Moron In Chief Talks About Russia

You just can’t make up stupid and treacherous like Barack Obama.


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    • V. Uil says:

      Europe is heading to a civil war. They do that from time to time. Every time the Germans try to destroy Europe (which happens regularly) the man in the street has to fight back.

      And, of course, the duplicitous Swedes, usually stay neutral. But this time it may be different. Even the usually neutral Swedes are a bit pissed off that Sweden has become the rape capital of Europe. The problem there is that the Infidel women are just too sexy for Ahmed.

  1. sophie says:

    There are more recent protests thant Dec, but they are not showing yet

  2. Robertv says:

    USA ,Russia or China are too big to invade. You would need too many boots on the ground. They all know this . But don’t worry it would be over in more or less 2 hours.

    Let’s go back to the real problems we face like Global Warming sorry Climate Change.

    • Gail Combs says:

      Dr. Peter Vincent Pry has been trying to get this idiotic Obummer Admin to MOVE on protecting the grid from a nuclear EMP attack from North Korea or Iran. He says an attack will wipe out 90% of the population.

      Clinton gave the Chinese the guidance system to get that nuke here as well as giving the Chines our best nuke

      July 2015 International Policy Digest: Strategic Alliance: China-North Korea

      The relationship between China and North Korea has evolved over time since it began during the Korean War. China fought alongside North Korea during the Korean War to protect their mutual ideology of Communism (at the time at least), maintain border control and safeguard sovereignty. Today both states view each other as allies sharing common values and converged interests….
      In the political and security arena, China’s continuous support for the regime in North Korea has enabled Kim Jong-Un to gain much needed political support to sustain his regime and provides a balance against other powers like the United States or the United States-South Korean Alliance. The 1961 Sino-North Korean Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance states that China will come to the aid of North Korea should it suffer an unprovoked attack by its adversaries. Military exchanges are also evident between the two states. In November 23, 2009, Chinese Defense Minister, Liang Guanglie, visited Pyongyang in order to promote friendly exchanges and cooperation between the armed forces and the people…

      China ‘objects’ to North Korea nuclear bomb tests — at least in public.

      Russia mean while is cozying up to Iran.

      Russian President Vladimir Putin (R) greets Iran’s President Hassan Rouhani in Ufa, Russia, July 9, 2015. Rouhani said he was grateful to Russia for its efforts to secure an agreement at talks between six major powers and Iran on Tehran’s nuclear program. (photo by REUTERS/Sergei Karpukhin)

      SEE: Iran-Russia relations after nuclear deal

      (Not my favorite for a source but they get the gist of the problem.)

      The potential of a devastating attack to the US power grid by nuclear states such as North Korea or Iran has prompted the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) to return to its former location inside Cheyenne Mountain near Colorado Springs, Colorado, two former Reagan-era government officials write in The Wall Street Journal.

      “Why the return?” write Henry F. Cooper and Peter Vincent Pry. “Because the enormous bunker in the hollowed-out mountain, built to survive a Cold War-era nuclear conflict, can also resist an electromagnetic-pulse attack, or EMP.”
      While the Pentagon is moving to shield its global air defense command from being knocked out by an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack, the Obama administration has failed to act on urgent recommendations to protect the country’s civilian electronic infrastructure from a similar catastrophe, they write.

      “An EMP strike, most likely from the detonation of a nuclear weapon in space, would destroy unprotected military and civilian electronics nationwide, blacking out the electric grid and other critical infrastructure for months or years,” Cooper and Pry write.

      “The staggering human cost of such a catastrophic attack is not difficult to imagine.”

      The likeliest source of such an attack would be North Korea or Iran, according to Cooper, former director of the Strategic Defense Initiative, launched by the late President Ronald Reagan, and Pry, executive director of the EMP Task Force on National and Homeland Security and a veteran of the Central Intelligence Agency.

      Iran is a nuclear-ready state with ballistic missiles capable of striking the United States now, Cooper, Pry and and two other Reagan administration alumni wrote…

      We really do have traitors in DC!

  3. gator69 says:

    Yes, the Romney haters should be really proud of themselves by now.

