New York Times Shows Little Change In Arctic Sea Ice Since 1971

The New York Times is highlighting this map today.

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Their map shows minimum ice extent to be very similar to the National Geographic map from 1971

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Arctic Ocean Map 1971 by National Geographic from

In 1958, The New York Times predicted the Arctic would be ice-free by now

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The Changing Face of the Arctic – Article –

Unfortunately, they have no actual journalists remaining at the New York Times to do any fact checking.

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9 Responses to New York Times Shows Little Change In Arctic Sea Ice Since 1971

  1. Andy DC says:

    If alarmists started their sea ice charts in 1931 or even 1971, you would get a totally different impression from starting them in 1979 as they do.

    • cfgjd says:

      Oh RLY? So what is the best skeptic estimate on arctic sea ice volume in 1931? What is the number based on? We know quite a bit of the weather at that time thanks to reanalysis and weather modelling…

      • pinroot says:

        ‘Reanalysis’ and ‘weather modeling’, yeah, that’s better than actual observations, because you can tweak things to get the ‘right’ answers.

      • hskiprob says:

        I find it interesting that all these weather models end up being wrong. To many hypotheticals. There are just to many variables. How do you know if rising atmospheric co2 is caused by either increases in solar flares, other pollutions, volcanic and seismic activities or the shifting of the earth’s axis etc. etc. etc.? This article attempts to explain just how the earth’s axis shift can effect where you live. This is an old “CNN” article and estimated, we only have until 2020 before where you live would now be the north pole, if you lived on the equator. At the bottom of the article, in my opinion really sums it up. “The info shown on this site is courtesy of NASA, USGS, NOAA, NWS, SOHO and your American Tax dollars which fund them.”

        Government must legitimize their existence and like the cold war, much of the intelligence evidence provided by government agencies such as the CIA during that period were also wrong, after we were able to enter the region and found the truth after the collapse of the USSR. CIA agents lied because they did not believe they would eventually be exposed and it was always a lie that made the Soviets appear more dangerous than they really were. It was the domino effect during Viet Nam – the “Red Scare” as some called it or was that WWII.

        With the actual global warming scientific studies, if you try to actually read them, there are so many caveats, that coming up with any conclusion take a s leap of faith. So they get non-scientific journalists to do the guessing for them but the articles are laced with various logical fallacies that many people just aren’t willing to acknowledge.

        If we are warming and our axis is shifting, we surely can only guess as to why. I think the shifting may be just a natural phenomena. The world is constantly changing. We may be getting farther from the sum or our moon may be getting closer. That’s up to the honest scientists to try to figure out but stop falling for every journalist who is trying to gain more readership. As Thomas Jefferson stated, the most honest thing in a newspaper is the advertising and all news sources are commercially driven. H. Skip Robinson – BetweenThe

        • “Government must legitimize their existence and like the cold war …”

          The very existence, Skip? To whom? Most people accept the need for some form of government. I don’t know of many true anarchists and I doubt you do. There just aren’t that many of them. The real argument is about the size and role of government and most people including libertarians and small-government conservatives believe that national security is a legitimate government task.

          Also, you don’t create any credibility for the skeptical argument by comparing a completely theoretical AGW threat to the very real threat the totalitarian Communist killing machines were and still are to the people inside and outside their borders. Our intelligence agencies were frequently wrong in their assessments but the Soviet Union didn’t survive and rampage through the world for over 70 years because “CIA agents lied”.

          Drive-by warmist trolls like cfgjd don’t come here to engage in a serious scientific argument. They represent the same idea of Gleichschaltung used by every other totalitarian system in history. Based on your disposition, you may choose to mock them or argue with them but never forget who they really are. It doesn’t matter which ones know exactly what they are doing and which ones are just morons marching in lockstep. Much of the time you can’t tell the difference because by definition they sound the same.

          Don’t marginalize the threat and power of totalitarianism. It killed hundreds of millions before and it will again if we fail to understand it.

      • DD More says:

        Some paid attention during class. CF not so much.
        [Under date of October 10 1922 the American consul at Bergen Norway , submitted the following report to the State Department, Washington, D. C.)
        In August, 1922, the Norwegian Department of Commerce sent an expedition to Spitzbergen and Bear Island under the leadership of Dr. Adolf Hoel,
        The oceanographic observations have, however, been even more interesting. Ice conditions were exceptional. In fact, so little ice has never before been noted. The expedition all but established a record, sailing as far north its 81’-29” in ice-free water. This is the farthest north ever reached with modern oceanographic apparatus. The character of the waters of the great polar basin has heretofore been practically unknown. Dr. Hoel reports that he made a section of the Gulf Stream at 81′ north latitude and took soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters. These show the Gulf Stream very warm, and it could be traced as a surface current till beyond the 81st parallel.

        Click to access mwr-050-11-0589a.pdf

        Warmth & melting started in the 1920’s.

  2. omanuel says:

    Thanks, Steven, for having the analytical ability to see and the courage to report deceit disguised as 97% Consensus Science.

    Thanks to your efforts, the dots (•) are now being connected that may yet unmask Stalin as the modern-day Wizard of Oz before this country’s demise!

  3. Timo Franz says:

    Just saying: you are comparing apples to oranges. NatGeo uses multi-year (perennial) sea-ice in their Atlas, while the NYTimes map is showing sea-ice extent which is much much larger than the multi-year ice as it also includes younger, freshly formed ice. If you wanna compare apples to apples have a look at this article showing NatGeo’s multi-year ice sharply declining:

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