clark says:

    This post mostly concerns the excellent exposé of the 1970’s global cooling scare. But two rather large topics are brushed over at the beginning, concerning the moon landing & 9/11. As soon as Steven Goddard steps outside the AGW topic: funny how he’s no longer Galileo and becomes part of Team Consensus™, complete with appeals to authority, straw men, and insults.

    Different shadow lengths is probably a weaker point in favour of the moon-hoax hypothesis. I suspect Steve would rather bypass some of the stronger points, such as the “laminated photo on the surface of the moon“, or “two ton craft stops dead, with no inertia“. That second link shows what’s supposed to be a two ton spacecraft looking more like a dinky little model portrayed with all the pizazz of 1950’s B-grade sci-fi flick motion-technology.

    With regard to 9/11: the twin towers had an unconventional top-down explosive demolition, so their collapse appears, at least superficially, to comply with Popular Mechanics magazine’s “pancake collapse theory” since it doesn’t look like a normal controlled demolition. The explosions in the bottom of the towers were not what brought them down. To portray that as common 9/11 claim is to build what is known as a “straw man”. While, unlike the twin towers, building 7’s demolition – the third tower to fall that day – was a more conventional bottom-up one:

  30. scott mccall says:

    Why are 9/11 truthers even posting here? Fucking idiots. Sorry but if you believe bush did it, you are a fool.

    • Gail Combs says:

      Once you realise your government has been consistently lying to you to line the pockets of the Chosen, you are going to start questioning everything.

      Do I think Bush was in on it? No but that does not mean that we have been told the whole story either. One only has to look at the inconsistency of the response of the US government.

      To put it bluntly the whole matter stinks to high heaven. NOTHING adds up.
      The Prevention of Interceptions of the Commandeered Planes

      It is standard operating procedure (SOP) to scramble jet fighters whenever a jetliner goes off course or radio contact with it is lost. Between September 2000 and June 2001, interceptors were scrambled 67 times. In the year 2000 jets were scrambled 129 times…..

      The air defense network had, on September 11th, predictable and effective procedures for dealing with just such an attack. Yet it failed to respond in a timely manner until after the attack was over, more than an hour and a half after it had started. The official timeline describes a series of events and mode of response in which the delays are spread out into a number of areas. There are failures upon failures, in what might be described as a strategy of layered failures, or failure in depth….

      What 9/11 Meant For Americans
      1. Travel restrictions.
      —— No Fly lists
      —— Grope-n-fly (getting people used to the state’s invasion of you personal space without warrant)
      —— Development of invasive devices for scanning people at train depots, buses and even in private homes. (wwwDOT)usatoday.com/story/news/2015/01/19/police-radar-see-through-walls/22007615/
      —— Technology in new cars that track where you go and allow vehicles to be shut down remotely. (WWWDOT)npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2014/10/16/356693782/your-car-wont-start-did-you-make-the-loan-payment

      2. The formation of the Department of Homeland Security.
      …….. Formation of Fusion Centers – The police are no longer just a part of the community but are moving towards being part of the federal government. (WWWDOT)privacysos.org/fusioncenters

      ……. The militarization of police – my comment
      ……. Stockpiling ammo and weapons in federal agencies (Why does the Department of Ag need machine guns, why does DHS need 1.6 billion rounds of ammo?)

      …… Janet Napolitano, head of Homeland Security leaves the Mexican border wide open, refuses to build the promised border fence, removes border agents and instead targeting US citizens my old comment

      …… Terrorist list 72 Types Of Americans That Are Considered “Potential Terrorists” In Official Government Documents thetruthwins(DOT)com/archives/72-types-of-americans-that-are-considered-potential-terrorists-in-official-government-documents

      …..NSA Spying and data collecting on Americans
      2012 National Defense Authorization Act repeals Posse Comitatus by authorizing the U.S. military to perform law enforcement function

      …..National Defense Authorization Act (2011+) allows the indefinite detention of Americans
      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

      15 of the 19 hijackers were citizens of Saudi Arabia. So what did 9/11 mean to Saudi Arabia?
      Most Saudi citizens are Sunni Muslims. PEW Report: Iran and Iraq are two of only a handful of countries that have more Shias than Sunnis.

      The ongoing and intensifying conflict in Iraq has fallen – at least in part – along sectarian lines, with the Sunni Muslim militant group ISIS (the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria) advancing against the Shia Muslim-led Iraqi government and Shia militias. Sectarian affiliation has played a role in the politics of the region for hundreds of years.
      (WWWDOT)pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/06/18/the-sunni-shia-divide-where-they-live-what-they-believe-and-how-they-view-each-other/

      Interesting that Iran and Iraq are the targets of the USA when most of the hijackers were Saudis….

      U.S. Grants Saudis ‘Trusted Traveler’ Privileges to Help Them Through Airport Security
      So while toddlers in wheel chairs and grannies in walkers are subject to Grope-n-fly, People from the country that supplied most of the Hijackers get a free-pass.

      OIL
      ARAMCO – Rockefeller, JP Morgan Chase & The Saudi Oil connections.

      Seems the real losers after 9/11 was NOT Saudi Arabia or the Sunni Muslims but US citizens, funny that.

      • gator69 says:

        Gail, I love you like a sister, but truthers are nutcases. Did our government drop the ball on intelligence? Yes. Was the WTC an easy target due to its construction? Yes.

        We were attacked. My brother was working at the Pentagon at the time of the attack, and I can assure you, it was not faked or an inside job.

        Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

        BTW – I have been painstakingly going over the Gage video and rebuttals. Gage is just another truther who fraudulently edits video, evidence, and quotes, to create a myth. More to come.

      • Gail Combs says:

        Gator,
        As I have stated elsewhere I do not have the engineering background to evaluate the situation with the towers.

        All I can do is see that:
        (1) Certain elements in out government used “Never let a crisis go to waste” to crush a lot more of our liberties to the point I do not recognize this country any more. In 2001 I never dreamed this country could go to hell so fast.

        (2) The government certainly does not take the ‘Terrorist’ or ‘Muslim” threat at all seriously but instead targets ‘Homegrown Terrorists’ like Ron Paul, Ben Carson and three year old little girls in wheel chairs.

        A useful crisis or an orchestrated crisis? Who knows? But because of #2, I would lean towards an orchestrated crisis. Why? Because there are certainly close connections between the Saudi Royal house and Osama bin Laden link and the Saudi Royal house and the Rockefellers (ARAMCO). And the Saudis, Maurice Strong and the Rockefellers.

        We know that David Rockefeller has been working towards a global government for years and 9/11 has brought the USA a lot closer to becoming a communist/socialist ‘democracy’

        The interesting connection is Maurice Strong. Maurice Strong started working for the Rockefeller’s in Saudi Arabia in 1953. Strong is a trustee of the Rockefeller Foundation, and Chief Advisor to the World Bank. He sits on boards with the Rockefellers, Mikhail Gorbachev and chairs private meetings of CEOs, including Bill Gates. He hobnobs with the world’s royalty, with dictators and despots. He does business deals with people like arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi.

        Yeah SAUDI Arms dealer Khashoggi a buddy of Osama bin Laden’s father.

        ….Adnan M. Khashoggi, who is 74 years old and these days prefers to be remembered as “Mr. Fix It,” rather than the arms dealer involved in the Iran-Contra scandal. “I just accept this as my destiny. It’s a personal attitude.”

        Mr. Khashoggi has been linked to — but never convicted in — almost every major scandal of the late 20th century: Wedtech, B.C.C.I., the indictment of the Marcoses in the Philippines, as well as Iran-Contra….
        Mr. Khashoggi was born into opportunity, if not outright privilege. His father was the personal physician to King Abdul-Aziz ibn Saud, the founder of the modern state of Saudi Arabia. He made $150,000 the summer after his first year at California State University, Chico, selling heavy trucks to Muhammad bin Laden, Osama bin Laden’s father. He attended Stanford but never graduated….
        http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/14/world/middleeast/14khashoggi.html

        Back to our Buddy Maurice Strong and his dealings with Khashoggi.