  4. exmaschine says:

    Reblogged this on The Road to Revelation and commented:
    The National Socialists of the West doing their SAME old song & dance about the East and Russia. DEFLECTING Nationalistic Western Order tactics which they impose on their own people, while pointing to a strong and powerful leader that Mr Putin is. The fact is, that the West is frightened of a strong Putin and Russia, especially one that is nuclear armed. Three cheers for those who stand up to the new Nazi’s of the Fourth Reich in the West. It’s gonna be a showdown…like Tesla said, East vs West…AND this time…the outcome will most likely be very different. I just I hope I’m still around to see the reversal of fortune from an arrogant, war-mongering, elitist-bankster run nation.

    • gator69 says:

      How was Dodd-Frank possible in a “bankster run nation”?

      • exmaschine says:

        You’re kidding me right? You’re trolling?

        • gator69 says:

          No not at all. I have worked for two major banks, and both vehemently opposed Obama and excessive government regulations. Those who do not work in the industry are often clueless.

        • exmaschine says:

          First off, if you have worked for two major banks, then you must understand the power of the Central Banksters in the FR. If you don’t, I would be shocked. Knowing the corrupted workings of the CB and those investment banksters who essentially run it, you’re statement make no sense whatsoever.

        • exmaschine says:

          Secondly, the notion that obama is anything but an economic fascist cheerleader/supporter is sheer ignorance on the part of millions if not billions. The us gov has morphed into a streamlined model of National Socialism, going back to the 1920’s. Once the FR was created and the gov was RELIANT on borrowing money from a bankster, the Bankster become the puppet master. Those who lend the money, can dictate the terms, which includes everything from financial to economic to social policies of a nation. Our justice system has become a Corporate-run system, just as the industrialized prison system has.

        • gator69 says:

          You are conflating wealthy businessmen with bankers. You should sit in on actual boardroom meetings with actual CEO’s and hear what bankers really think, and what they really want.

          You could also blame white men, because virtually all of those who are to blame are white.

        • exmaschine says:

          Oh boy. I can see you cling to ideological and statist ideas. I have found over a decade plus, that it is impossible to argue with a statist. Given the fact that you have been surrounded by propaganda from banksters and the financial world, your pov is very skewed. I suggest you forget or at least disregard all that you have been ‘taught’ by your banksters friends by you’re progressive professors and the like over your lifetime. I suggest starting to read and understand what National Socialism was and still is in the West. Study up on Economic Fascism from Italy and Germany. Really study up on it. Start following Against Crony Capitalism, and Zerohedge for a start. if you’re reading the wsj, fox business news, cnn or mndnc…you’re a statist. All those msm outlets are pandering to their core supporters. Ideologues. Left and Right progressives. if you support either party, you are in fact a statist. Until you can distance yourself from the theater, from the lies and the blind support of the corrupted political process, you will never see things for what they are. Good luck, though I doubt you will have any sort of epiphany….

        • gator69 says:

          Once again, I am a Jeffersonian Libertarian, and abhor Progressives and Big Brother. You are wildly off the mark on me, and banking.

        • exmaschine says:

          Nice try…lmao! -A Jefferson Libertarian!

          What’s really funny is that your remarks are exactly the same as those who supported the Third-Reich. Your veil is paper thin and the fraudulent bullshit, rhetoric you peddle is for ignoramuses and fools who would swallow it…

        • gator69 says:

          Thanks for confirming that you spew things about which you know nothing.

          Care to show me why banks would want Dodd-Frank, or is another rant more your style?

        • exmaschine says:

          Another Pseudo Libertarian heard from…Such a moron, such a muppet…you really should get some help for your mental disorder Fozzie. Go peddle your National Socialist propaganda elsewhere douche. When you understand how disabled you truly are, then perhaps we could have a discourse. But as long as you ignore your mental affliction, there’s really no hope for the ideologues like yourself…

        • gator69 says:

          Yes, I was right. All that you had left was a hateful rant. Enjoy your darkness.

        • exmaschine says:

          LMFAO! Uh huh. Great analyses…
          Keep supporting the Fourth Reich!
          I just hope I live to see the defeat of the West!

        • gator69 says:

          Hope for doom, just like the alarmists. Nice touch.

