Twenty Years Of The Same Climate Stupid

Exactly 20 years ago, the East Coast was hit by a huge blizzard similar to what is forecast this weekend. Climate experts immediately blamed it on global warming.


21 Jan 1996, Page 10 – at

Four years later, experts said that children just won’t know what snow is.


Monday 20 March 2000

the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which are less cold than in much hotter summers. According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”.

“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” he said.

Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past – Environment – The Independent

Five years later the IPCC said that global warming will reduce cold and heavy snowstorms.

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IPCC Third Assessment Report


IPCC – Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

In 2008, Robert Kennedy Jr. blamed the demise of snow on Sarah Palin.

Palin’s Big Oil infatuation
Los Angeles Times
September 24, 2008


In Virginia, the weather also has changed dramatically. Recently arrived residents in the northern suburbs, accustomed to today’s anemic winters, might find it astonishing to learn that there were once ski runs on Ballantrae Hill in McLean, with a rope tow and local ski club. Snow is so scarce today that most Virginia children probably don’t own a sled. But neighbors came to our home at Hickory Hill nearly every winter weekend to ride saucers and Flexible Flyers.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Residents of McLean, Virginia will be astonished to be under two feet of snow Sunday morning.


After the 2010 blizzard, progressives became very angry that nature wasn’t cooperating with their scam.


22 Feb 2010, Page 17 – at

Two Saturday’s ago I did my favorite bike ride up the Potomac to Harpers Ferry, West Virginia. They are expecting about two feet of snow this weekend.


The New York Times and Washington Post will of course blame it on global warming. If they had a repeat of the 1888 blizzard, they would say scientists are 99% certain of the human CO2 footprint.


We are truly dealing with the stupidest people who ever lived – also known as climate experts.

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45 Responses to Twenty Years Of The Same Climate Stupid

  1. The “Progressive” movement consists of liars and manipulators that know exactly what they are doing, supported by a large gullible group of people that believe they are the smart ones.

    It doesn’t matter how stupid the racket is. It works like a charm. It always did.

  2. Andy DC says:

    I believe there has been a definite trend for more big snowstorms along the east coast. For example in 1958, Boston’s record snowfall over an 80 year period was 16.6″. Since 1958, that old record has been beaten at least a dozen times.

    Washington, DC had no 15″ snowstorms between 1922 and 1979, but since 1979 has had 6 and is about to get its 7th.

    What that has to do with global warming, beats me. The BS about warmth causing more snow does not hold water with me, because DC is usually too warm to snow.

    I have read about the huge snows of the Colonial period, both in the Washington and Boston area. I imagine those were caused by excessive horse farting or George Washington eating too many Mexican beans.

    • Gail Combs says:

      In the plants don’t lie but ClimAstrologists do, category.

      Christopher Columbus brought seeds of citrus trees and had them planted near what is currently St. Augustine. (Northern Florida)

      Timeline of Major Florida Freezes

      *Impact Freeze: a freeze so severe that it annihilates entire groves across the state, killing both mature and young citrus trees, while causing a profound economic impact on the citrus industry and usually prompting growers to replant farther south.

      1894-5 – the freezes of 1894 and 1895 created an *impact freeze situation that devastated citrus growers and rearranged the geography of the Florida citrus industry.

      1940 (coldest on record)
      1962 – … The freezing temperatures arrived in Florida on December 12-13, creating the third *impact freeze in the state of Florida. It was considered an *impact freeze because it caused the most damage to trees and fruit of any other 20th century freeze to date.

      1977- This freeze created the rare conditions in Florida for snow to stick to the ground. The freeze of 1977 also reinforced and accelerated grower movement south.

      1981 – Hard freezing temperatures arrived in Florida on January 12-14. This freeze was comparable to the freeze of 1977.

      1983 – This freeze was more severe than the 1977 and 1981 freezes. It occurred on December 24-25 and was so detrimental because the Frost Warning Service missed the forecast….

      1985 – The freeze of 1985 occurred on January 20-22. It was a hard freeze; however, its effects were felt so severely because growers had not yet recovered from the 1983 freeze. The combined effects of the freezes of 1983 and 1985 added up to an *impact freeze situation.