        ….Maurice Strong described himself as “a socialist in ideology, a capitalist in methodology”.

        In 1972 he organised for U Thant the first Earth Summit, The Stockholm Conference on the Human Environment. This led to the formation of UN Environment Program with Maurice Strong at its head. Later, as the UNEP boss he organised the first international expert group meeting on climate change.

        This led to exotic UN sponsored organizations such at Earth Council and Earth Charter, The World Resources Institute, the World Wildlife Fund and later The Commission for World Governance and the UN’s University for Peace. Strong was the driving force behind the idea of world governance by the United Nations when he dreamt up a world tax on monetary transactions of 0.5% which would have given theUN an annual income of $1.5 trillion. About equal then to the income of the USA.

        The stumbling block was the Security Council, and their power of veto. He devised a plan to get rid of the Security Council but failed to get it implemented. Then came along the idea that global warming might just be the device to get his World Governance proposal up and running.

        In 1989 Maurice Strong was appointed Secretary General of the Earth Summit and in 1992, addressing Earth Summit II in Rio, he told the thousands of climate change delegates:

        It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class— involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts frozen and convenience foods, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and work place air-conditioning, and suburbanhousing — are not sustainable.

        I

        There goes the Sunday roast, a house to live in, the car, the occasional hamburger and generally, life on earth as we know it. But what Strong didn’t tell the delegates was that he was involved in the purchase of the Colorado Land and Cattle Company, which he bought from Adnan Khashoggi, an arms dealer who had strong connections with the Bin Laden family.http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2010/01/discovering-maurice-strong/

        And then there is THE REPORT FROM IRON MOUNTAIN

        The Report from Iron Mountain concludes that there can be no substitute for war unless it possesses three properties. It must (1) be economically wasteful, (2) represent a credible threat of great magnitude, and (3) provide a logical excuse for compulsory service to the government.
        The final candidate for a useful global threat was pollution of the environment. This was viewed as the most likely to succeed because it could be related to observable conditions such as smog and water pollution– in other words, it would be based partly on fact and, therefore, be credible. Predictions could be made showing end-of-earth scenarios just as horrible as atomic warfare. Accuracy in these predictions would not be important. Their purpose would be to frighten, not to inform. It might even be necessary to deliberately poison the environment to make the predictions more convincing and to focus the public mind on fighting a new enemy, more fearful than any invader from another nation – or even from outer space. The masses would more willingly accept a falling standard of living, tax increases, and bureaucratic intervention in their lives as simply “the price we must pay to save Mother Earth.” A massive battle against death and destruction from global pollution possibly could replace war as justification for social control….

        Maurice Strong believes – or says that he believes – the world’s ecosystems can be preserved only if the affluent nations of the world can be disciplined into lowering their standard of living. Production and consumption must be curtailed. To bring that about, those nations must submit to rationing, taxation, and political domination by world government. They will probably not do that voluntarily, he says, so they will have to be forced. To accomplish that, it will be necessary to engineer a global monetary crisis which will destroy their economic systems. Then they will have no choice but to accept assistance and control from the UN.

        So, in order to save the planet, the group decides: Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about? “This group of world leaders,” he continues, “form a secret society to bring about an economic collapse. It’s February. They’re all at Davos. These aren’t terrorists. They’re world leaders. They have positioned themselves in the world’s commodity and stock markets. They’ve engineered, using their access to stock exchanges and computers and gold supplies, a panic. Then, they prevent the world’s stock markets from closing. They jam the gears. They hire mercenaries who hold the rest of the world leaders at Davos as hostages. The markets can’t close. The rich countries…” And Strong makes a slight motion with his fingers as if he were flicking a cigarette butt out the window.
        I sit there spellbound. This is not any storyteller talking, this is Maurice Strong. He knows these world leaders. He is, in fact, co-chairman of the Council of the World Economic Forum. He sits at the fulcrum of power. He is in a position to do it. (27)
        (27) “The Wizard of Baca Grande.” By Daniel Wood, West magazine, May 1990, p. 35.

        Do I think it possible Strong and his buddies organized the hit on the World Trade Center? It is not out of the realm of possibilities is it? The personal connections are all there and the motive — the destruction of the USA so a World Government can be formed.

        • gator69 says:

          Gail, ghosts could be real. Ghost stories have been around since the dawn of time, and they still persist to this day. But until someone shows me a ghost, I will remain a true skeptic.

          Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

        • Gail Combs says:

          Gator,

          If a cigar is just a cigar, then I wish the US government would go harass the cigar makers and leave the rest of us alone!

        • Gail Combs says:

          Gator,

          I should have added, that if the US government had treated the Muslim Terrorist threat seriously it would cut the heart out of the 9/11 truther junk. Unfortunately the US government instead treats Muslims and especially the Saudis with kid gloves and attacks ordinary Americans. WTF!?!

          THAT is what give ‘Conspiracies’ legs. The government says one thing and does the opposite so you are left trying to figure out just what lies they are telling, what is the truth, and who benefits.

          All I am saying is NOTHING adds up — NOTHING! So that means we are being fed a lot of BS.

        • gator69 says:

          Ghost stories have legs too.

          As I said, we dropped the ball on intelligence. Then the PC police kept us from having adult conversations about Islam, the same way they are preventing us from discussing Ferguson and Baltimore.

          It really is as simple as that, Occam’s Razor.

        • Gail, it does “add up” to me. The government is not one unified entity. There are plenty of bad guys competing at the trough and the levers of power but they don’t march in single file. Stalin and Hitler were allies and waged wars on each other in just a few years.

        • Ted says:

          This has been my feeling from the start. Would our government do something like this? Yes. Does that mean they did this particular attack? No. It doesn’t mean they didn’t, either.

          What they didn’t do is rig 2 buildings with enormous amounts of explosives, and a trigger system allowing them to start the demolition at whichever floor the plane ends up hitting, two hours after it hit. To bring down a building from the base, it takes enough explosives to weaken the structure on a single floor. There’s no way to anticipate specifically which floors the plane would hit, so they would have had to rig several dozen floors, requiring far more explosives, and far more time to plant them. To do this without disrupting business, in two heavily populated buildings, would be a monumental achievement. It would require thousands of pounds of explosives, and probably many weeks of setup. You can’t just wheel in a trash can full of TNT, and push it up against a column. It takes either precisely placed shaped charges, or truly massive amounts of explosives. The former would require substantial demolition just to place the charges, and the latter would have been too obvious to deny. There simply wasn’t an explosion of that magnitude immediately preceding either collapse. I also find it unlikely that anyone evil enough to do this would wait for almost everyone to get out, before setting off the explosives. Even more, that delay left too much room for failure. A 200,000 pound aircraft hitting a building at 400 MPH could easily knock pre-rigged explosives out of place, and the fire would have been too likely to set them off at random. And if the buildings hadn’t fallen, they would have had to find a way to cover up all those explosives. The only plan with a reasonable chance for success would have been to set off the charges as the planes hit, which clearly didn’t happen. It also would have been pointlessly redundant.

          I don’t claim that they weren’t controlled demolitions. I only claim that it would have been extraordinarily hard to do set up that type of demolition, and the same result could have been accomplished with far less effort, and far less randomness. If the united states government wants to destroy two skyscrapers with commercial aircraft, it clearly has the means to do it. Loading the planes with magnesium dust and potassium nitrate, for instance, would all but guarantee a structural collapse. There’s really no need to set up a Rube Goldberg system of explosives.

          There were clearly things covered up. Most obvious was the Saudi involvement. But there are political realities at play here. The Saudi government is just too tight with our own government, and the Bushes in particular, to be blamed. Whether or not they actually did it is irrelevant. And perhaps more importantly, the Saudis simply control too much oil, and too many American bonds. As the saying goes, follow the money.