        • exmaschine says:

          Not doom, but a reset. A lesson you and the rest of the Nazi sympathizers NEED! Time of the West is declining. Time for the East to rise and prosper. America and the West are poison to the rest of the rest of the world. You along with the billions of enablers and supporters deserve to be jailed or hanged. I just hope I’m still alive to see the destruction. Here’s hoping the tide of devastation washes it all away…and all of us along with it!

        • gator69 says:

          OK, let me see if I have this right.

          1- I am a Nazi sympathyzer because I pointed out that Dodd-Frank would never have seen the light of day if banks actually ran our government, and because I am a Jeffersonian Libertarian.

          2- I deserved to be hanged because I pointed out that Dodd-Frank would never have seen the light of day if banks actually ran our government, and because I am a Jeffersonian Libertarian.

          3- The West deserves defeat by the East because America and the West are poison.

          4- You just hope you’re still alive to see the destruction, and you are hoping the tide of devastation washes it all away…and all of us along with it!

          Definition of DOOMER 1: a prognosticator of doom

          I hope that works out for you, really.

        • exmaschine says:

          Doomer? Nice try at deflecting the truth Fozzie. Again, just I hope I live to see you and your kind get what they deserve! The us government is run by the bankster elite, Nazi’s of the Fourth Reich. Scumbag gov…scumbag nation. I know it’s hard to accept that you’re a scumbag enabler/sympathizer…but hey, the truth hurts muppet boy.

        • gator69 says:

          Wow! I never thought about it like that!

          But then I am sane.

          Have a nice day!

        • exmaschine says:

          Huh. Well I’m rightfully insulted that you suggest, no wait, claim that I am not sane!…nice day duly noted

        • exmaschine, if “those who lend the money, can dictate the terms”, then you should loan gator, say, $50,000 so that you can dictate to him. Then we’ll see who is sweating bullets while gator sends you postcards from the Caribbean with promises to pay you back real soon now.

          Lending and borrowing is a two-way street. Each party is dependent on the other, and both gain when the loan pays off.

        • exmaschine says:

          Thanks for ideological rhetoric chief. Great playbook remarks. Who writes your copy? Statism is a mental affliction, sadly you like millions suffer from a the psychosis of delusion. I will saimply not entertain bullshit from you or any other statist prick. You’re a National Socialist sympathize/supporter, either by choice or by ignorance. To that, I bid adu and you can go fuck yourself mate!

      • exmaschine says:

        Btw, dodd-frank is mostly a sham. It’s Kabuki Theaterfor the muppets of this nation. Given that you ‘worked’ for two major banks, I am stunned that you think DF constrains any real dealings of the investment and insurance bankster

        • gator69 says:

          Dodd-Frank is a bottomless pit of limitless regulation. It created an unelected committee with zero oversight, that is still writing new regulations, and for all financial instituions in this country.

          The view from inside is much clearer.

  5. gator69 says:

    Secondly, the notion that obama is anything but an economic fascist cheerleader/supporter is sheer ignorance on the part of millions if not billions. The us gov has morphed into a streamlined model of National Socialism, going back to the 1920’s. Once the FR was created and the gov was RELIANT on borrowing money from a bankster, the Bankster become the puppet master. Those who lend the money, can dictate the terms, which includes everything from financial to economic to social policies of a nation. Our justice system has become a Corporate-run system, just as the industrialized prison system has.

    As a Jeffersonian Libertarian, I cannot argue with many of your OT points. But I am still waituing to hear why “banksters” would force DF on themselves.

    • Gail Combs says:

      Gator you and exmaschine are confusing “banksters” = International Central Bankers, with individual bankers. They are two different beasts. What we saw was a carefully manipulated wealth and power transfer.

      It is easier to see with farming. Regulations and government decisions have forced most independent farmers out of business leaving only the big corporations. As Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz said to American farmers ” get big or get out!”

      Congressional Record
      106th Congress (1999-2000)

      On this date in 1996, both houses of Congress approved a new farm bill, described then as “the most sweeping change in agriculture since the Depression. It would get rid of government subsidies to farmers over the next seven years.”