      1989 – This freeze occurred on December 22-26. This freeze was the fifth *impact freeze recorded in Florida history, however it was the second *impact freeze in a single decade, leaving growers little time to recover after the freezes of 1983 and 1985.”

      There were 13 hard freezes recorded in 180 years.
      With five hard freezes within 12 years, I doubt the old timer citrus growers think there is Gore Bull Warming.

      • Analitik says:

        Maybe they do since there hasn’t been a freeze since 1989

        • Gail Combs says:

          Not Hardly!

          It is just that the data at that web page ended in 1989 and the MSM doesn’t cover cold weather events beyond the local.

          November 20, 2014 – 141-year-old cold record shattered in Jacksonville Florida.
          For the second morning in a row, Jacksonville, Florida, dropped to a new record low. The thermometer at Jacksonville International Airport plummeted down to 27°F (-2.8 C) on Wednesday morning, breaking the old record of 28°F set in 2008. Thursday morning’s temperature dropped to a bone chilling 24°F (-4.5 C) breaking the old record of 30°F (-1.1 C)set in 1873. Thursday’s 24°F also marks the second lowest temperature ever recorded in the entire month of November.

          In January 2010, parts of Florida were hit with an historic cold wave, the coldest since records began in 1873. With temperatures hovering around the freezing point, the cold destroyed millions of dollars of crops and killed at least two people. Florida waters were a full 14 degrees F (8 C) below normal. Centuries-old coral wiped out by record cold. “Some of the hardest hit corals were from the genus Montastraea — large, boulder-size corals. Many colonies were centuries old.

          In the beginning of January 2014 a historic and deadly freeze locked almost the entire United States under subfreezing temperatures Tuesday, closing schools, delaying trains and buses, and forcing cancellation of more than 9,000 flights. Single-digit (Fahrenheit) temperatures (-18 to -13 C) were recorded as far south as Georgia and Alabama.
          A 118-year-old record fell in Central Park in New York, where it was 5 F (-15 C), the coldest ever for Jan. 7. Temperature records were shattered in many states, including Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Arkansas, Michigan, Maryland, Ohio, Pennsylvania and New York. It got so cold that a Chicago zoo had to move its polar bear and penguins inside. Hard freeze warnings for Tuesday extended all the way south to the Gulf Coast. In fact, freezing temperatures reached as far south as Florida, said Brian Korty, a National Weather Service meteorologist. There was quite a bit of power loss too.

          The east coast got slammed again a few weeks later. The Deep South hunkered down on Tuesday for what could be its worst snow and ice in a generation, stretching from Texas to the Carolinas. In New Bern, North Carolina, where the last 6-inch snowfall happened in 1989, got as much as 7 inches. Schools were closed from Texas through the Florida Panhandle and up to North Carolina. The Johnson Space Center in Houston shut down for the day.

          And at the end of March (March 27, 2014) Toledo, Ohio, broke a 120-year-old record. The low of 9F (-12.8C) broke the previous record of 11 F (-11.7C) set in 1894. In Detroit, Michigan, the record low of 11 F for March 26 was tied. In Macon, Georgia, the low of 26 F (-3.3C) broke the old record set most recently in 2006. Freezing temperatures dipped into the Deep South Wednesday morning, including Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina and northern Florida.
          January 2015 saw a couple of cold waves bringing Florida to at or below freezing. On January 10, 2015, “Snow danced over the streets of Jacksonville Thursday for the first time in five years and tied the record for the day of a trace set 57 years ago,” says

          On February 20, 2015 Jacksonville, Florida at 24 F again broke the record for cold. “Some locations in the Northeast are challenging their coldest February on record,” says Senior Meteorologist Joe Lundberg.

        • gator69 says:

          My mother lives in a part of Florida that had huge commercial orange groves until 1989. They still get freezes (mom gets lows in the teens at least once a year now), but since there are no orange groves anymore, it is not reported.

      • Andy DC says:

        Those freezes in the 1980’s were unusually severe, literally wiped out the groves north of Orlando. Believe it or not, I used to dabble in orange juice futures and made a fair amount of money from them. Since the groves have moved south, it is not as easy as it used to be.