          In my opinion, regardless of who was pulling the strings, the plan was to take down the buildings with the planes, not with pre-rigged explosives. My gut feeling is that the Bush administration was involved in covering up the Saudi connection, but probably knew nothing ahead of the attack. Other agencies may have known more than they let on, and possibly in advance. But I’ve seen no evidence for that. (I can’t say I’ve looked all that hard, though)

        • Ted says:

          I also think the promotion of conspiracy theories is part of the goal. When everyone is suspicious of everything, those who get to define reality can say whatever they want. Hence, 18 years of stable temperatures is reported as unprecedented warming. And if you don’t believe that, you’re just a conspiracy nut. Most people don’t have the mental or emotional energy to argue forever. Eventually, they just believe whatever they’re told.

        • I also think the promotion of conspiracy theories is part of the goal …

          That.

        • Gail Combs says:

          So you guys think it was “don’t let a crisis go to waste’ aka tightening the totalitarian screws a full notch on the American public and do a CYA for your Saudi buddies.

          Still doesn’t mean The District of Criminals isn’t full of a bunch of Globalist traitors and their Ass Kissers.

        • Gail Combs says:

          Ted says: ….
          “This has been my feeling from the start. Would our government do something like this? Yes. Does that mean they did this particular attack? No. It doesn’t mean they didn’t, either.

          What they didn’t do is rig 2 buildings with enormous amounts of explosives…..”
          >>>>>>>>>>>>>

          I agree with the US government not rigging explosives. I also don’t think the ‘official’ US government knew before hand. Note I have never said I did believe any of that, just that I do not believe the US government is truthful.

          Was there knowledge and help from those who wanted to bring the US down? Quite possibly. As I said above Maurice Strong, Rockefeller and the various high level Saudis knew each other and I doubt any of them had any love for or loyalty to the USA. The Saudis also were not exactly buddy buddy with Iraq and Iran who eventually became US targets. The only real question is was it a purely Muslim attack or were there other fingers in the pie? Unfortunately the answer to that we will never know.

          Was the US government, after the fact hustling Saudis out of the country and doing a cover-up? Yes if the news stories are to be believed.

          Re- High level Saudis more info is coming out.

          Lawyers for victims of the Sept. 11 attacks say they have new evidence that agents of Saudi Arabia “directly and knowingly” helped the hijackers, including sworn testimony from the so-called 20th hijacker and from three principals of the U.S. government’s two primary probes of the attacks….

          They said an “expansive volume” of new evidence — including U.S. and foreign intelligence reports, government reports and testimony from al-Qaida members — support lawsuits seeking billions of dollars from countries, companies and organizations that aided al-Qaida and other terrorist groups.

          They said evidence likely to be released soon includes a congressional report detailing evidence of Saudi 9/11 involvement and nearly 80,000 pages of material relating to an FBI probe of Saudis who supported 9/11 hijackers in Florida….
          http://www.freep.com/story/news/nation/2015/02/05/september-attacks-saudi-arabia/22914835/

          And speaking of FLORIDA….
          According to WIKI

          The hijackers in the September 11 attacks were 19 men affiliated with al-Qaeda, and 15 of the 19 were citizens of Saudi Arabia. …..three hijacker-pilots, Mohamed Atta, Marwan al-Shehhi, and Ziad Jarrah mid-2000 to undertake flight training in south Florida.…

          Just 15 days before the 9/11 attacks, a well-connected Saudi family suddenly abandoned their luxury home in Sarasota, Fla., leaving behind jewelry, clothes, opulent furniture, a driveway full of cars — including a brand new Chrysler PT Cruiser — and even a refrigerator full of food.

          About the only thing not left behind was a forwarding address. The occupants simply vanished without notifying their neighbors, realtor or even mail carrier.

          The 3,300-square-foot home on Escondito Circle belonged to Esam Ghazzawi, a Saudi adviser to the nephew of then-King Fahd. But at the time, it was occupied by his daughter and son-in-law, who beat a hasty retreat back to Saudi Arabia just two weeks before the attacks after nearly a six-year stay here.

          Neighbors took note of the troubling coincidence and called the FBI, which opened an investigation that led to the startling discovery that at least one “family member” trained at the same flight school as some of the 9/11 hijackers in nearby Venice, Fla…..

          The review commission, however, concludes there is “no evidence” that any Saudi official provided assistance to the hijackers, even though the panel failed to interview Graham or his two key investigators — former Justice Department attorney Dana Lesemann and FBI investigator Michael Jacobson — who ran down FBI leads tying Saudi officials to the San Diego hijackers and documented their findings in the 28 pages.

          Graham smells a rat: “This is a pervasive pattern of covering up the role of Saudi Arabia in 9/11 by all of the agencies of the federal government which have access to information that might illuminate Saudi Arabia’s role in 9/11.”
          http://nypost.com/2015/04/12/saudi-role-in-911-being-whitewashed-by-fbi/

          Confirmed: Saudis flown Out of US 9/13/01 Under FBI Supervision

          …authorities at Tampa International Airport confirmed that Saudis were flown in the US during the three-day travel ban immediately after 9-11. This information was provided just last week to the 9/11 commission in response to an inquiry. For nearly three years, White House, aviation and law enforcement officials have insisted this flight never took place…
          http://www.wanttoknow.info/saudisflown913fbi

          Both Bob Graham and Bob Kerrey, two former senators for the states of Florida and Nebraska, respectively, have filed statements with the Federal Court for the Southern District of New York in which they suggest that the Saudi government had a substantial role in the 9/11 attacks. Senator Graham previously served as chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence on 9/11 and Kerrey was a member of the bi-partisan National Commission on Terrorist Acts Upon the United States, commonly referred to as the “9/11 Commission.”

          Explaining his renewed involvement in the matter, Senator Graham says, “I am convinced that there was a direct line between at least some of the terrorists who carried out the September 11th attacks and the government of Saudi Arabia.” Graham adds that an “…issue deserving of further attention and investigation concerns the involvement of Saudi based charities in the provision of financial and other support to al Qaeda, and the precise character of the relationships between those charities and the government of the Kingdom.”

          In a statement filed with the court this week, both senators say the US was too quick to exonerate the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the Saudi High Commission from involvement in the terrorist attacks. The District Court in New York will hear arguments later this month to see if it is viable to reintroduce the Saudis as a defendants in the In Re Terrorist Attacks on September 11, 2001 litigation. That case, which concluded in 2008, ended with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, several Saudi princes, a Saudi banker and a Saudi charity being removed from charges that they were involved in the terrorist attacks.

          Despite allegations of Saudi involvement in 9/11, the US government has remained close with the country since they were exonerated from any connection. As recently as this past December, the Obama administration announced plans to move $30 billion worth of fighter jets and other weaponry to the kingdom. Andrew Shapiro, assistant secretary of state for political-military affairs, told reporters at the time, “This sale will send a strong message to countries in the region that the United States is committed to stability in the Gulf and broader Middle East.
          http://rt.com/usa/news/saudi-arabia-911-attacks-633/

        • annieoakley says:

          Thanks for posting that Baca Ranch/ Strong link. I was looking into it because the Udall family has been mentioned as being part of that deal. I reached a dead end and then had a computer crash. Also I remember Sec of the Interior, Morris Udall. U Thant is also a familiar name.

  31. catweazle666 says:

    Here is one of many peer reviewed papers predicting a coming ice age.

    ATMOSPHERIC CARBON DIOXIDE AND AEROSOLS:
    Effects of Large Increases on Global Climate.

    Abstract.

    Effects on the global temperature of large increases in carbon dioxide and aerosol densities in the atmosphere of Earth have been computed. It is found that, although the addition of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere does increase the surface temperature, the rate of temperature increase diminishes with increasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. For aerosols, however, the net effect of increase in density is to reduce the surface temperature of Earth. Becuase of the exponential dependence of the backscattering, the rate of temperature decrease is augmented with increasing aerosol content. An increase by only a factor of 4 in global aerosol background concentration may be sufficient to reduce the surface temperature by as much as 3.5 deg.K. If sustained over a period of several years, such a temperature decrease over the whole globe is believed to be sufficient to trigger an ice age.