      The bill has made sweeping changes in agriculture–it has produced one of the worst economic crises that rural American has ever experienced. Thanks to the Freedom to Farm, or as I call it the Freedom to Fail Act, tens of thousands of farm families are in jeopardy of losing their livelihoods and life savings.

      The Freedom to Farm bill is not saving tax payers money, in fact we have spent $19 billion more in the first 4 years of the 1996 farm bill than was supposed to be spent through the 7 year life of the law.

      However, what has resulted is the precipitous loss of family farmers because this legislation has not provided small and moderate sized farmers with a safety net. Instead payment loopholes have been inserted in legislation that has allowed the largest argibusiness corporations to receive the lions share of government support.

      In my State of Minnesota, family farm income has decreased 43 percent since 1996 and more than 25 percent of the remaining farms may not cover expenses for 2000. Every month more and more family farmers are being forced to give up their life’s work, their homes, and their communities.

      The primary problem is price. The average price paid to producers for their crops has plummeted. Farmers suffer from a negative cash flow. In Minnesota it costs $2.50 to grow a bushel of corn. Today the price of a bushel of corn in Minnesota sells at around $1.75 at the local elevator….

      The winner in that mess are the ten Ag mega-corporations that control about 80% of the world food supply.

      We see something similar with banks. NOTICE THIS WAS A GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER OF A PRIVATE BANK via a change in legislation!

      In November 2008, 30 days before his scheduled retirement, John Allison sat atop a black office tower in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, preparing to sign away his life’s work.

      He’d spent 37 years, his entire career, at BB&T (or, more formally, Branch Banking and Trust Company). When he arrived in 1971, it was an obscure farm bank with 250 employees and $250 million in assets. Allison became president in 1987 and chief executive in 1989, and by 2008 he was the longest-serving bank CEO in the United States. Under his leadership BB&T had grown into a bank holding company with 1,800 branches sprawling over 12 Southern states and Washington, D.C., among the top 10 banks in all but one of those markets. BB&T has 30,000 employees and over $150 billion in assets, making it the 12th largest U.S. bank.

      Now he was being forced to give substantial control of it to the U.S. government.

      And not because BB&T had failed, as so many other banks had in the terrifying banking crisis of 2008. No, BB&T was being punished because it had succeeded.

      BB&T had made no subprime mortgage loans. While other banks blew themselves up with high-fee negative amortization and “pick- a-payment” loans that supported a cancerous housing bubble, BB&T resisted temptation and wrote only conventional mortgages.

      Yet after Congress enacted the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), banking regulators forced even healthy banks to take government money, that is, to accept the government as a shareholder. That meant committing to pay the government hundreds of millions in preferred dividends, and giving up valuable warrants so that the government could later purchase common stock at fire-sale prices. Adding insult to injury, Allison had to sign a waiver that allowed the government to unilaterally change the terms of his compensation from the company he’d served for 38 years.

      But he had no choice. BB&T was a strong bank, with more than enough capital and more than enough liquidity to see it through the crisis, and a strong loan portfolio. Yet his banking examiner from the federal government told him that the rules had suddenly changed.

      According to Allison, “They called us and said, ‘Okay, we’ve had these capital rules forever, and you guys got a lot more capital based on those rules. But we’ve decided we’re going to have some new capital rules. And based on these new capital rules, we don’t think you have enough capital. Now, we don’t know what the rules are, but we’re confident that if you don’t take the TARP money, you won’t have enough capital.’ Now, we don’t know what the rules are, but we’re confident that if you don’t take the TARP money, you won’t have enough capital.’ ”1

      Allison knew that the bank examiner was just a messenger boy for his bosses in Washington, D.C., where the Federal Reserve under chairman Ben Bernanke was desperate to save a few insolvent mega- banks, even if the entire banking system had to pay the bill do it.

      Allison says, “There were three large financial institutions in serious trouble in the capital markets.” Presumably he means Citigroup, Bank of America, and General Electric Credit. But Bernanke didn’t want to reveal to the public how weak these three really were — so all banks would be forced to take TARP money. “He felt like if he forced all the large banks, all the $100 billion banks and over, to participate, the market couldn’t figure it out. . . . It was a huge rip-off for healthy banks.”

      For Allison, it all had a certain sense of déjà vu. Specifically, as he puts it, “It is right out of Atlas Shrugged. I mean, it’s eerie. It is eerie. It is eerie.”

