Lest We Forget – Not All Muslims Are Terrorists

Their culture contributes much to Europe, and deserves mention.



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142 Responses to Lest We Forget – Not All Muslims Are Terrorists

  1. PeterK says:

    It may be true that not all Muslims are terrorists but where I live, it would appears that most Muslims do not speak up and condem atrocities such as this latest one. My opinion is that unless those Muslims who are not terrorists do condem such atrocities and actively do something about it, then I will be suspect and leary toward these complacent Muslims.

    If these people are really serious about living amoung us in peace, then they need to do much more as a group to help eliminate these radicals from our midst.

    • AndrewS says:

      @PeterK “If these people are really serious about living amoung us in peace, then they need to do much more as a group to help eliminate these radicals from our midst.”
      The West has been waiting for that since 9-11-01. Over 14 years, with no signs of co-operation in this regard.

    • omanuel says:

      Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most of the world leaders are insane.

      We live in the dangerous world that George Orwell told us we would awaken to in Nineteen Eighty-Four

      Most of us didn’t start awakening until Climategate emails startled us in late Nov 2009 . . . sixty-three years after the internal composition of the Sun was arbritarily changed from:

      _ a.) Mostly iron (Fe) in 1945 to
      _ b.) Mostly hydrogen (H) in 1946

      Sir Fred Hoyle “spilled the beans” on this unsavory turn in “science” on pages 153-154 of his 1994 auto-biography, Home Is Where The Wind Blows

      • omanuel says:

        The greatest threat to humanity today is the insanity of those who try to retain power by inciting hatred of AGW believers for AGW doubters, of Muslims for Jews, for Christians, for Hindus, etc., etc.

        The inhabitants of planet Earth will hang together or die separately.


        • Oliver, I wonder how well you read the things you post …

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          Avaaz is only five years old, but has exploded to become the globe’s largest and most powerful online activist network.
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        • omanuel says:

          Yes, I recognize Avaaz as promoters of consensus propaganda and do not agree with Avaaz on many things.

          But I agree that the inhabitants of planet Earth must find a way to avoid being manipulated by insane and power-hungry world leaders who incite hatred of AGW believers for AGW doubters, of Muslims for Jews, for Christians, for Hindus, for Buddhists, etc., etc.

          The inhabitants of planet Earth will either hang together or we will die separately.

  2. dmmcmah says:

    Washington Post now says at least one of the Paris attackers came to France through Greece. For all the Al Gore supporters out there, that means they were a “refugee”.


  3. Martin Smith says:

    But you claimed Muslim immigrants have ethnically cleansed Jews in Paris and have destroyed the French culture. Where is your evidence for that?

    [SG : I have no intention of rewriting blog posts for the private audience of one particular whiner]

  4. Grannie Appleseed says:

    It may not be “Muslims” that are entirely to blame, or Islam. We have to be careful we aren’t like lemmings running off the cliff together being terrorized by global elitists who manipulate our perception of people and the world. Like climate alarmists trying to frighten us for possible other agendas, what if ISIS is such a plan for other certain agendas? Check out this opinion if you wish: http://www.globalresearch.ca/twenty-six-things-about-the-islamic-state-isil-that-obama-does-not-want-you-to-know-about/5414735?utm_source=hootsuite

  5. TomE says:

    Mark Steyn has been warning of what is happening in Europe and around the world for years. Merkel has just advanced the fall of Europe with her insane welcome of illegal immigrants. Paris, Madrid, London, New York were all major Islam attacks on the west. There are continuous small attacks, Toulouse, Copenhagan, Brussels, Fort Hood, Sydney, Paris again, and it is not going to stop because our leaders can not overcome their PC hangups and recognize that Islam is a 12th century religion which hates Western culture. Obama is the worst president, the most lackluster leader we have ever had. His comments about ISIS being contained are just a sample of how clueless he is.

    • dmmcmah says:

      Merkel is a bumbling fool who has assured Germany will disappear from the face of the earth. Native German women have a birthrate of 1.3, you do the math. ISIS doesn’t have to attack Germany to bring them into the Caliphate, all they have to do is wait.

      • Dean Yale says:

        Merkel is no fool. She is doing the same job as Obama, Cameron, and other Globalist leaders The goal is to ruin Western civilization so the Globalists can offer a solution with them in control. The EU is a step to collectivize, destroy, and put them under United Nations rule called the Euro Zone. Dear Angela is just following orders.

      • V. Uil says:

        For thousands of years the Germans or the Germanic tribes have tried to destroy Europe and bring it under their control. From Roman times this has been going on.

        Looks like this time Germany has hit on a novel and effective idea. Simply replace the Europeans (birth rate per adult woman1.4) with Muslims (birth rate per adult woman 4.2) and within one or two generations the destruction will be complete without firing a shot.

        Only issue the Germans have not taken into account is they too will be gone. Replaced by Middle Eastern madmen.

    • kmbold says:

      Islam is not a 12h century religion, it began in the 8th century. It is a heresy, taking and perverting parts of Christianity and Judaism and adding some of Mohammed’s own personal weirdness. Lying is permitted if it can promote Islam. Killing (murdering) the “infidel” will get you to heaven, where men will be rewarded with virgins; or some say this reward is translated as “white raisins”. Saudi Arabia is behind most of the terror and the US and Europe refuse to do anything about that. All quite absurd.