    The rate at which human activities may be inadvertently modifying the climate of Earth has become a problem of serious concern 1 . In the last few decades the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere appears to have increased by 7 percent 2 . During the same period, the aerosol content of the lower atmosphere may have been augmented by as much as 100 percent 3 .

    How have these changes in the composition of the atmosphere affected the climate of the globe? More importantly, is it possible that a continued increase in the CO2 and dust content of the atmosphere at the present rate will produce such large-scale effects on the global temperature that the process may run away, with the planet Earth eventually becoming as hot as Venus (700 deg. K.) or as cold as Mars (230 deg. K.)?

    We report here on the first results of a calculation in which separate estimates were made of the effects on global temperature of large increases in the amount of CO2 and dust in the atmosphere. It is found that even an increase by a factor of 8 in the amount of CO2, which is highly unlikely in the next several thousand years, will produce an increase in the surface temperature of less than 2 deg. K.

    However, the effect on surface temperature of an increase in the aerosol content of the atmosphere is found to be quite significant. An increase by a factor of 4 in the equilibrium dust concentration in the global atmosphere, which cannot be ruled out as a possibility within the next century, could decrease the mean surface temperature by as much as 3.5 deg. K. If sustained over a period of several years, such a temperature decrease could be sufficient to trigger an ice age!

    Schneider S. & Rasool S., “Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide and Aerosols – Effects of Large Increases on Global Climate”, Science, vol.173, 9 July 1971, p.138-141

    Those results were bases on a climate model developed by none other than James Hansen, incidentally.

    • Disillusioned says:

      This reminds me of a film I saw from the 1970s with, if I recall correctly, Leonard Nimoy narrating. The film was about a coming ice age. A young Dr. Stephen Schneider was featured in that film (presumably the same S. Schneider above, who later played down his concerns about aerosols taking us into an ice age, and later played up CO2-caused warming scare scenarios).

    • jdseanjd says:

      I just caught this:
      http://www.junkscience.com/2015/05/06/a-comprehensive-look-at-solar-activity-and-a-new-ice-age-comin/
      which links low solar sunspot activity to waek solar winds leading to increased cosmic rays causing a certain type of cloud that can act to cool the Earth.

      Bearing in mind that TPTB had the 1974 CIA report predicting this coming cold period, publicly paid for, this makes the global warming scam all the more reprenhsible, because cold kills, heat, not so much.

      It fits perfectly, of course with the Agenda 21 depopulation plan.

  32. jdseanjd says:

    A further indication of conspiracy: The BBC reported the “collapse” of WTC building 7, a full 23 minutes before it happened, thereby proving itself a terrorist complicit organisation, by having foreknowledge of a terrorist event.

    This was the basis for Tony Rooke’s court case I linked above. He argued that it would be illegal under Brit law for him to pay his govt mandated BBC licence fee, as he would be funding this terrorist complicit BBC organisation. He won his day in court.

    Bear in mind that the BBC is the Brit Govt mouthpiece, & add 1 + 1 = our Govts are in a conspiracy against us. & as is becoming increasingly obvious, day by day, that our Govts are merely front men for the banksters & their cronies, the multinationals, the inference is clear.

    Interestingly, Maurice Strong & George Soros are both front men for the Rockefeller/Rothschild collaboration.

    Probably the most interesting of my links above is the Pentagon attack forensic examination by Barbara Honegger, 3h rs & worth it. Count the number of pieces of 747 on the Pentagon lawn = 0.

    • gator69 says:

      With the lack of even the smallest amount of hard evidence supporting their stories, conspiracy theorists have become more desperate to find anything which could be twisted to support them. Case in point: The WTC 7 was seen in the background of a BBC report while the reporter said the building had already collapsed. The story is that the reporters were given a “script” to say and these reporters stupidly read the lines before the building fell. Plain old common sense can dispatch this conspiracy story.

      Why do they choose to believe the more unlikely conspiracy story which suggests that at least some reporters of some news organizations were given a script? Especially when, much more logically, miscommunication could easily explain the video.

      Why in the WORLD would they need to give the reporters a head’s up??? Why wouldn’t they just blow the building up and let them report the collapse as they would have normally?

      What most likely, logically happened: While investigating and updating information on the collapse of the towers, someone at the BBC was given a report/press release that building 7 was going to collapse. [Edit: we now know they were monitoring the news from different outlets and that’s where they learned of building 7.] According to the fire department, by 2:00PM they knew the building would soon collapse. Reporters KNEW this well before the collapse because there are videos of reporters talking about it before it happened. So we KNOW reporters were given information on WTC 7’s imminent demise. We can conclude from this evidence that the fire department relayed information to reporters that the building was going to collapse. By the time the report reached the reporter at the BBC, it may have simply been miscommunicated from “About to collapse” to “Has collapsed”. She even starts out by saying “Details are very, very sketchy”. That alone should put this to rest. She didn’t say ‘Sketchy’. She didn’t say ‘very sketchy’. She said “very, very sketchy”.
      It wouldn’t be the first time reporters got something so completely wrong. They said it was a small plane at first, remember? They said Kerry choose Gephardt for VP, remember? They told the family members of trapped mine workers that their 13 loved ones were alive, all but one, when it was the other way around. Those are just a few glaring examples. I could go on… Reporters rush to be the first one with the news and often do a poor job of getting the facts straight. History is littered with examples of this. Even your average knuckle dragging, cave dwelling Neanderthal knows this. (My sincerest apologies Geico’s Neanderthal man…)

      Listen to Aaron Brown from CNN say the building collapsed or is collapsing with the building in the background.

      I have had on this site since I started it (just under the 12 things we know for sure on this very page) the link to a video with someone from MSNBC saying “What we’ve been fearing all afternoon has finally happened.” As the building collapses. That makes CNN, BBC and MSNBC who knew the building was going to collapse. I searched for the MSNBC video because I remembered the media saying the building would collapse before it did. Here is that video again…

      How many people knew that building was Building 7 before that day? It is unreasonable and unrealistic to expect every reporter to know the names of all the buildings in the World Trade Center. For all they may have known, building 7 could have been one of the smaller buildings which were also on fire.

      The downright absurd conspiracy story: The government told many reporters to report something they would have reported anyway after the building collapsed.

      A little critical thinking is all that’s needed to debunk this nonsense. Why in the world would they make an already unbelievably massive conspiracy into one involving reporters who would LOVE a scoop like that? “Sept. 9, 2001 – EXCLUSIVE BREAKING NEWS! Government about to murder thousands for oil! We have the script!” Can you imagine the job offerings after a scoop like that? Can you say Pulitzer prize? What a hero! Who would pass that up to help a shadowy government commit the mass murder of Americans? This would be MUCH bigger than Watergate! Or maybe this was a planed gaffe to expose this plot? Are we to believe this gaffe is the only way she could have told us? A method which could easily be dismissed as typical poor reporting?

      And here is the kicker… Did they really need even MORE people involved? What was the reason they absolutely needed to tell the reporters this? Why haven’t any of the other reporters talked? Are most reporters part of a mass murder scheme? How much can conspiracy theorists swallow?

      At best, this is an attempt to take your minds off the real issue. Why did the media know the WTC 7 was going to collapse if there were just a few small fires? This is another part of the conspiracy story they don’t want you to think about.

      Do the conspiracy theorist leaders have one shred of REAL evidence of explosives or anything else which could take down the buildings? Air samples with trace explosive chemicals in it? A memo like the Downing Street memo? A whistleblower who was in on the planning maybe? None of that involves the so called “whisked away steel”. They have nothing. They’re left to scour the internet for the slightest mistake made by anyone on that horrific, chaotic day. They’re left destroying peoples’ lives by suggesting innocent people are involved in mass murders.