      • gator69 says:

        gator69 says:
        October 1, 2015 at 2:42 pm
        You are conflating wealthy businessmen with bankers.

        It’s not me Gail, I know the difference, I am a banker.

        • gator69 says:

          And in addition the banks I worked for did not need or want TARP money, but we were forced into taking it just as we were forced to make bad loans, by the government.

          The root of all evil is government. Period.

        • Gail Combs says:

          “…The root of all evil is government. Period”

          Actually it is the power hungry sociopaths that want control starting with the first thug on horseback who convinced his buddies raiding a farming village and taking it over beat the heck out of actually working for a living.

          Our Founding Fathers tried to set up a government that would prevent the power hungry sociopaths from grabbing control but gradually they have managed to do just that.

          If the USA falls, the world will return to 100% slavery again and the idiotic Useful Idiots are busy begging for the slave collar.

        • gator69 says:

          No, our founders set up a government of the people, by the people and for the people. In other words, the people ran the government, and not the other way around. But today, the government writes the rules, and the people follow. Power hungry sociopaths are only able to make government work for them, because we have allowed government to become the base of all power. If our government were still on a leash, power hungry sociopaths would have no interest in it.

        • rah says:

          Carter began that crap and then Clinton expanded it even over the objection of his AG Janet Reno. And WE average Americans paid for it!

  6. Smokey says:

    I agree with gator69. Attacking “banksters” is pointless deflection. Sure, the gov’t will use any group for its own aggrandizement. But in the end, what matters is power. Not money. Not votes. Not Alinsky targets; POWER.

    The government has gotten too big. Its bureaucrats (EPA, Homeland Security, Fed, etc.) have become too powerful and too numerous. Half the population is on the dole now. Add those up, and what you have is an unaccountable, out of control government/bureaucracy complex that runs everything.

    Big gov’t just loves it when “the banksters” are blamed for our problems. But they are just convenient whipping boys for everything that is going wrong. (“Go get them ‘banksters,’ barks Robespierre.”)

    The real — and the only — problem in America is too much government. The USA is becoming like the EU; controlled by nameless, faceless, unelected bureaucrats who do the bidding of the electeds — and often times not even by them. The system itself has made it so cozy for the electeds that their #1 priority is to get re-elected. Nothing else comes close. Really, nothing else matters to the electeds.

    We’re about one step from a dictatorship in all but name. So, what can the average person do about it?

    Probably nothing. Me, I’m voting Trump. At least we can send some Islamists back to their Middle East Hell.

    • Gail Combs says:

      Smokey the politicians are just the puppets on the strings. I have spent years trying to ferret out who the Puppet Masters.
      Info on why Marxism is not what most think, but a means to re-instate serfdom. Start Here

      E. M. explains why corporations LOVE socialism link

      Thanks to a Supreme Court ruling,Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, the face of election funding changed for the worse.

      …The Citizens United ruling, released in January 2010, tossed out the corporate and union ban on making independent expenditures and financing electioneering communications. It gave corporations and unions the green light to spend unlimited sums on ads and other political tools, calling for the election or defeat of individual candidates.

      In a nutshell, the high court’s 5-4 decision said that it is OK for corporations and labor unions to spend as much as they want to convince people to vote for or against a candidate….

      that’s what led to the creation of the super PACs, which act as shadow political parties. They accept unlimited donations from billionaires, corporations and unions and use it to buy advertising, most of it negative.

      …. super PACs are required to report regularly on who their donors are. The same can’t be said for “social welfare” groups and some other nonprofits, like business leagues.[aka NGOs]

      These groups can function the same way as super PACs, so long as election activity is not their primary activity. But unlike the super PACs, nonprofits do not report who funds them. That’s disturbing to those who favor transparency in elections…..

      So that is who now control our elections via unlimited funding.

      What about the NGOs?
      Maurice Strong’s early work with YMCA international “…may have been the genesis of Strong’s realization that NGOs (non-government organizations) provide an excellent way to use NGOs to couple the money from philanthropists and business with the objectives of government.”