  6. eliza says:

    Time to boot MS he is a looneytooney

    • darwin says:

      He’s a leftist. All leftists love Islam and hate Jews.

      • Martin Smith says:

        I love everyone, darwin. Even you.

        • darwin says:

          From my experience leftists are excellent liars … to themselves and others.

        • rah says:

          Yea, you love us so much you want us all to have to live like the Israelis. That is with the constant threat of barbarism when we go out and fear and distrust of our neighbors.

        • Martin Smith stepped into the light, realized he was like Jesus. His heart was swelling with love for everyone. Even Darwin. He wondered how much he loved that Tony guy people kept talking about, whoever he was. He wondered what Jesus would do. Would he love the Tony guy even if he didn’t know him? Suddenly he knew what to do. Show them the real Jesus. Even to those who weren’t like Jesus at all. That will make it neat, self-contained. That will show them.


          Liberals don’t “hate any mention of Christ in the public square,” because Jesus was a liberal. Jesus was a leftist. If liberals hate anything about Jesus, it’s the people who claim to be Christian who clearly aren’t like Jesus at all.

          Book of Revelations, paperback, 1915 Edition

        • catweazle666 says:

          That’s why your your posts are implicitly abusive, you patronising, passive-aggressive little creep.

      • dmmcmah says:

        Of course Islam is a major problem for leftists. On the one hand, they cry about “Islamophobia”. But Muslims hate homosexuals and even kill them in some places, and so you have “homophobia” v. “Islamophobia”. A great illustration of the self-destruct mechanism hidden in group pandering politics.

  7. omnologos says:

    everyone has their pet scare that they just NEED to pump up beyond all proportions

  8. elcrustace says:

    Iceberg structure. Terrorists are like the top of the iceberg, then you have criminals, then fraudsters, then those who support all of the others. You just have to look at the height of the top to realize the probleme. In fact criminals and fraudsters are so numerous that they appear above water, as if the water was very dense…

    We are told that the bad guy are a minority of muslims, but first of all it’s not obvious, and then if a population have 10 to 20 times more criminality than the other, it’s quite problematic.

    Moreover, these guys are not only violent and stupids, they are destroying our civilization by imposing their stupids laws.

    As a french i’m worried to see muslims take over my country. We have nuclear weapons, a relatively strong army… Which is already infiltrated and governed by Saudis interests.

  9. Chris says:

    Hilary’s Arab Spring has sprung!

  10. Latitude says:

    Immigration has always been hard on countries…
    …who doesn’t remember the great Irish Jihad?…the Italian fatwa

  11. Jason Calley says:

    Islam is not a religion. Islam is a religion plus a government. Western concepts of natural and personal rights is based on a differentiation between religious and secular structures.

    You can have freedom and individual rights, or you can have Islam. Take your pick.

    • omnologos says:

      People said the same of Christianity for many centuries

      • Latitude says:

        mostly muslims…

      • Ted says:

        It was true about Christianity for many centuries. That time is now long past. Jason’s point is that Islam has yet to move from theocracy to independent religion, as Christianity has.

        • omnologos says:

          erm…Christianity established the separation of Church and State after several centuries and countless wars, not to mention the dead and the atrocities.

        • gator69 says:

          The difference can be starkly illustrated by the founders. One taught us to love one another and never laid a hand on anyone. The other was a warlord who personally decapitated prisoners of war, while preaching submit or die.

          No comparison.

        • Ted says:

          Correct. And Islam has yet to do it themselves. They’re still in the “countless wars” stage.

        • Latitude says:

          Does anyone else see the Irony of Muslims calling for a separation of church and state?

          ..oh wait!

        • Latitude says:

          Christianity established the separation of Church and State after several centuries ….

          Guess that means Islam is still a very backward religion

        • gator69 says:

          Actually that separation was established by the founder…

          “Jesus said to them, render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”
          -Mark 12:17

        • Latitude says:

          Which is the complete and total opposite of what the Koran says..
          Koran is the government, state is inseparable from religion…..Muslims can not be ruled by non-muslims….Muslims must obtain political supremacy….everyone must submit to Muslim rule

          The caliphate is the wrap up of muslims taking over the world….before the end

        • gator69 says:


      • omnologos says:

        Funny how we revert to the same point. The founder of Christianity as we know it is Constantine, and he saw no separation between Church and State.

        • gator69 says:

          Wow. Sorry my friend, but the founder of Christianity is Christ. It’s not called “Constianity”.

          (Shaking head…)

        • Latitude says:

          you’re digging your hole here….

          You are saying that Christianity evolved and became a modern religion…
          ….and Islam didn’t and is still some backwoods throwback religion

        • omnologos says:

          I’m saying there’s nothing special about Islam

        • gator69 says:

          Actually there is. Can you name another of the “great religions” that was founded by a murderous pedophile warlord who taught total submission or death?

        • omnologos says:

          Ah right, the paedophile slur. It’d been missing.

        • gator69 says:

          If you call historical fact a slur, then yes.

        • catweazle666 says:

          omnologos: “Ah right, the paedophile slur. It’d been missing.”

          Mohammed consummated his marriage to his child bride Aisha when she was nine, this is a matter of historical record.

          Further, there is no stricture in Islam concerning sexual intercourse with children of any age, including infants, although there are certain rules concerning the actual methodology. No less an authority than the Ayatollah Khomeini wrote quite prolifically on the subject.

          I suggest you educate yourself before you accuse posters of promulgating slurs.