      BBC’s response…

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/02/part_of_the_conspiracy.html

      I smell a deliberate attempt to quiet the media. It is not lost on me that the BBC recently created a story which casts the conspiracy leaders in a bad light. What media will want to expose the misinformation and deception of these conspiracy leaders if they incur the wrath of a few fringe lunatics? Apparently, Alex Jones, Fetzer and Co. would like their own shadowy, loose knit government based on fear. B@@!

      Another update:

      It seems I wasn’t far off from what the BBC suspects happened. They even reference the CNN video above.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/03/part_of_the_conspiracy_2.html

      Update:

      Here is a first responder with Building 7 in the background during an interview. Note the frustration in his voice because he can’t do anything for the building.

      First responder: “You see where the white smoke is? You see this thing leaning like this? It’s definitely coming down. There’s no way to stop it. Cause you have to go up in there to put it out and it already – the structural integrity is just not there in the building. It’s tough, it’s.. it’s.. You know we can handle just about anything, this is beyond…

      This new video explains how the building caught fire and may have weakened the building well before the initiation of the collapse.

      http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

    • gator69 says:

      FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. “It was absolutely a plane, and I’ll tell you why,” says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. “I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box.” Kilsheimer’s eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: “I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?”

      http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5659/debunking-911-myths-pentagon/

    • gator69 says:

      https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/pentagonattackpage2

      From the lists above, 136 people saw the plane approach the Pentagon, and
      104 directly saw the plane hit the Pentagon.

      6 were nearly hit by the plane in front of the Pentagon. Several others were within 100-200 feet of the impact.

      26 mentioned that it was an American Airlines jet.

      39 others mentioned that it was a large jet/commercial airliner.

      2 described a smaller corporate jet. 1 described a “commuter plane” but didn’t mention the size.

      7 said it was a Boeing 757.

      8 witnesses were pilots. One witness was an Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower Chief.

      2 witnesses were firefighters working on their truck at the Pentagon heliport.

      4 made radio calls to inform emergency services that a plane had hit the Pentagon.

      10 said the plane’s flaps and landing gear were not deployed (1 thought landing gear struck a light pole).

      16 mentioned seeing the plane hit light poles/trees, or were next to to the poles when it happened. Another 8 mentioned the light poles being knocked down: it’s unknown if they saw them hit.

      42 mentioned seeing aircraft debris. 4 mentioned seeing airline seats. 3 mentioned engine parts.

      2 mentioned bodies still strapped into seats.

      15 mentioned smelling or contacting aviation/jet fuel.

      3 had vehicles damaged by light poles or aircraft debris. Several saw other occupied vehicles damaged.

      3 took photographs of the aftermath.

      Many mentioned false alarm warnings of other incoming planes after the crash. One said “3-4 warnings.”

      And of course,

      0 saw a military aircraft or missile strike the Pentagon.

      0 saw a plane narrowly miss the Pentagon and fly away.

      https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pentagonflight77evidencesummary

    • gator69 says:

      Probably the most interesting of my links above is the Pentagon attack forensic examination by Barbara Honegger, 3h rs & worth it. Count the number of pieces of 747 on the Pentagon lawn = 0.

      Who is Barbara Honegger?

      A believer in ESP who earned a master’s degree in parapsychology from the little-known John F. Kennedy University in Orinda, Calif., Honegger claimed, for instance, that a “source” using her voice told her in January 1980 that she would join a future Reagan Administration to defend women’s rights. “I’m not claiming I’m psychic,” she now says. “I don’t know what it is.”

      There were instances of erratic public behavior. At her Wizard of Oz news conference, she invited the crowd to join her later that afternoon in front of the White House to read an open letter to the President—then failed to show up, leaving an estimated 50 people waiting for 45 minutes.

      Flying to San Diego on the day of President Reagan’s speech there to the Republican Women’s Leadership Forum, Honegger held forth in the restaurant of the Bahia Resort Hotel (“You do, of course, see that my initials are all over this hotel, don’t you?”). “I decided to go public and follow my conscience,” she said between spoonfuls of chocolate mousse. “I had to let the American people know what’s going on. I have the solution, I know the solution. I was there for all of us….”

      That night, on ABC’s Nightline, she was pale and squinting. “I get migraines from the bright lights,” she explained off camera as she scratched her nose with a haircomb. “You will let me know when I’m on camera and how many seconds to air time, won’t you?” she demanded repeatedly, until one camera crew member blurted out, “Will someone tell her to shut up!” Her appearance was a fiasco, as Honegger defensively turned away sensible questions by telling guest host Sam Donaldson and viewers to “read my article in the Washington Post.” Said one technician after the show: “Well, she’s sunk her own boat. She’s committed media suicide.” Honegger herself seemed blissfully unaware of any flaw in her performance as she left the taping, barefoot.

      The next day, on a plane to San Francisco, she loudly expounded such eccentric views of the Reagan Administration as this one: “Reagan is planning coerced body-part donation. And eventually coerced whole-body donations. That’s what forced pregnancy is. If we can force whole bodies, why not body parts? Why should a fetus have more rights than you or I? The whole issue of the 1980s is: Is your body your own property?” After a sigh, she added: “If they’d just let me get to the top, I can help them. Since Reagan was shot and survived an assassination attempt, unconsciously the American public thinks that he is Superman, and the truth is that he is Kryptonite.”

      In San Francisco she attended a party at an apartment decorated with Indian bedspreads and brick-and-board bookshelves and hosted by physicist Saul-Paul Sirag, who read to a rapt audience of parapsychology enthusiasts (including former astronaut Rusty Schweickart) from his recently published work, Physical Constants and Cosmological Constraints. Some of the women at the party, however, confronted Honegger with her poor Night-line performance and questioned whether her comments were the result of “ego.”

      The 1960s throwback atmosphere of the gathering seemed perfectly suited to Honegger’s unconventional background. By all accounts an excellent student, she graduated as valedictorian of her Hanford, Calif. high school in 1965 and earned her B.A. in creative writing at Stanford University. She later took graduate courses there, worked as a secretary for one of her professors and rose to brief campus prominence in 1975 when, in an incident prefiguring her later run-in with Reagan, she sued her boss for mistreatment. She settled out of court for $8,000, then wrote a scathing article on the incident that was published in the Stanford newspaper.

      Honegger’s energetic career has apparently left no room for romantic interests. “I’ve been in love only once in my life,” she says, “but external beauty was the most important thing to him. He became a plastic surgeon and married a tall blonde.” Her resignation from the Justice Department (shortly before her job was to end, anyway) is not likely to open up her social schedule. Her planned projects, she says, include: consulting for the White House, an investigation into the Shroud of Turin (“the Holy Grail was Christ’s skull”) and a “dream bank” business which, she explains, “will be a complex computer-run operation. You wake up in the morning all groggy, call in your dream on the phone. It’s punched into the computer’s memory banks, and a week later you or your psychiatrist receives the hard copy.” Her biggest project, she claims, will be a tell-all book, tentatively titled Immaculate Deception: Diary of a White House Munchkin.

      http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20085882,00.html

      And of course she now claims there were no plane parts at the Pentagon, which is provably false. But I guess the voices in her head told her otherwise.