      “Very few of even the larger international NGOs are operationally democratic, in the sense that members elect officers or direct policy on particular issues,” notes Peter Spiro. “Arguably it is more often money than membership that determines influence, and money more often represents the support of centralized elites, such as major foundations, than of the grass roots.” The CGG has benefited substantially from the largesse of the MacArthur, Carnegie, and Ford Foundations. (wwwDOT)

      And finally the connections between the corporations and international banksters. As E. M. Smith said they are no longer ‘just Bankers’ but have branched out.

      Network of 147 Companies Controls Nearly 40% of Global Economic Value of Transnational Corporations

      When the team further untangled the web of ownership, it found much of it tracked back to a “super-entity” of 147 even more tightly knit companies – all of their ownership was held by other members of the super-entity – that controlled 40 per cent of the total wealth in the network. “In effect, less than 1 per cent of the companies were able to control 40 per cent of the entire network,” says Glattfelder. Most were financial institutions. The top 20 included Barclays Bank, JPMorgan Chase & Co, and The Goldman Sachs Group.

      The paper: The Network of Global Corporate Control

    • gator69 says:


      Blaming banks takes the focus off the real problem, Too Big to Fail Big Brother. Again, if banks ran the government, Dodd-Frank would have never seen the light of day.

    • Gail Combs says:

      Top 25 control-holders from above:

      The way these entities control so much is through investing YOUR money and splitting of control while limiting their financial exposure. It is a real win-win-win for them since they not only get control of the stock they also get paid no matter what happens. This is done via mutual funds or the like where YOUR money is invested but THEY vote the stock. SEE A Brief History Of The Mutual Fund


      1 BARCLAYS PLC – a global financial services holding company with 5 business segments: Personal and Corporate Banking, mortgages, investment management, credit card
      2 CAPITAL GROUP COMPANIES INC, maintained by Capital Bank and Trust Company (“trustee”), which has retained an affiliate to serve as investment adviser to the trustee for the CITs. comment on the proposed rule known as the “Volcker Rule”
      3 FMR CORP Fidelity Investments is a mutual fund owned and voted by the Johnson family.
      4 AXA – France, Retail banking, Asset management and other financial services, insurance large multinational companies, IT service provider
      5 STATE STREET CORPORATION – world’s leading providers of
      financial services to institutional investors
      6 JPMORGAN CHASE & CO. – a leading global financial services firm and one of the largest banking institutions in the United States , with operations worldwide.
      7 LEGAL & GENERAL GROUP PLC – a British multinational financial services company headquartered in London, provides various insurance products and services worldwide.
      8 VANGUARD GROUP, INC., – mutual funds
      9 UBS AG CH – Financial services for private, corporate and institutional clients
      10 MERRILL LYNCH & CO., INC. – the wealth management division of Bank of America, provides investment, financing, and other related services
      11 WELLINGTON MANAGEMENT CO. L.L.P. – investment management in global capital markets.
      12 DEUTSCHE BANK AG – banking products and services like private banking, business banking insurance, investment, wealth management
      13 FRANKLIN RESOURCES, INC. – a global investment management organization
      14 CREDIT SUISSE GROUP CH – integrated global bank
      15 WALTON ENTERPRISES LLC – operates as a financial services company. It is a a family limited liability company used to invest the funds owned by the Waltons, owners of Walmart and Sam’s Club.
      16 BANK OF NEW YORK MELLON CORP. – Providing financial services to institutions, corporations, and high net worth individuals. (Well they aren’t shy are they?)
      17 NATIXIS – the international corporate, investment management and financial services arm of Groupe BPCE, the second-largest banking player in France.
      18 GOLDMAN SACHS GROUP, INC., – global investment banking, securities and investment management firm
      19 T. ROWE PRICE GROUP, INC. – Mutual Funds
      20 LEGG MASON, INC. – global investment management firm
      21 MORGAN STANLEY – investment firm specializing in wealth management, investment banking
      22 MITSUBISHI UFJ FINANCIAL GROUP, INC. – Consumer, Corporate & Investment Banking, Asset Management
      23 NORTHERN TRUST CORPORATION – banking to corporations
      24 SOCIÉTÉ GÉNÉRALE – French bank

      • Gail Combs says:

        Try again: A Brief History Of The Mutual Fund

        Oh, and it seems Google REALLY REALLY didn’t like my research on these 25. Instead of bringing up information the last few times I got:

        Our systems have detected unusual traffic from your computer network. This page checks to see if it’s really you sending the requests, and not a robot.