          Oh, and tell me, when was the last time a gang of Christian terrorists placed a bomb on an airliner, or donned a suicide belt and blew themselves up on a school bus, or machine gunned a night club? Or a gang of Buddhists, or Scientologists even?

          I seem to have missed those reports.

        • omnologos says:

          I stand enlightened by the plethora of Koranic scholars around my Internet life. Not to mention their expertise in International Relations and terrorism

        • omnologos says:

          Jesus wrote nothing. We’ve got Paul and the Evangelists, very little by the first Pope. It’s not by accident the religion went from one Council to another. And it became State religion before the Middle Ages started.

        • gator69 says:

          It’s called “Christianity”, and it is based solely upon the life and teachings of Christ. It really is sad to see an intelligent person make such a mockery of themselves, especially in defense of a death cult founded by a murderous warlord.

          (Shaking head in utter disbelief and sadness)

        • omnologos says:

          I could say the same of you. You’re denying the existence of St Paul, not to mention countless Fathers of the Church, Councils, the Eastern Schism, the Reformation etc etc. Christianity is definitely not solely based upon the life and teachings of Christ.

        • gator69 says:

          What did the apostles teach? Do you even know/? They taught of Jesus and His message, because He is the founder.

          Omnologos, we have known each other through this site for years now, and you are normally a thoughtful and logical person. What is it about Islam that makes you act like a fool?

        • omnologos says:

          Yeah right. ..what is it about Islam that makes YOU act like a fool? Ps Christians were killing people already in 415AD

        • gator69 says:

          Christians kill in defense of innocent lives, just like anyone else who is moral.

          When a “Christian” murders, it goes against the teachings of Christ and that person is a sinner in the eyes of God.

          When a Muslim murders in the name of Allah, it is in keeping with the teachings and customs of Mohammad, and is rewarded by Allah.

          You have a real problem omnologos.

        • omnologos says:

          No no Christians have been killing for political reasons since the time they got political power. Muhammad got it immediately. And anyone can read anything in the Bible or Quran really

        • gator69 says:

          You are not this dense!

          I am not defending the actions of men. We are discussing Christianity vs Islam.

          Islam teaches intolerance.

          Chritianity teaches that we love one another.

          No more strawmen omnologos. No more wilful ignorance on your part. Enough.

        • AndyG55 says:

          I might add that omno also frequents Peter Sinclair’s site, like Martin does

          Birds of a feather. Parrots, Norwegian blue.

        • David A says:

          Omno, you are admitting that Christianity evolved in form from Tyranny to elective choice, but Islam is stuck in the dark ages. How can you not see this?

          And yes, Christianity was originally apolitical, and all about a personal relationship with God. When Rome became “Christian” it was the worst thing for the church. Islam, on the other hand, was always about political power, initially perhaps an attempt to unite the warring tribes, a failed attempt.

        • Latitude says:

          omnologos says:
          November 15, 2015 at 8:31 am
          I’m saying there’s nothing special about Islam
          Then you would be 100% wrong….

          Islam is not compatible with our religions, our society, and the way we live.
          The Koran spells it out, in detail.

          The Koran is also specific about there is no wiggle room…
          …and what to do with people that claim to be Muslim and don’t follow the Koran exactly.

          According to the Koran…there is no such thing as a “moderate” Muslim.

          Calling Muslims “radical” “terrorists” etc is just a ruse….Truth is…..Those are the true followers of the Koran. And there is no way any of them will go to their “heaven” unless they are true followers.

        • omnologos says:

          Strangely this Truth only dawned upon the world around 1971. Wow.

        • I for one appreciate when a real theologian and Islamic scholar takes on the radical Christianist Islamophobes here. They need to listen to Fahad Qureshi, the Chairman of Islam Net, at the Islam Peace Conference in Oslo 2013 (ca. 4,000 attendees):

          “These are general views that every Muslim actually has. Every Muslim believes in these things. Just because they are not telling you about it, or just because they are not out there in the media, doesn’t mean that they don’t believe in them.”
          “So I will ask you, everyone in the room: How many of you are normal Muslims – you’re not extremists, you’re not radical – just normal Sunni Muslims? Please raise your hands.”
          “Everybody, Mā shāʼ Allāh! Subhān Allāh. OK, take down your hands again.”

          “Next question. How many of you agree that the punishments described in the Qur’an and the Sunnah – whether it is death, whether it is stoning for adultery, whatever it is, if it is from Allah and his Messenger, that is the best punishment ever possible for humankind, and that is what we should apply in the world. Who agrees with that?”
          “Allāhu Akbar! Are you all radical extremists? Subhān Allāh. So, all of you are saying that you are common Muslims, you all go to the different mosques in Norway. Or are you like a specific sect, like the Islam Net sect, or anything like that? Are you like that? No. Is it … Are you like that? Please raise your hand if you are like that extreme Islam, that sect, or anything like that? No one, Allāhu Akbar.
          “How many of you just go to these normal mosques in Norway, the normal Sunni mosques? Please raise your hands. “
          Allāhu Akbar! So, what’s the politicians going to say now? What’s the media going to say now? That we are all extremists? We are all radicals? We all need to be deported from this country?”

          “Subhān Allāh. Allāhu Akbar!”

          “Allāhu Akbar!”
          “Allāhu Akbar!”
          “Allāhu Akbar!”

          “May we have the next question, please.”