      These guys were actually there, and witnessed the plane striking the Pentagon…

      Sean Boger, interview document, USA Center for Military History. Boger’s vantage point, the Pentagon Heliport control tower, had glass extending round the side of the tower, so he would have had an unobstructed view of the impact point. He comments on normal activities and mentions that he is looking out at the road and noting that traffic has stopped, then says:
      “I just see…the nose and wing of an aircraft coming right at us and he didn’t veer. And then you just heard the noise, and then he just smacked into the building, and when it hit the building, I am watching the plane go all the way into the building”. “So once the plane went into the building it exploded, and once it exploded, I hit the floor and just covered up my head. It was like glass shattering and ceiling tile was falling…”

      Alan Wallace and Mark Skipper. [These witnesses were working normally, close enough to the plane impact point that they were scorched by the heat, but did not mention a prior explosion.] The meticulous Wallace moved the fire truck out of the way, parking it about 15 feet from the Pentagon. That’s when Wallace got a call from his chief at nearby Fort Myer telling him of the attacks in New York and to be on alert. Minutes later, Wallace and his buddy Mark Skipper looked up and saw the gleam of a silver jetliner. But it was flying too low, maybe less than 25 feet off the ground. And it was heading right at them. “I yelled to Mark, ‘Let’s go!’” He bolted to the right, and a second later felt the searing heat of the blast behind him. He hit the ground and rolled under a parked van as a fire engulfed his fire truck, then blew through the firehouse. Wallace got back to his feet, saw Skipper had escaped, then rushed to the scorched fire truck to see if it would run, but the truck only belched fire. It wouldn’t move. So Wallace switched on the truck’s radio. “Foam 61 to Fort Myer,” he said. “We have had a commercial carrier crash into the west side of the Pentagon at the heliport, Washington Boulevard side. The crew is OK. The airplane was a 757 Boeing or a 320 Airbus.” Although he was still frantic and shaken, Wallace’s report turned out to be painfully accurate.

      Frank Probst. [This witness had just walked past the point where the plane would hit. He did not mention a prior explosion or damage to the wall.] A Pentagon renovation worker and retired Army officer, he was inspecting newly installed telecommunications wiring inside the five-story, 6.5-million-square-foot building. The tall, soft-spoken Probst had a 10 a.m. meeting. About 9:25 a.m., he stopped by the renovation workers’ trailer just south of the Pentagon heliport. Someone had a television turned on in the trailer’s break room that showed smoke pouring out of the twin towers in New York. “The Pentagon would make a pretty good target,” someone in the break room commented. The thought stuck with Probst as he picked up his notebook and walked to the North Parking Lot to attend his meeting. Probst took a sidewalk alongside Route 27, which runs near the Pentagon’s western face. Traffic was at a standstill because of a road accident. Then, at about 9:35 a.m., he saw the airliner in the cloudless September sky. American Airlines Flight 77 approached from the west, coming in low over the nearby five-story Navy Annex on a hill overlooking the Pentagon. He has lights off, “wheels up, nose down,” Probst recalled. The plane seemed to be accelerating directly toward him. He froze. “I knew I was dead,” he said later. “The only thing I thought was, ‘Damn, my wife has to go to another funeral, and I’m not going to see my two boys again.’” He dove to his right. He recalls the engine passing on one side of him, about six feet away.

      Jack Singleton. “Where the plane came in was really at the construction entrance,” says Jack Singleton, president of Singleton Electric Co. Inc., Gaithersburg MD, the Wedge One electrical subcontractor. “The plane’s left wing actually came in near the ground and the right wing was tilted up in the air. That right wing went directly over our trailer, so if that wing had not tilted up, it would have hit the trailer. My foreman, Mickey Bell, had just walked out of the trailer and was walking toward the construction entrance.”

      Mickey Bell. The jet came in from the south and banked left as it entered the building, narrowly missing the Singleton Electric trailer and the on-site foreman, Mickey Bell. Bell had just left the trailer when he heard a loud noise. The next thing he recalled was picking himself off the floor, where he had been thrown by the blast. Bell, who had been less than 100 feet from the initial impact of the plane, was nearly struck by one of the plane’s wings as it sped by him. In shock, he got into his truck, which had been parked in the trailer compound, and sped away.

      Mark Bright. Defense Protective Service officers were the first on the scene of the terrorist attack. One, Mark Bright, actually saw the plane hit the building. He had been manning the guard booth at the Mall Entrance to the building. [Is there any way this officer would not have known about an explosion prior to the impact?] “I saw the plane at the Navy Annex area,” he said. “I knew it was going to strike the building because it was very, very low — at the height of the street lights. It knocked a couple down.” The plane would have been seconds from impact — the annex is only a few hundred yards from the Pentagon. He said he heard the plane “power-up” just before it struck the Pentagon. “As soon as it struck the building I just called in an attack, because I knew it couldn’t be accidental,” Bright said. He jumped into his police cruiser and headed to the area.

      Omar Campo. “It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane”, Mr Campo said. “I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here.”

      Michael DiPaula, 41, project coordinator Pentagon Renovation Team – He left a meeting in the Pentagon just minutes before the crash, looking for an electrician who didn’t show, in a construction trailer less than 75 feet away. Suddenly, an airplane roared into view, nearly shearing the roof off the trailer before slamming into the E ring. ‘It sounded like a missile,’ DiPaula recalls . . . Buried in debris and covered with airplane fuel, he was briefly listed by authorities as missing, but eventually crawled from the flaming debris and the shroud of black smoke unscathed.

      William Yeingst. Just prior to the impact there were three firemen on the helipad at the Pentagon. The president was supposed to land at the helipad two hours after the impact, and so they had just pulled the foam truck out of the firehouse and were standing there when they looked up and saw the plane coming over the Navy Annex building. They turned and ran, and at the point of impact were partially shielded by their fire truck from the flying debris of shrapnel and flames. They were knocked to the ground by the concussion, were able to get up, go over to the fire truck, and initially they were able to get it started to call for help at Fort Myer. And then they had to put out parts of their uniform–their bunker gear was actually on fire, so the first thing they had to do was put out their own fire truck and their fire equipment and they tried to start the truck and move it, but they discovered that it wouldn’t move. They got out and looked, and the whole back of the fire truck had melted.

  33. jdseanjd says:

    If you’re going to stage a huge false flag lie, you’re going to pay off wnackers to backstop it.
    1) 2 planes can’t cause 3 perfectly controlled demolitions.
    2) internal fires cannot cause 3 perfectly controlled demolitions.
    End of.
    QED.

  34. jdseanjd says:

    The true nature of the Oligarchy behind the muppet Western Govts revealed:

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/council-on-foreign-relations-grand-strategy-china-must-be-defeated-the-tpp-is-essential-to-undermining-china/5447397

    World hegemony at any price is the aim of the Rothschild + minions who own the West.

    Even at the cost of sacrificing 3,000 US citizens to build the big hate against Muslims, to justify how many invasions of Muslim countries since 9/11? To pave the road toward WWIII?

    Does anyone seriously think that climate is the only lie being fed to us?

  35. jdseanjd says:

    I’m pleased you’ve taken so much time & trouble to denigrate this lady, Troll.
    To me, it rather indicates you can’t deal with the facts of the matter & therefore attack the person instead. Classic Troll training & tactics. In just the same way is Lord Monckton attacked. In exactly the same fashion has Willie Soon been attacked. Pure vicious hard left lies & hatred. Pure Saul Alinsky tactics. Says Raul Grijalva of his attacks on the astrophysicist of impeccable reputation, Willie Soon: “I’m a Saul Alinsky type of Guy.”
    FYI, though it sounds like you’ve already swallowed it whole:

    http://www.bestofbeck.com/wp/activism/saul-alinskys-12-rules-for-radicals

    • gator69 says:

      To me, it rather indicates you can’t deal with the facts of the matter…

      You like the fact that she lied about there being no plane parts?

      • jdseanjd says:

        How difficult is it to take a few photos & display them?
        Like the photos the Neo-Nazis put in power in the Ukraine showed Jim Inhofe to “prove” falsely a Russian invasion?
        The photos were from the Georgian conflict over South Ossetia, from years previously.
        The Neo-Nazis were put in power by the State Dept’s Victoria Nuland. Only cost the beleagured US small taxpayer $5 Billion to oust the democratically elected President.
        A bargain, huh?
        http://www.globalresearch.ca

        • gator69 says:

          In the middle of DC in braod daylight with 136 witnesses? 😆

          https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/pentagonattackpage2

          From the lists above, 136 people saw the plane approach the Pentagon, and
          104 directly saw the plane hit the Pentagon.

          6 were nearly hit by the plane in front of the Pentagon. Several others were within 100-200 feet of the impact.