    • Latitude says:

      Gail, and especially Gator…you guys will get a kick out of this..
      ….at one time there was citrus as far north as South Carolina

      • Gail Combs says:

        I am not that surprised. I am in mid NC (Piedmont) and we rarely get snow. So there were decades when the coastal areas were warm enough in SC and Georgia.

  3. willys36 says:

    The Progressive/Socialist/Marxist/Communist/Liberal philosophy is amoral, not immoral. Thus they can through a twisted perverted form of logic be 100% convinced that whatever they are saying at the moment is the absolute truth. Slick Willie, Mrs. Clinton, Algore, Hussein, Fidel Castro, Adolf Hitler, Frank Roosevelt, et al, were/are the most honest people who have ever walked the earth. They are by definition incapable of lying.

    • “The sole conclusion to be drawn from the opinion of the Marxists that Marx’s theory is an objective truth is that by following the path of Marxist theory we shall draw closer and closer to objective truth (without ever exhausting it); but by following any other path we shall arrive at nothing but confusion and lies.”

      V.I. Lenin
      Materialism and Empirio-Criticism, 1908
      Critical Comments on a Reactionary Philosophy

      The path. You must follow the one true path or you get nothing but reactionary lies.

    • Gail Combs says:

      “The sole conclusion to be drawn from the opinion of the Marxists [on] Marx’s theory” is that the sociopathic politicos have been deliberately gaslighting the Middle Class for decades in order to render them insane enough to actually want a return to serfdom.

      • Ted says:

        If this were little league baseball, the gaslighting would have been ended by the mercy rule, decades ago. The return to serfdom you speak of came in 1971, when Nixon decreed that the government could arbitrarily redefine the value of the money in your pocket. Arguably, that date could be pushed back to 1933.

        1984 is here. Some would say it came on time. Others would say it was a little late. But it would be futile to argue that we still haven’t achieved, and surpassed, that level of coercion. Well over 90% of the American population now carries a camera, microphone, and tracking device with them wherever they go. The government freely admits that they can turn those features on and off at will, without you knowing. Yet almost everyone still PAYS FOR THE PRIVILEGE. People lose their jobs for expressing beliefs still held by the majority, but no longer allowed by the aristocracy. Just last year, a court ruled that it’s entirely proper to take an old man’s property (a multibillion dollar basketball team) over beliefs that were mainstream just 30 years ago, expressed in an illegally recorded phone call. And for those not paying attention, the united States government has spent the last few decades working on overt mind control:
        If thoughts can be read, you can be damned well sure they can be written. And keep in mind, this is only what they’re admitting to. I’d guess we have about 20-30 years left before this technology really matures. If these brain chips are the next step in the cell phone craze, then it’s game over. If they find a way to do this remotely, it’s game over. This technology is the end of free will. Disobedience will become literally unthinkable. In the foreseeable future, it will no longer be enough to love Big Brother. We’ll be asked, then eventually forced, to invite him in to our thoughts. If you’re not THINKING anything wrong, then what are you afraid of? That’s why I’m rooting for a total economic collapse. I’d rather see us return to the dark ages, than live out what certain parts of the ruling class are openly planning for us.

  4. inMAGICn says:

    Re your final line.
    I truly wish they were stupid, but alas, I don’t think they are. There motivations are far worse: cupidity trumps stupidity, and political propensity outweights mental density.

  5. Neal S says:

    I just read a washington post article

    It is almost funny to count how many lies can be fit into one article.

  6. QV says:

    Third coldest NFL game in history didn’t get much publicity in the UK!

    I suppose “global warming” was the reason it wasn’t the coldest.

  7. John C says:

    (more CO2) => (solar energy in) > (energy radiated) => (planet warms). Ultimately it’s simple, and there really is no doubt it’s happening. It’s hard to understand why that is so difficult to accept…sigh.

    • Jason Calley says:

      “Ultimately it’s simple”

      No, it really is not simple. Anyone who thinks it is simple is like the first grade student who thinks that all math is simple because teacher told him about subtraction and the process made sense to him.

      Pardon the snark — but if anyone tells you that anything about global climate is simple, then be aware that they do not know much about climate.

    • Gail Combs says:

      John C , it ain’t simple dude.
      ClimAstrologists treat the sun’s energy as constant. Since they use TSI (Total Solar Insolation) instead of looking at the variation in different wavelengths they completely blow it.