        • Andy Oz says:

          NSA don’t like people looking into their paymaster’s buddies.

        • Gail Combs says:

          That is what I figured given the amount of information I pull off the net in a day it was not unusual except as to subject matter.

          I didn’t touch the Catchit just closed the window FAST!

  7. Gail Combs says:

    exmaschine says:
    “Huh. Well I’m rightfully insulted that you suggest, no wait, claim that I am not sane!…nice day duly noted”

    Actually you come across as a Progressive masquerading as an extreme right wing nut trying to give conservatives a bad name and also trying to drive a wedge between conservatives.

    There were/are two different sets of banks. The Central (National) Banks and the regional/state chartered banks. These two groups are NOT united and are NOT ‘friends’ The Central Banksters want a Monopoly pure and simple. That means killing off the competition, the irritating middle class bourgeoisie who crop up as independent bankers and challenge their control of money.

    From a Pro-Central Bank site: Social Studies Help for American History, Economics and AP Government. There are class notes, numerous Supreme Court case summaries and information on how to write a research paper inside.

    …In 1811, when the time came to renew its charter, Congress declined to do so. The advocates of states’ rights won out. Over the next five years, the number of state-chartered banks almost tripled, from 88 in 1811 to 246 in 1816… [OH MY! can’t have that.]

    ….just five years after the demise of the First Bank, was to establish the Second Bank of the United States. This time, Congress gave the national bank the right to issue its own notes. These soon became the most widely accepted currency in the nation, preferred to the less-trusted notes of the state chartered banks.

    Recognizing the weakness of these issues, the Second Bank pressed for sounder specie backing. The southern and western banks balked, viewing this pressure as discriminatory. Animosity toward the Second Bank intensified when it instructed northern banks not to accept bank notes from the southern and western banks which could not back their currency with gold and silver…

    … in 1832, the Second Bank’s existence was an election issue and Jackson promised to destroy the Bank. Unable to convince Congress to terminate the Banks charter, Jackson withdrew Treasury funds from the Second Bank and deposited it in state banks. This undermined the Second Bank’s ability to control the issuance of notes by state banks. By 1836 it had become just another bank in Pennsylvania.

    From the demise of the Second Bank as a central bank until Congress passed the National Banking Act in 1864, the economy’s money supply was once again left in the hands of the state banks….

    So how about the underhanded actions of the Central Banksters that are left out of those ‘class notes’

    “On Sept 1st, 1894, we will not renew our loans under any consideration. On Sept 1st we will demand our money. We will foreclose and become mortgagees in possession. We can take two-thirds of the farms west of the Mississippi, and thousands of them east of the Mississippi as well, at our own price… Then the farmers will become tenants as in England…” — 1891 American Bankers Association as printed in the Congressional Record of April 29, 1913

    From another source a bit more information.

    Another letter from the American Bankers Association to their member bankers, dated March 11 1893, goes like this:

    Dear Sir: The interests of the National Banks require immediate financial legislation by Congress. Silver certificates, and Treasury notes, must be retired, and national bank notes, upon a gold basis, made the only money. This will require the authorization of new bonds in the amount of $500,000,000 to $1,000,000,000 as the basis of circulation. You will at once retire one-third of your bank notes in circulation and will call one-half of your loans. Be careful to create a money stringency among your patrons, especially among influential businessmen. The life of the National banks as fixed and safe investments, depends upon immediate action as there is an increasing sentiment in favour of government legal tender and silver coinage.

    This letter is referred to as “The Panic Circular of 1893”
    Volume 1 – Banking in America

    So what was the result?

    As the country’s money supply was intentionally contracted by the National Bank advocates, jobs were lost, wages and prices plummeted but that mortgage payment due to the national banks remained constant.