          26 mentioned that it was an American Airlines jet.

          39 others mentioned that it was a large jet/commercial airliner.

          2 described a smaller corporate jet. 1 described a “commuter plane” but didn’t mention the size.

          7 said it was a Boeing 757.

          8 witnesses were pilots. One witness was an Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower Chief.

          2 witnesses were firefighters working on their truck at the Pentagon heliport.

          4 made radio calls to inform emergency services that a plane had hit the Pentagon.

          10 said the plane’s flaps and landing gear were not deployed (1 thought landing gear struck a light pole).

          16 mentioned seeing the plane hit light poles/trees, or were next to to the poles when it happened. Another 8 mentioned the light poles being knocked down: it’s unknown if they saw them hit.

          42 mentioned seeing aircraft debris. 4 mentioned seeing airline seats. 3 mentioned engine parts.

          2 mentioned bodies still strapped into seats.

          15 mentioned smelling or contacting aviation/jet fuel.

          3 had vehicles damaged by light poles or aircraft debris. Several saw other occupied vehicles damaged.

          3 took photographs of the aftermath.

          Many mentioned false alarm warnings of other incoming planes after the crash. One said “3-4 warnings.”

          And of course,

          0 saw a military aircraft or missile strike the Pentagon.

          0 saw a plane narrowly miss the Pentagon and fly away.

          https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pentagonflight77evidencesummary

  36. jdseanjd says:

    The Pentagon evidence defies common sense: A 10 ft diameter hole, a single hole?
    Implying the nosecone? I’ve seen photos of soft & lightly built nosecons completely stoven in by collision with a goose, FFS.
    Where’s the damage done by the two 6 ton engines? To the Pentagon lawn or the building itself?
    Nada. Zilch. Nowt. Not there. Plus the flight path was impossible.

    You’re proving yourself a complete goose, keeping producing all this sh1te, Troll.

    • gator69 says:

      No, you defy common sense, and deny facts.

      https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/pentagonattackpage2

      From the lists above, 136 people saw the plane approach the Pentagon, and
      104 directly saw the plane hit the Pentagon.

      6 were nearly hit by the plane in front of the Pentagon. Several others were within 100-200 feet of the impact.

      26 mentioned that it was an American Airlines jet.

      39 others mentioned that it was a large jet/commercial airliner.

      2 described a smaller corporate jet. 1 described a “commuter plane” but didn’t mention the size.

      7 said it was a Boeing 757.

      8 witnesses were pilots. One witness was an Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower Chief.

      2 witnesses were firefighters working on their truck at the Pentagon heliport.

      4 made radio calls to inform emergency services that a plane had hit the Pentagon.

      10 said the plane’s flaps and landing gear were not deployed (1 thought landing gear struck a light pole).

      16 mentioned seeing the plane hit light poles/trees, or were next to to the poles when it happened. Another 8 mentioned the light poles being knocked down: it’s unknown if they saw them hit.

      42 mentioned seeing aircraft debris. 4 mentioned seeing airline seats. 3 mentioned engine parts.

      2 mentioned bodies still strapped into seats.

      15 mentioned smelling or contacting aviation/jet fuel.

      3 had vehicles damaged by light poles or aircraft debris. Several saw other occupied vehicles damaged.

      3 took photographs of the aftermath.

      Many mentioned false alarm warnings of other incoming planes after the crash. One said “3-4 warnings.”

      And of course,

      0 saw a military aircraft or missile strike the Pentagon.

      0 saw a plane narrowly miss the Pentagon and fly away.

      https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pentagonflight77evidencesummary

  37. jdseanjd says:

    3 of the top people resigned in disgust from the NIST investigation commission.
    Publicised?
    Nope.

    • gator69 says:

      And that proves nothing.

      But 136 witnesses who all corroborate the plane strike at the Pentagon proves Barbara Honegger is crazy, a liar, or both.

  38. jdseanjd says:

    Face some more lies, Troll.
    The origins of ISIS? An outgrowth of Al Qaeda, which was set up by CIA/MI6 secret forces to oust the now long dead USSR from Afghanistan, which NATO invaded, in large part to regain the poppy fields the Taliban had reduced to almost zero. The successful occupation of this never country sees the poppy fields at an historic maximum & HSBC bank receives a slap on the wrist fine, of ~ 5 weeks profits, for 10 years of laundering drug money. Nice work, huh?
    scgnews.com/the-covert-origins-of-isis

  39. jdseanjd says:

    Link comes up OK on my laptop.

    OK, so http://www.scgnews.com
    & scroll down to: The Covert Origins of ISIS

    Enjoy.

  40. Gail Combs says:

    R. de Haan just said on another thread: “…..What is very clear to me is that this kind of practices not only happen in the UA but also in Europe. Just like the simaltanious publication of the climate change horror stories and the directive to transform 40% of our food crops into bio ethanol…..

    There is this strong perception that they have started a war on us, our civilization en the rest of the world.

    Some people think we are at war and the enemy is within.”
    ………….

    It certainly looks like doesn’t it?
    Actually Henry Kissinger stated the plan quite clearly in 1970 ~
    “Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control the people; control money and you control the world.”
    It is really simple when you match the actions to words.
    The rest of my comment”

    My wake-up was Nicole’s well researched History, HACCP and the Food Safety Con Job The decision was made by the Council on Economic Development in 1947 to get rid of independent US farmers and the Council on Economic Development is still alive and well in the University of North Carolina and still targeting farmers.
    Property Tax Breaks for Farms in NC: A Development Tool in Need of Reform?

    CED Guest Author
    $200 million. That’s the estimated property tax revenue North Carolina’s 100 counties defer each year under the state’s present-use value (“PUV”) property tax exclusion program for farms and other favored properties. And by “defer,” I really mean “lose,” because most of those deferred PUV taxes will never be collected….

    These people are long term planners and DO NOT GIVE UP!

    I will repeat R. de Haan’s words
    There is this strong perception that they have started a war on us, our civilization en the rest of the world.

    Some people think we are at war and the enemy is within.”

    Why ever would we think 9/11 was NOT orchestrated from behind the scenes?

    This has nothing to do with the crap the 9/11 truthers put out. The airplanes hitting buildings happened. The Saudi connection is real. It has to do with who was pulling the strings behind the scenes — a one off by crazies or orchestrated?

    • Gail Combs says:

      The attack was on September 11, 2001
      This is a bit of news from over ten years ago while Bush was in office and 9/11 should still have been fresh in the minds of the US government.

      December 30, 2003 Ford Has a Better Idea: One Nation Under Allah

      “To most Americans, it may seem unlikely that the U.S. Constitution could — or should — ever be revised to conform to strict Islamic law. But an educational program funded by the Ford Foundation has explored that very possibility, challenging our right to unfettered freedom of speech. The program, administered by the woefully misnamed Constitutional Rights Foundation, asks students to ponder how the Constitution could be amended or otherwise interpreted to prohibit blasphemy against Allah. . . .”

      The Ford Foundation, HMMM Obama’s Mama Ann Dunham was employed by the Ford Foundation in Indonesia….

      The Ford Foundation again.
      December 27, 2003 Grassley to review Ford Foundation’s support for Palestinian extremists

      …a Jewish Telegraphic Agency series detailing Ford’s support for Palestinian NGOs crusading against Israel, the Iowa Republican has announced that the Senate Finance Committee will review the matter.”

      One matter he should review is that of “PNGO–an umbrella group of 90 Palestinian NGOs that’s also received more than $1 million from Ford. Its director is quoted as admitting that PNGO gets almost no Arab support and that Ford is its biggest funder…..

      December 26, 2003 Jihad in Tennessee

      ….“Mustafa Saied, a former University of Tennessee student and member of the Muslim Brotherhood, told the Wall Street Journal in a story published Tuesday that money raised at the Annoor Mosque ostensibly for poor civilians actually went to Muslim warriors.”….