        • omnologos says:

          And why not. Hearsay and anecdotes are what we need

        • Latitude says:

          omnologos says:
          November 15, 2015 at 5:26 pm
          Yeah right. ..what is it about Islam that makes YOU act like a fool?
          because according to the Koran…..either you follow the Koran exactly….or apostasy

          Which means there’s no such thing as a moderate Muslim, a Muslim terrorist, a radical Muslim…..

        • omnologos says:

          No. Nobody reads the Koran directly. It’d be analogue to apostasy, because in Islam the Revelation doesn’t happen in the individual believer. Every mainstream Muslim follows one of three or four schools of thought.

        • Latitude says:

          so they are not really Muslims then….the Koran says you can’t have more than one leader, have to follow the Koran exactly…and elect a caliph

        • omnologos says:

          Exactly. The book says one thing in an old language, the practice is something else.

    • PeterK says:

      Actually, I’ve always said Islam is a political movement, they only claim it is a religion. If it really was a religion, violence would not be part of it. We have been fooled for hundreds of years and yet we have never learned anything. Fight fire with more fire and eliminate once and for all this cancer. I just hope we wake up before it is too late.

      • Latitude says:

        Of course it’s political….the Koran says it’s political
        The Koran is the law, the government…..

      • Gail Combs says:

        Normally you have the thug on Horseback and the Shaman (priest class) backing up his rule. Mohammad just decided to get rid of the possible competition and combined the two.

        Even in the USA 60% of Muslims reject the concept of Freedom of Speech. 12% believed in the application of the Sharia-based punishment “blasphemy” and feel that Americans who criticize or parody Islam should be put to death. Nearly one-third (32%) of American Muslims polled believed “…Shariah law should be the supreme law of the land in the US.”

        It’s Not the ”Radical Shaykh” it’s Islam – Fahad Qureshi
        (Speech by Fahad Qureshi, transcript)

        Published on May 19, 2013

        When Muslim organizations invite Shaykhs who speak openly about the values of Islam, the Islamophobic western media starts murdering the character of that organization and the invited speaker. The question these Islamophobic journalists need to reflect upon is; are these so called ”radical” views that they criticize endorsed only by these few individuals being invited around the globe, or does the common Muslims believe in them. If the common Muslims believe in these values that means that more or less all Muslims are radical and that Islam is a radical religion. Since this is not the case, as Islam is a peaceful religion and so are the masses of common Muslims, these Shaykhs cannot be radical. Rather it is Islamophobia from the ignorant western media who is more concerned about making money by alienating Islam by presenting Muslims in this way. Islam Net, an organization in Norway, invited 9 speakers to Peace Conference Scandinavia 2013. These speakers would most likely be labelled as ”extremists” if the media were to write about the conference. But how come this conference was the largest Islamic Scandinavian International event that has taken place in Norway with about 4000 people attending? Were the majority of those who attended in opposition to what the speakers were preaching? If so, how come they paid to enter? Let’s forget about that for a moment, let’s imagine that we don’t really knew what all these people thought about for example segregation of men and women, or stoning to death of those who commit adultery. The Chairman of Islam Net, Fahad Ullah Qureshi asked the audience, and the answer was clear. The attendees were common Sunni Muslims. They did not consider themselves as radicals or extremists. They believed that segregation was the right thing to do, both men and women agreed upon this. They even supported stoning or whatever punishment Islam or prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) commanded for adultery or any other crime. They even believed that these practises should be implemented around the world. Now what does that tell us? Either all Muslims and Islam is radical, or the media is Islamophobic and racist in their presentation of Islam. Islam is not radical, nor is Muslims in general radical. That means that the media is the reason for the hatred against Muslims, which is spreading among the non-Muslims in western countries.

        He sure makes it pretty clear that their culture IS NOTt compatible with the culture here in the West AND the muslims are not about to change that culture. Instead the muslims expect us to adhere to THEIR SHARIA LAW since they consider it the received the Word of God and are therefore in the right.

      • Dmh says:

        “… Fight fire with more fire and eliminate once and for all this cancer…”
        How can we fight a “cancer” that has so much oil in their lands?
        It would cause so many more problems to fight those rich bastards…
        Oh no, let’s calm down and let the terrorist attacks continue, and the beheading, the whipping, child abuse, acid attacks, etc…
        If only those bastards were not so rich!….

  12. desotojohn says:

    What does any of this have to do with climate change?

  13. spangled drongo says:

    The reaction from most of the western world’s leaders still seems to be essentially, we need to smile more as we hold the gate open.

  14. norilsk says:

    Prepare yourself for the truth!

  15. Not all Muslims are terrorist, but nearly all terrorists are Muslim.

  16. john says:

    Godzilla is great.

  17. rah says:

    I have always regretted the Ronald Regan didn’t follow through in Lebanon. I fully understood why at the time, but still thought it was a mistake. Perhaps if we had taken on the Radical Islamic beast more directly back then things would be different now.

    • gator69 says:

      Rah, there are so many times in history like what Reagan faced in Lebanon. Hell, just go back a few years to our Iranian Embassy, better yet, read to what Rocky Sickman has to say about it…

      “I had my finger on a sawed off shotgun and they had broken through the basement of the embassy and they brought Iranian women in black shadoors and used them as shields. And I tell you what, I regret – thinking back thirty-three years ago – not ever pulling that trigger because my orders were don’t fire.”
      – Rocky Sickmann, former Marine guard at the US embassy in Tehran in 1979.