      An example of JUST ONE aspect of our variable sun affecting climate.

      Solar radiation at 130–175 nm (Schumann-Runge continuum) is completely absorbed in the thermosphere. Over activity cycles 21–23, solar radiative flux in this spectral range varied by about 10–15% (Figure 5a), i.e., by more than a factor of 100 more than solar cycle variations in the solar total energy flux (total solar irradiance). In the oxygen Schumann-Runge bands (175–200 nm) and Herzberg continuum (200–242 nm), important for photochemical ozone production and destruction in the stratosphere and mesosphere, solar irradiance varied on average by about 5–8% (Figure 5b)

      ΔUV(1)(2) ===> ΔOzone (3) ===> ΔStratospheric Temperature(4) ===> Δtropopause height(4) + Δ wind strength of jets(5) and motion**(6) + Δstrength of the stratospheric vortex (7)(8) + ΔOzone hole (9)

      (Δ = Changes in)
      (**Blocking phenomenon = Loopy jets)


      (1) NASA 2007 before the deep solar minimum.: ” In recent years, SIM has collected data that suggest the sun’s brightness may vary in entirely unexpected ways… “We have never had a reason until now to believe that parts of the spectrum may vary out of phase with the solar cycle, but now we have started to model that possibility because of the SIM results,” …
      “Between 2004 and 2007, the Solar Irradiance Monitor (blue line) measured a decrease in ultraviolet radiation (less than 400 nanometers) that was a factor of four to six larger than expected.”

      (2)NASA 2009 “…A 12-year low in solar “irradiance”: Careful measurements by several NASA spacecraft show that the sun’s brightness has dropped by 0.02% at visible wavelengths and 6% at extreme UV wavelengths since the solar minimum of 1996….” science(DOT)

      (3)Solar Spectral Irradiance Data

      Research and Applications
      Because of selective absorption and scattering processes in the Earth’s atmosphere, different regions of the solar spectrum affect Earth’s climate in distinct ways. Approximately 20-25% of the Total Solar Irradiance (TSI) is absorbed by atmospheric water vapor, clouds, and ozone, by processes that are strongly wavelength dependent. Ultraviolet radiation at wavelengths below 300 nm is completely absorbed by the Earth’s atmosphere and contributes the dominant energy source in the stratosphere and thermosphere, establishing the upper atmosphere’s temperature, structure, composition, and dynamics. Even small variations in the Sun’s radiation at these short wavelengths will lead to corresponding changes in atmospheric chemistry. Radiation at the longer visible and infrared wavelengths penetrates into the lower atmosphere, where the portion not reflected is partitioned between the troposphere and the Earth’s surface, and becomes a dominant term in the global energy balance and an essential determinant of atmospheric stability and convection.

      (4)Changes in Ozone and Stratospheric Temperature

      The graph above shows total ozone and stratospheric temperatures over the Arctic since 1979. Changes in ozone amounts are closely linked to temperature, with colder temperatures resulting in more polar stratospheric clouds and lower ozone levels. Atmospheric motions drive the year-to-year temperature changes. The Arctic stratosphere cooled slightly since 1979, but scientists are currently unsure of the cause….


      Ozone is an important atmospheric trace constituent. The depletion of solar radiation between approximately 2000 and 3000 A is the result of strong absorption by ozone in the ultraviolet wave-lengths. The energy absorbed in this process is the prime source of thermal energy in the stratosphere. Because of this, ozone plays an important role in the large-scale motions of the atmosphere….

      ….A strong correlation was found between the meridional gradient of total ozone and the wind velocity in jet stream systems…..