      Saied is an executive at a Florida environmental-testing firm. Said’s tale offers a glimpse into how secretive organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood operate in the United States. ‘Anti-American sentiment is usually reserved for closed-door discussions or expressed in languages that most Americans don’t understand,’ Saied told Wall Street Journal reporter Paul M. Barrett. ‘While such rhetoric has been drastically reduced since 9/11, it is still prevalent enough to be a cause for concern.’”

      Continuing the College Recruitment Centers theme:
      December 17, 2003 College Film Festival: Kill the Jews

      …..She reviews a university film festival, “Exploring the Israeli-Palestinian Issue through Film.” Says Menaker: “What is strikingly serious in all these films is that if one were to count the most often used words, these words would be ‘humiliation’ and ‘Kill the Jews!’ Even in the most peaceful and idealistic documentary, made by a Jewish director, a young boy asked what he wants to do when he grows up is prompted by his father: ‘Kill the Jews!

      “Nathan Scharansky, an Israeli minister, can hardly be described as a person easily susceptible to panic. A dissident and political prisoner, he was not scared to stand alone against the KGB in a Soviet Gulag. But after touring six American Universities last month, he wrote that the situation ‘on campuses in the United States and Canada is more serious than we think. And this is truly frightening.’….

      ‘While such rhetoric has been drastically reduced since 9/11, it is still prevalent enough to be a cause for concern.” — Mustafa Saied

      ……

      To toss the gator cat among the pigeons

      The Architect and Engineers group, shown in the vid in stevengoddard’s On the Other-Hand APPEAR to be either a front for some Muslims or a US Government Honeypot according to a brief look Hubby (a physicist) just did.

      • gator69 says:

        Hey Gail! What book is that? It would make sense for an Islamist group to forward such a theory, and I am always willing to look at evidence that has not already been thoroughly discredited. Can you give me some more info?

        • Gail Combs says:

          Hubby say he thinks he looked at http://911thermitefree.blogspot.co.uk/
          and started following the links. (He tossed the info after a brief look.)
          He said he sort of remembers them having Louis Farrakhan as a speaker.

          And yes I agree an Islamist group forwarding the theory BUSH DID IT makes sense. (Sure sounds familiar…)

          My question mark as I said was who high up was pulling the strings.

          For the USA to have a ‘War on Terrorism’ and allow terrorist organizations to recruit on campus, recruit from prisons and set-up training camps like Islamburg New York while manhandling ‘terrorist’ Grannys in walkers and ‘terrorist’ three year olds in wheel chairs makes no sense unless there is some real power behind what has happened in the last fifteen years or so and everything is not as it seems.

          It is clear there are those who crave money, power, and a world government have no problem killing as the millions who died from outlawing DDT shows, as the millions who starved due to the 2008 food crisis shows and as those dying from fuel poverty makes clear. 9/11 was just a bit more dramatic but it certainly achieved the goal of tearing the Constitution to shreds rather rapidly.

          Remember the Fabians have no problems with infiltrating or joining forces with other groups to further their ultimate goals.

          It is already known the Fabians were active in the Middle East
          FABIAN SOCIETY PHAMPHLET in EGYPT
          From Dictator to Democracy was seen in Egypt

          As journalists have sought to untangle the disparate threads that unite these uprisings, one of the most interesting revelations has been a common reference to a dusty — but still relevant — book, “From Dictatorship to Democracy.”

          Earlier this month, the New York Times proclaimed its author, Gene Sharp, a “shy intellectual” who had created “the playbook for revolution” — noting that his work was posted on the Muslim Brotherhood website during the Egyptian uprising, and was cited equally among Tunisians, Bosnians and Estonians in their quest for freedom. So far, it has been translated into 41 languages….
          http://www.politicsdaily.com/2011/02/25/after-egypt-and-libya-whats-next-for-those-still-under-dictato/

          Look who has free e-books including Gene Sharp’s “From Dictatorship to Democracy.”
          Fabian Essays In Socialism

        • gator69 says:

          Thanks Gail! I just reviewed the info, and AE911 reminds me of the Scientologists, it appears to be a money and power thing. Sell books, and ads on web sites, for fun and profit. 😉

          It starts out with a cuckoo theory promoted by crazy people and integrity-free professional con men who pump every conspiracy that comes down the line. The crazy people push the conspiracy theory because they’re paranoid and don’t understand how the world works while the sleazy hucksters promote it because conspiracies sell on the web. Eventually, as the conspiracy starts to draw a crowd, more imitators pop up and the crazies and flimflam men create a vast web of references to each other…

          So, when the average person starts to research a conspiracy theory on the Internet, he finds an endless array of conspiracy websites, all linking back and forth, while the doubters largely remain on the sidelines. After seeing only one side of the story, many people who don’t know any better conclude, “Well, I GUESS this could be real.”

          http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2011/04/05/10_questions_for_911_truthers/page/full

          Gage was obviously trying to distance himself from the more serious nutjobs, in an attempt to widen his audience. I am still going over his claims, and I am finding everything from ignorance to outright fraud on his part. One of his favorite things to say is, “The debate is over”. Sound familiar?

        • gator69 says:

          As for why we do coddle dangerous foreign interests, there are a number of reasons. Everything from economic and political inetersts, to the Nazi PC race baiter attacks on common sense.

          The left loves to demonize everyone else as racist bigots everytime we try to protect our borders, culture, or citizenry from dangerous outside influences. People have become so afraid to tell the truth, where it really matters, that we have created this false impression that diversity is strength, and criticizing other cultures is evil.

          This is how we get events like the Iranian foreign minister’s speech at NYU last month. Not one women’s rights group showed up. Not one gay rights group showed up. Not one group of protesters showed up, except this guy…

          Students practically riot when an American conservative dares to speak at their universities, but they are so brainwashed by the left, that they welcome mass murderers.

      • gator69 says:

        Gage’s group does seem to get their best response from Muslims…

        AE911Truth has also reached out to Islamic institutions with outstanding results. In 2009, Gage spoke at the Al Aman Mosque in New Jersey to a group of nearly 300. At the beginning of the presentation, 103 members of the audience supported the official explanation for the WTC catastrophe; afterwards, all but four attendees agreed with the evidence for controlled demolition.
        The most recent outreach to the Muslim community occurred at the annual meeting of the Nation of Islam in Chicago, Illinois, on February 25. Gage joined 9/11 whistleblower Kevin Ryan on stage as he detailed the scientific and eyewitness evidence that proves the Twin Towers and WTC Building 7 were brought down with explosives. The crowd of over 3000 attendees responded at the end with a standing ovation.

        http://www1.ae911truth.org/faqs/626-science-and-faith-come-together-ae911truth-religious-outreach-continues-to-make-an-impact.html

        AE911 also has listed about half a dozen “churches” where they spoke years ago. I just checked out these “churches” through their web sites, and found that every one of them has leftist ideologies. They preach “social justice”, “sustainability”, “economic equality”, “mother earth”, and have “Earth Day” events and the like. One of the “churches” had members ranging from Atheists to Hindus, and everything in between. Marxist tendencies abound in all of them.

        • Gail Combs says:

          Ain’t digging to expose the stinking slime behind the facade fun?

          That is why the Progs really really hate us.

  41. Gail Combs says:

    Gator,

    Here is more: EXCLUSIVE–Pamela Geller Calls Out Cowardly Conservatives, Says She’ll Organize Another Free Speech Event in Near Future **FULL IMAGE GALLERY**

    Breitbart News: Does the Left apply a double standard when it comes to criticism of Islam and its reporting on the events that unfold in the Islamic world?

    Pamela Geller: Certainly. It is a matter of policy: several years ago I wrote an article about how the Society of Professional Journalists issued guidelines after 9/11 that forbid journalists from any reportage that would associate Islam with jihad terrorism. They always report on jihad attacks as perpetrated by “militants,” “insurgents,” and the like, and do all they can to obscure the Islamic ideology and motivations of the perpetrators.

    The cartoons are great!
    The comments are really great!

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