  18. Chris Barron says:

    Extremists are the main threat to a lasting peace, be they religious, political or cultural extremists….you know who they are, they’re always saying ‘we’ll only put ours down if you do first’…….or ‘I am only protecting myself -just in case’ .
    Fearmongering weak spined extremists deserve the paranoia they must surely be living with…..and deserve all the ridicule which they attract 🙂

    Lest we forget….
    “Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America nor, for that matter, in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. … [V]oice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

    ― Hermann Göring

    • Gail Combs says:

      Mahatma Gandhi on Muslims: “the Mussalman as a rule is a bully”

      The famous quotation of Mahatma Gandhi on Hindu cowards and Muslim bullies deserves to be read in full:

      “There is no doubt in my mind that in the majority of quarrels the Hindus come out second best. But my own experience confirms the opinion that the Mussalman as a rule is a bully, and the Hindu as a rule is a coward. I have noticed this in railway trains, on public roads, and in the quar�rels which I had the privilege of settling. Need the Hindu blame the Mussalman for his cowardice? Where there are cowards, there will always be bullies. They say that in Saharan�pur the Mussal�mans looted houses, broke open safes and, in one case, a Hindu woman’s modesty was outraged. Whose fault was this? Mussalmans can offer no defence for the execrable conduct, it is true. But I, as a Hindu, am more ashamed of Hindu cowardice than I am angry at the Mussalman bullying. Why did not the owners of the houses looted die in the attempt to defend their possessions? Where were the relatives of the outraged sister at the time of the outrage? Have they no account to render of themselves? My non-violence does not admit of running away from danger and leaving dear ones unprotected. Between violence and cowardly flight, I can only prefer violence to cowardice.”[1]

      Gandhi declares that the owners of the looted houses ought to have chosen to “die in the attempt to defend their possessions”. But why should the lawful owner die, in punishment of what crime? ….

      here he says: “I prefer violence to cowardice.” Gandhi is ashamed that Hindus failed to put up an effective self-defence, and wants them to do better next time.

      Here, for once, Gandhi seems to link up with a whole tradition of mature think�ers who have taken a propor�tionalist view of the acceptability of violence: in cases where force can reasonably be expected to make the difference (not when the situation is hopeless, as poin�ted out by Thomas Aquinas in his theory of “just war”), it is lawful to use force to ward off aggression…

      • David A says:

        Yes, “ahimsa” non violence is a deep subject, and not what the progressive crowd thinks
        Ahimsa means removal of the desire to kill, but in this world one may be compelled to act.
        One ought to strive to remove the hate, but still act and fulfill duty. (it is deeper then that, but I will not take the time here.)

        Obama on the other hand appears to enjoy his drone hunting, and Hillary cackeled when she bragged about killing Gadhafi, with zero plan for follow up, just letting thousands die and Islamists take over.

        • Gail Combs says:

          It is the difference between ‘Good’ and ‘Evil’

          ‘Evil’ LIKES to cause pain and suffering. Therefore the sadists are going to be attracted to a ‘religion’ or a political point of view that sanctions their desires to cause pain and suffering. An Excuse, to quiet what ever vestiges of civilization they absorbed. Both Islam and Marxism are such justifications.

          “The Collective Farm Policy was a terrible struggle, Ten million died. It was fearful.” — Joseph Stalin

          ‘Good’ will use violence to defend or if necessary remove a threat but nothing more.

          In Islam (and Marxism) removal of non-aggressors even children though death is seen as ‘good’

          This reversal of what is seen as ‘Good’ and ‘Evil’ is why both Islam and Marxism can not co-exist in a society that honors personal freedom and property rights. It is also why totalitarians LOVE both.

    • Gail Combs says:

      Islam is ABOUT conquest period.

      There is no peace except when an entire are has been converted. If the muslims are to few they LIE. Their prophet TELLS them do do so. Once their numbers increase they switch to aggression. They might allow non-muslims to exist but only if they crawl on their bellies and lick the feet of the muslims.

      We can see that those in the UK of the leftest PC persuasion have decided that they should start crawling on their bellies and licking the feet of the muslims.

      It is DOCUMENTED:
      Multicultural Surrender has Turned Britain into a Third World Country

      2014/07/23 The Islamist ‘Trojan Horse’ Plot: Why Lessons Won’t Be Learned

      2014/08/27 This is just ONE town in the UK where this IS going on:Rotherham: 1400 Children Groomed, Drugged and Raped by Multiculturalism

      AHHHhhhh, the problems PC journalists propagandists have reporting on this (IF they bother to.)
      Modern Britain’s apathetic, inadequate response to child sexual abuse

      The customs developing around how modern British officialdom reacts to the gang-rape of children is very interesting….

      I’m not quite sure what we’re currently allowed to say by way of identifying these men. We might once have said that they were ‘diverse’ or ‘vibrant’. Except that nearly all the men seem to come from one religious, and specific ethno-religious, background. For some time ‘Asian’ appears to have been the term of choice, but whenever I use it I receive a slew of angry emails from Hindus and Sikhs of Asian descent. I also get cross emails from Chinese persons and the people of Japan who criticise me for using the term ‘Asian’ to describe the men. I don’t know what the solution is. Perhaps we could avoid all trouble by just calling the guilty men ‘non-diverse’?…..