    “Figures furnished by the government Bureau of Statistics show that the number of landowners is rapidly declining in all sections of the country, and that the number of tenant farmers is rapidly increasing. The land of the United States is is destined to fall into the hands of a class of large landed proprietors, who will rent it out in small parcels to the actual tillers of the soil, and the pernicious system of landlrdism which now rules in England and Europe will become firmly established here. In the decade between 1880 and 1890 according to census figures, the number of families owning their own farms decreased in every New England state and the number of tenent farmers increased correspondingly.” — William Hope Harvey, Coin’s Financial School, 1895

    Interesting that this information doesn’t make it into those class notes which is taught in schools today.

    So who was behind these Central Bank advocates that fought tooth and nail from the very start of the US to get a Central Bank instituted?
    excerpted from the book

    The Secrets of the Federal Reserve
    by Eustace Mullins
    Bankers Research Institute, 1983, paperback

    foreword by Eustace Mullins 1983
    In 1950 [I] began efforts to market this manuscript in New York. Eighteen publishers turned it down without comment, but the nineteenth, Devin Garrity, president of Devin Adair Publishing Company, gave me some friendly advice in his office. “I like your book, but we can’t print it,” he told me. “Neither can anybody else in New York”.
    … After two years of fruitless submissions, the book was published in a small edition in 1952 by two of [Ezra] Pound’s disciples, John Kasper and David Horton, using their private funds, under title ‘Mullins on the Federal Reserve’.

    My original book had traced and named the shadowy figures in the United States who planned the Federal Reserve Act. I now discovered that the men whom I exposed in 1952 as the shadowy figures behind the operation of the Federal Reserve System were themselves shadows, the American fronts for the unknown figures who became know as the ‘London Connection’. I found that notwithstanding our successes in the Wars of Independence and 1812 against England, we remained an economic and financial colony of Great Britain.

    ….So great was popular resentment against bankers since the Panic of 1907 that no Congressman would dare to vote for a bill bearing the Wall Street taint, no matter who had contributed to his campaign expenses. The Jekyll Island plan was a central bank plan, and in this country there was a long tradition of struggle against inflicting a central bank on the American people. It had begun with Thomas Jefferson’s fight against Alexander Hamilton’s scheme for the First Bank of the United States, backed by James Rothschild. It had continued with President Andrew Jackson’s successful war against Alexander Hamilton’s scheme for the Second Bank of the United States, in which Nicholas Biddle was acting as the agent for James Rothschild of Paris. The result of that struggle was the creation of the Independent Sub-Treasury System, which supposedly had served to keep the funds of the United States out of the hands of the financiers. A study of the panics of 1873, 1893, and 1907 indicates that” these panics were the result of the international bankers’ operations in London. The public was demanding in 1908 that Congress enact legislation to prevent the recurrence of artificially induced money panics. Such monetary reform now seemed inevitable. It was to head off and control such reform that the National Monetary Commission had been set up with Nelson Aldrich at its head, since he was majority leader of the Senate….

    The primary deception which would prevent the citizens from recognizing that his plan set up a central bank was the regional reserve system … of four (later twelve) branch reserve banks located in different sections of the country… the existing concentration of the nation’s money and credit structure in New York made the proposal of a regional reserve system a delusion.
    The administrators of the proposed central banks should be subject to executive approval by the President. This patent removal of the system from Congressional control meant that the Federal Reserve proposal was unconstitutional from its inception because the Federal Reserve System was to be a bank of issue. Article 1, Sec. 8 Par. 5 of the Constitution expressly charges Congress with “the power to coin money and regulate the value thereof”. Warburg’s plan would deprive Congress of its sovereignty, and the systems of checks and balances of power set up by Thomas Jefferson in the Constitution would now be destroyed. Administrators of the proposed system would control the nation’s money and credit, and would themselves be approved by the executive department of the government….

    In practice, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York became the fountainhead of the system of twelve regional banks, for New York was the money market of the nation….

    The shareholders of [the] banks which own the stock of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York are the people who have controlled, our political and economic destinies since 1914. They are the Rothschild’s, of Europe, Lazard Freres (Eugene Meyer), Israel Sieff, Kuhn Loeb Company, Warburg Company, Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs, the Rockefeller family, and the J.P. Morgan interests. These interests have merged and consolidated in recent years so that the control is much more concentrated. — [This is the group I refer to as The Banksters BTW-gc]

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