Street Fishing In Miami

President Obama says that we need to turn control of America’s future over to the UN, in order to prevent street fishing in Miami.

“I think that as the science around climate change is more accepted, as people start realizing that even today you can put a price on the damage that climate change is doing – you know, you go down to Miami and when it’s flooding at high tide on a sunny day and fish are swimming through the middle of the streets – you know, that there’s a cost to that,” Obama said at the Paris climate talks.

Do fish really swim in Miami’s streets? Well, not exactly | Miami Herald

A flood killed 3.7 million people in China in 1931, and a drought killed 24 million people in China in 1907. But those can’t compare with the severity of imaginary street fishing in Miami.

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In 1926, they did some serious street fishing in Miami.

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But none in 2015.

While Miami Beach has certainly suffered from sunny-day floods during high tides, recent reports about fish swimming in the street have come from further north in Broward County and are far from widespread. No one’s pulling out their fishing rods on the road.

Sea level in Florida has been rising at a steady rate since CO2 was 300 PPM. People who claim that lowering CO2 will slow down sea level rise in Florida, are either idiots or liars.

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18 Responses to Street Fishing In Miami

  1. Latitude says:

    This is one of those urban legends that will not die…..
    When the roads were built….they knew they would flood at King tides. It was decided that it wasn’t worth putting tons of money into it to raise the roads and correct the drainage for something that only happens 1-2 times a year. Miami beach was not developed…and planned mostly residential…low traffic…at the time. Miami didn’t want to spend the money.
    The fish swimming in the roads came from fresh water fish swimming in the road after floods in Ft. Lauderdale. Ft. Lauderdale/Hollywood floods every time there’s a sprinkle.

    …and of course, those urban legends trick stupid people

    • Steve Case says:

      Besides all that, Miami cares so much about sea level rise that they discontinued keeping a tide gauge record in 1980

      http://www.psmsl.org/data/obtaining/stations/363.php

    • Gail Combs says:

      The roads in Columbia South Carolina also were built so they flooded when ever there was a major thunderstorm (most afternoons for rush hour traffic) I lived there during the ‘Ice Age Scare’ years in the early 1970s. I finally gave up and brought a book to work to while away the time waiting out the storm and the time it took for the flood waters to go down.

  2. annieoakley says:

    My first clue was “you know” at the start of most sentences.

  3. AndyG55 says:

    Heavy rain, causing floods in UK, USA, Qld (Australia), several South American countries.

    A lot of energy leaving the system because of this El Nino.

    The following La Nina could be quite interesting !!

    Buy blankets.

    • AndyG55 says:

      Add Philippines etc

    • Gail Combs says:

      Also buy electric generators. (We now have two) Expect the grid to overload as coal plants are shut down and NIMBYs keep replacement gas and nuclear power plants from being built.

      • AndyG55 says:

        Doubt that will happen down here.

        We have a good conservative government in NSW at the moment, and they know that shutting down the coal fired power would be complete idiocy.

        • Gail Combs says:

          My Provider is Duke Energy and they lent the Obama campaign $$$. They also blew up the coal plant near me. It looks like Duke is closing nine or so plants in or near NC and building wind and solar.

          It looks like the mid-Atlantic on either side of the Appalachians is going take the brunt of the shut-downs. We already had our transformer out on the street blow , taking out my frig, freezer, microwave and setting fire to our battery back-up surge protector.

          If we get a real prolonged cold spell through that area there just isn’t enough capacity left thanks to the Criminal in DC.

      • markstoval says:

        Gail,

        Do you know what TVA is up to on the electricity generation front?

        • Gail Combs says:

          No, I haven’t chased that down. I do know the eco-nuts are pushing the removal of dams with quite a bit of success.

          There is this from the Gov’t:

          By region

          From 2011 Hydroelectric power resources form regional clusters “…6-9% of U.S. electric generation was produced by hydropower between 1998 and 2009, depending on water availability….”

          Hydro is not being added according to this chart

          In the first six months of 2014, 4,350 megawatts (MW) of new utility-scale generating capacity came online, according to preliminary data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration’s Electric Power Monthly. Natural gas plants, almost all combined-cycle plants, made up more than half of the additions, while solar plants contributed more than a quarter and wind plants around one-sixth….

          Other. In Washington, a 122 MW hydroelectric turbine came online at the Wanapum Dam to replace the 104 MW turbine that was retired in late 2013. The dam is in the middle of a decades-long project to replace all of its turbines (which date back to 1963-64) with new, more efficient turbines one at a time.
          http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=17891

          Noth Carolina is losing coal plants and gaining solar at least in the first half of 2014 (rolls eyes)

        • Gail Combs says:

          This is a bit of a worry too. Again from Gov’t May 2014 Projected electric capacity additions are below recent historical levels

          Here is what is being closed as of 2012. (The list has expanded.)

          More than 72 gigawatts (GW) of electrical generating capacity have already, or are now set to retire because of the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) regulations. The regulations causing these closures include the Mercury and Air Toxics Standards (colloquially called MATS, or Utility MACT)[1], proposed Cross State Air Pollution Rule (CSAPR)[2], and the proposed regulation of carbon dioxide emissions from existing power plants.
          http://instituteforenergyresearch.org/topics/policy/power-plant-closures/

          POWER PLANT RETIREMENT LIST

    • Gail Combs says:

      They need to ask the Dutch. They are the real experts on sea level and they have found the cycle.

      Local Relative Sea Level
      To determine the relevance of the nodal cycle at the Dutch coast, a spectral analysis was carried out on the yearly means of six main tidal gauges for the period 1890–2008. The data were corrected for atmospheric pressure variation using an inverse barometer correction. The spectral density shows a clear peak at the 18.6 -year period (Figure 1). The multiple linear regression yields a sea-level rise (b1) of 0.19 +/- 0.015 cm y-1 (95%), an amplitude (A) of 1.2 +/- 0.92 cm, and a phase(w) of -1.16 (with 1970 as 0), resulting in a peak in February 2005 (Figure 2). No significant acceleration (inclusion of b2) was found.
      CONCLUSIONS
      Coastal management requires estimates of the rate of sealevel rise. The trends found locally for the Dutch coast are the same as have been found in the past 50 years (Deltacommissie, 1960; Dillingh et al., 1993). Even though including the nodal cycle made it more likely that the high-level scenarios would become apparent in the observations, no acceleration in the rate of sea-level rise was found. The higher, recent rise (van den Hurk et al., 2007) coincides with the up phase of the nodal cycle. For the period 2005 through 2011, the Dutch mean sea-level is expected to drop because the lunar cycle is in the down phase. This shows the importance of including the 18.6-year cycle in regional sea-level estimates. Not doing so on a regional or local scale for decadal length projections leads to inaccuracies.
      (wwwDOT)bioone.org/doi/pdf/10.2112/JCOASTRES-D-11-00169.1

  4. Justa Joe says:

    You know you’re BS’ing when you have to make up crazy stories to promote your agenda. Steven Schneider would be so proud.

  5. Leon Brozyna says:

    Obooboo talks … why would anyone listen?

  6. Rosco says:

    I’ll see your fish and raise you a croc !

    In the 2011 flood in Ingham North Queensland a crocodile was swimming through the flooded streets in the centre of town. So what – these things happen during floods – the fish aren’t invading !

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