      ….Ms Simons is better off than Mr Wright, though she still has to squeeze by on a tax-payer funded salary of around £182,400, plus bonuses. She had to make her apology after it transpired that she had overseen, among other things, a care-home system which allowed young girls to be drugged, raped and gang-raped by an equally ‘non-diverse’ [muslim] group of men in the Oxfordshire area. This was known as the ‘Operation Bullfinch’ case and led to the prosecution of a distinctly non-diverse group of men from the Oxfordshire area last year….

      2014/09/07 http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/09/07/islamic-rape-gangs-rotherham-is-just-the-tip-of-the-iceberg/“>Islamic Rape Gangs: Rotherham is Just the Tip of the Iceberg

      2014/08/29 Muslim Rape Gangs: the Disturbing Role of Britain’s Leading Child Welfare Charity

      … Javed Khan… is the head of Britain’s largest children’s charity Barnardo’s which now stands accused of having known about the Muslim rape gang problem for well over a decade – but which chose to do next to nothing to confront it.

      …Not only did Khan refuse to call for the resignation of South Yorkshire Police Commissioner (and former head of Rotherham Council Children’s Services) Shaun Wright but it often seemed as though he was trying to make excuses for the various institutions which allowed mass child rape to occur on their watch….

      2014/09/01 Multiculturalism: What the Left Would Prefer You Didn’t Know…

      2014/11/01 Labour’s PCC Victory In the Rape-Gang Regions of the North Is Proof that Turkeys Do Vote for Christmas

      2015/02/19 Britain Is Getting More Dangerous. So Give Us Our Guns Back

      2015/05/14 Surge in UK Terror Arrests as Scotland Yard Warns of ‘Massive Threat’ to Britain

    • gator69 says:

      Actually it is Muslim fundamentalists that are the main threat. Radical Muslims are those that do not follow the teachings and examples of Mohammad.

      • Latitude says:

        gat, according to the Koran…there’s no such thing as a radical Muslim.
        Someone that doesn’t follow the teachings of the Koran to the exact letter…is not a Muslim at all……..apostasy

        • gator69 says:

          True. But I was illustrating the fact that violent Muslims are not radicals, they are fundamentalists, strictly adhering to the literal example set by the founder of their “religion”.

        • Latitude says:

          exactly…I was just saying the Koran gives no wiggle room……Muslims that do not follow it exactly are not Muslims at all….Claiming to be moderate Muslims, according to the Koran are not Muslims at all…..radial, terrorist is a ruse describing true Muslims that follow the word of the Koran.

        • gator69 says:

          On a related note. Have I ever mentioned I am a giant midget? 😉

        • Latitude says:


        • A giant midget. Rough. Do you work with Noah?

        • gator69 says:

          I used to do some charity events with Noah, until I discovered he was a fraud. I walked in on him in a public bathroom backstage, and caught him using a standard height urinal. Besides, at 5’6″ he is not really all that tall for a 21st century midget. It’s the lifestyle that #matters.

        • That’s sickening. I know people who swear they saw Noah pissing on a wall between a midget and standard urinal and crying in humiliation. So he was faking it! You can’t trust anybody these days. Fake midgets. Fake Africans. Fake reporters. It’s all fraud.

  19. Latitude says:

    What a total crock of S***……why didn’t they bomb this crap sooner

    French fighter jets have dropped 20 bombs on the Islamic State (IS) stronghold of Raqqa in northern Syria.

    The planes hit a jihadi recruitment centre, training camp and arms depot run by the group, according to the French defence ministry.


  20. ricks2014 says:

    That picture of everyone in “black” [looks] Satanic ! It looks like Demons walking with their children !! Always “hiding” their faces !!! In the mean time, Muslim preferred way of execution is “be-heading”, funny that the Beast, upon arrival (And “it’s” coming soon!) will execute “all” not faithful to It by means of “Be-Heading” ? Strange now isn’t it ???

    As Ronnie James would say (If he were still alive), “It’s the sign of the Southern Cross”…

    • Chris Barron says:

      I thought about the beheading aspect lastnight….there could be some irony in the fact that during the Reign of Terror (1793-1794) some estimates place the number of those beheaded in France at over 40,000……and a great many countries have histories of beheading as a systematic ‘solution’, to various problems.

      The islamists are really only a couple of hundred years behind the rest of us….by the time they catch up with the rest of us and read this they will be wishing we hadn’t used up all the oil 😉

      • Chris Barron says:

        Thinking about it some more, once they get over their beheading stage they’re likely to discover the delights of torture…….and go on to build the worlds largest Guantanamo.

        I’m investing in steel bar stock as we speak, sooner or later they’ll need to buy….

    • Chris Barron says:

      Regarding the dress sense…where to draw the line ?

      I’m only being a little tongue in cheek here….recently, I was involved in a discussion regarding the wearing of the Burkha in court…the. general census of opinion was that ‘you need to be able to see the face of the person in the dock’

      When i asked ‘ So do you support a ban on all blind or partially sighted people from serving on juries ?’ the discussion ground to a halt…..

      I really don’t know what the answer actually is but i do feel that whats good for the goose is good for the gander

      • Gail Combs says:

        ‘you need to be able to see the face of the person in the dock’

        The reason for that is because it is easier to ‘read’ a person. Body language and facial expressions are very very much a part of what a person is saying. Being able to read that language is what makes a good poker player. It is also why I never used a phone or e-mail at work if I could help it.

        I was very uncomfortable talking to someone if I can not read their body language too. I still prefer in person in business dealings.


        The other question is should a man be able to walk into a small store at night wearing a ski-mask?

        The burka is EXACTLY THE SAME! How do you know that ‘it’ is a woman? Heck how do you know there isn’t a sawed of shotgun under there too?

        Why has a burka suddenly become an item of dress to be worn in public AFTER 9-11?

        When I went looking for that illustration I found it came with this headline: Gunman disguised in burka and sunglasses robs cash courier

        Belgium became the first European country to impose a full ban on wearing a burka. Gotta protect those EU bureaucrats now don’t we?

        • Chris Barron says:

          When I ride my motorcycle I am asked to remove the helmet to pay for fuel at the cashiers desk….I refuse, put the cash on the desk and wait for them to serve me.

          By your reckoning blind or poorly sighted people should not be allowed to serve on juries.

          Using the telephone must make life hell for the deeply mistrusting who feel the need to see facial expressions

          “The burka is EXACTLY THE SAME! How do you know that ‘it’ is a woman? Heck how do you know there isn’t a sawed of shotgun under there too?”

          I don’t need to know if it is a man or a woman. We see plenty of Muslims fully covered up in Edinburgh in the holiday season….Why should I need to know if it is a man or a woman….I also see men kissing men,, women kissing women……is gender the real issue ?

        • Gail Combs says:

          “Using the telephone must make life hell for the deeply mistrusting who feel the need to see facial expressions….”

          It is a matter of gathering ALL information and that can not be done over a phone or via e-mail.. As far as poor sighted or blind, some of those people are much more keyed into verbal signals than the sighted are.

          Someone dependent on visual clues plus lack of visual clues = at a disadvantage.

          “When I ride my motorcycle I am asked to remove the helmet to pay for fuel at the cashiers desk….I refuse…”

          And one of these days someone is going to call the cops on you because of that refusal.

          I certainly would even if you put money on the counter. But then I have had a gun pulled on me twice. Found the guy living down the street was a mass murderer who targeted women. Not to mention the woman knifed to death beneath our window. This was all in GUN FREE areas BTW.

          Definition of a Conservative:
          “A Liberal who has been mugged.”

          Definition of Brain Dead:
          “A Liberal who has been mugged., beaten or raped and STILL thinks it is Their Fault because they were born white.”

        • Chris Barron says:

          So here you are speaking quite lucidly with me, without seeing my face or hearing my voice, trying to argue how essential it is for you to see someone’s body language….doh

          “And one of these days someone is going to call the cops on you because of that refusal.”

          The police can do nothing…a contract for a sale does not imply a certain dress code should be adhered to. Making a fair attempt to pay is the only requirement to secure the contract on my side…….are you so afraid of authority that you forget that it is there to protect everybody’s rights ?

        • catweazle666 says:

          Chris Barron: “The police can do nothing…a contract for a sale does not imply a certain dress code should be adhered to.”

          Oh, that’s where you are wrong, the police can do a very great deal, sunshinel.

          Tell you what, just try to pay for fuel at a filling station wearing a full-face motorcycle helmet and refusing to take it off, or even better, try cashing a cheque at a bank.

          Your collar will be felt and you’ll be sitting in a cell so quick your feet won’t even touch the ground.

        • “In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.”

        • Gail Combs says:

          “So here you are speaking quite lucidly with me, without seeing my face or hearing my voice, trying to argue how essential it is for you to see someone’s body language….doh”

          No, you are twisting my words.

          Body language adds additional signals that can be read to determine what the person means by his words AND if he is trying to con you. For a jury this is VERY VERY important.

          Lying Is Exposed By Micro-Expressions We Can’t Control
          Research into tiny muscle movements proves useful in anti-terror investigations

          …By applying computer technology to the emotion-driven nature of nonverbal communication, Frank, a professor of communication in the School of Informatics at the University at Buffalo, has devised methods to recognize and accurately read the conscious and unconscious behavioral cues that suggest deceit.

          His research already is employed by investigative bodies around the world and, Frank says, “It can be applied to the training of security checkpoint personnel to help them identify and decode ‘hot spots,’ the subtle conversational cues and fleeting flashes of expression that betray buried emotions or suggest lines of additional inquiry.”

          Frank notes that a large body of prior research has elaborated and sharpened Darwin’s observations about the evolutionarily-derived nature of emotion and its expression.

          In fact, Frank’s mentor during his post-doctoral years at the University of California, San Francisco, was Paul Ekman, the world’s foremost expert in reading facial expressions. Ekman conducted extensive cross-cultural research and found that a wide range of facial expressions related to specific emotions are identical from culture to culture….

          Since I have been working with and training horses since a very early age, I am very good at ‘reading’ a horse. Dogs are a snap compared to horses BTW. Therefore I automatically look for the nonverbal clues when talking to people.

        • Chris Barron says:

          Catweazle posits…
          “Oh, that’s where you are wrong, the police can do a very great deal, sunshinel.”

          No, they cannot. But I live in the UK where the police cannot do anything if you walk into a filling station with a helmet on and a willingness to pay….where do you live ?

        • Chris Barron says:

          Once again Gail I need to ask you, would you support the banning of blind and restricted vision jurors ? If they cannot see the ‘subtle fleeting expressions’ then they are not suitable (by the thrust of your argument) because assessment without visual clues is unreliable.

          Assuming of course, that the evidence they are giving (perhaps of being raped) is not supported by evidence collected by the authorities or given by other witnesses.

          What if, for example, they wear a burkha, give evidence that they were raped, and the police say they have substantial DNA evidence to support their claim…..what you are suggesting is that, on the broad scale, the fact that she is wearing a burkha and nobody can see her face (assuming no blind jurors) then her defence is still a weak one.

          It makes me now wonder, in Gail world, should evidence given by someone who has used botox to prevent facial movement be treated as suspicious, just because they’re trying to hide natural non verbal clues ?

        • catweazle666 says:

          Chris Barron: “where do you live ?”

          I live in the UK, and I can assure you that you haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.

        • Gail Combs says:

          “….What if, for example, they wear a burkha, give evidence that they were raped….”

          If they refuse to remove the burkha in a court of law then let them go home to the middle east where they will be STONED TO DEATH FOR THE CRIME OF ALLOWING THEMSELVES TO BE RAPED!

          They don’t like the customs in western countries? Well they can GO HOME!

          THIS IS MY COUNTRY WITH MY CUSTOMS! So they AND YOU can shove it where the sun don’t shine.

          Don’t ask me to be ‘sensitive top their needs’ when thanks to their murderous brothers I now have to have some butch shove her hand up my vagina if I want to fly here in the USA and I have a new bureaucracy targeting Americans because we are patriots aka as ‘Extremists’
          3 Women Say TSA Screeners Groped Vaginas During Pat-Down

          We’re now aware of three separate incidents in which TSA screeners have allegedly touched travelers vaginas during the new “enhanced” pat-downs… a TSA employee at a Dallas airport touched her breasts, buttocks, vagina area and “both of my labia”; an elementary schoolteacher from Washington says, “I didn’t really expect her to touch my vagina through my pants”….

          “The woman who checked me reached her hands inside my underwear and felt her way around,” the ABC employee says. “It was basically worse than going to the gynecologist. It was embarrassing. It was demeaning. It was inappropriate.” …
          A 61-year-old cancer survivor from Michigan says he was humiliated after a pat down broke his urostomy bag, leaving him covered in his own urine. “I was so embarrassed and so petrified of going out into the airport and people would see me and quote unquote smell me,” Thomas Sawyer tells ABC. “My underwear had dropped to the floor and I’m standing there in front of them with my underwear and had to ask to pull it up.”
          A flight attendant and breast cancer survivor says the TSA made her take off her prosthetic breast. “She put her full hand on my breast and said, ‘What is this?’ I said ‘It’s a prosthesis because I’ve had a breast cancer,'” Cathy Bossi says. “And she said, ‘You’ll need to show me that.'”
          And here’s the story of the rape survivor who was reduced to tears by a humiliating, full-body pat-down.

          As Jeffrey Goldberg at The Atlantic previously noted, the TSA seems to be deliberately making the pat-downs as invasive as possible….

        • Chris Barron says:

          Gail I sincerely hope that you weren’t one of the Americans who supported the actions of the IRA, like so many Americans did.
          I spent much of my youth being subjected to the effects of bomb threats, shopping in town, at school, and so on

          There were many high profile American celebrities and politicians who declared themselves sympathisers to the catholic republicans, and many admitted to funding the IRA, to enable them to buy guns and explosives

          Are you singing a different tune on terrorism now that it has reached your own shores ? Or did you vocalise your distaste for those who supported the IRA …not just the Libyans who helped them, but their many American friends too ? Just curious….

          The subject of USA support for the IRA is discussed by many Brits here http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1532736

  21. Chris Barron says:

    Catweazle “I live in the UK, and I can assure you that you haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.”

    As an ex constable (West Yorkshire) I assure you the police have no cause to force anyone to remove a helmet to pay for fuel…if helmet removal is a condition of sale set out by the vendor and they ask a biker to remove the helmet before fuel is pumped then they can refuse to turn the pump on I suppose. once the fuel is pumped it is the rider’s responsibility to attempt to make a reasonable attempt to pay…by walking to the counter and offering payment they achieve that aim.

    I believe you must be misinformed. Perhaps you thought the failed ‘Face Coverings (prohibition) Bill had become law ? http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-14/facecoveringsprohibition.html

    You probably need to update your view on civil liberties….the UK police have no interest in being involved in anybody’s terms and conditions of sale, where the sales of goods or services are concerned. …. a constables duty is very straightforward and involves dealing with crimes. Refusing to remove a helmet is no crime….faced with a cashier who refuses to accept payment unless the rider removes their helmet, where the rider is offering to pay, only plays into the rider’s hands.

    If pressed for time the rider can acknowledge that the garage does not want to accept payment (preferably in front of a cctv camera) and inform the cashier to advise the owner that they should write to the rider to arrange for future payment to be made, at the rider’s convenience (although the rider actually doesn’t even have to be so kind)

    ‘Making off without payment’ is covered in an amendment to the theft act

    S.3 Theft Act 1978 provides:

    …A person who, knowing that payment on the spot for any goods supplied or service done is required or expected from him, dishonestly makes off without having paid as required or expected and with intent to avoid payment of the amount shall be guilty of an offence.


    The police would most likely only advise the garage to refuse to pump fuel until their conditions of sale have been met…the rider is free to leave after honestly trying to make a payment.

    Feel free to explain , if you still wish to contradict the law of land, why a police officer would throw you behind bars for not removing your helmet when pumping fuel

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