      (6)Top-Down Solar Modulation of Climate: evidence for centennial-scale change

      The work presented here is consistent with the interpretation of a recently reported effect [25] of solar variability on the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) and European winter temperatures over the interval 1659–2010 in terms of top-down modulation of the blocking phenomenon [52, 53]. In fact, Woollings et al [26] show that the solar response pattern is, despite being similar in form to that of the NAO, significantly different in that it reaches further east. These authors also show that open solar flux has a much stronger control over blocking events in this sector than the previously reported effect of F10.7 [55]. There is seasonality in the solar responses reported here. This is expected as modulation of upwards-propagating planetary waves in wintertime, and the associated stratosphere– troposphere interaction, is most widely believed to be the key mechanism [8, 11]. In addition, the tropospheric signature is a response of the eddy-driven jet streams, and these are at their strongest and most responsive in winter. While the results are presented here as annual means, the regression analysis was actually carried out on monthly mean data and thus takes this seasonality into account. The seasonal evolution of the F10.7 cm flux regression was described in detail by Frame and Gray [53] and this was not significantly affected by using either the open solar flux FS nor the cosmic ray flux, M, instead of F10.7.”

      Click to access 1748-9326_5_3_034008.pdf

      (7a)The NAO Troposphere–Stratosphere Connection “Using monthly mean data, daily data, and theoretical arguments, relationships between surface pressure variations associated with the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO), tropopause height, and the strength of the stratospheric vortex are established.”

      (8)Quasi-biennial oscillation and solar cycle influences on winter Arctic total ozone


      The total column ozone (TCO) observed from satellites and assimilated in the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts since 1979 is used as an atmospheric tracer to study the modulations of the winter Arctic stratosphere by the quasi-biennial oscillation (QBO) and the solar cycle. It is found that both the QBO and solar forcings in low latitudes can perturb the late winter polar vortex, likely via planetary wave divergence, causing an early breakdown of the vortex in the form of sudden stratospheric warming. As a result, TCO within the vortex in late winter can increase by ~60 Dobson unit during either a solar maximum or an easterly phase of the QBO, or both, relative to the least perturbed state when the solar cycle is minimum and the QBO is in the westerly phase. In addition, from the solar maximum to the solar minimum during the QBO easterly phase, the change in TCO is found to be statistically insignificant. Therefore, the “reversal” of the Holton–Tan effect, reported in some previous studies using lower stratospheric temperature, is not evident in the TCO behavior of both observation and assimilation.

      (9)Climate System Response to Stratospheric Ozone Depletion and Recovery

      Compared to well-mixed greenhouse gases (GHGs), the radiative forcing of climate due to observed stratospheric ozone loss is very small: in spite of this, recent trends in stratospheric ozone have caused profound changes in the Southern Hemisphere (SH) climate system, primarily by altering the tropospheric midlatitude jet, which is commonly described as a change in the Southern Annular Mode. Ozone depletion in the late twentieth century was the primary driver of the observed poleward shift of the jet during summer, which has been linked to changes in tropospheric and surface temperatures, clouds and cloud radiative effects, and precipitation at both middle and low latitudes. It is emphasized, however, that not all aspects of the SH climate response to stratospheric ozone forcing can be understood in terms of changes in the midlatitude jet. The response of the Southern Ocean and sea ice to ozone depletion is currently a matter of debate. ….

    • gator69 says:

      Simple? Really?

      1- List all climate forcings, order them from most to least effectual, and then quantify them all.

      2- Please provide even one peer reviewed paper that refutes natural variability as the cause of recent, or any, global climate changes.

      There is nothing unusual or unprecedented about our climate, or how we got here. For 4,500,000,000 years climates have always changed, naturally. This means there has been a set precedent, and the burden of proof falls on natural climate change deniers like yourself

  8. gator69 says:

    The climate morons want is to believe that man altered the global climate 7000 years ago via farming. It is astounding what group hysteria breeds.

    • Gail Combs says:

      Not all that long ago humans faced extinction according to some. NPR even had us down to 40 “breeding pairs”

      …According to the supporters of the genetic bottleneck theory, between 50,000 and 100,000 years ago, human population suffered a severe population decrease—only 3,000 to 10,000 individuals survived—followed eventually by rapid population increase, innovation, progress and migration.

      Several geneticists, including Lynn Jorde and Henry Harpending have proposed that the human race was reduced to approximately five to ten thousand people.[27] Genetic evidence suggests that all humans alive today, despite apparent variety, are descended from a very small population, perhaps between 1,000 to 10,000 breeding pairs about 70,000 years ago…

      Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins has postulated that human mitochondrial DNA (inherited only from one’s mother) and Y chromosome DNA (from one’s father) show coalescence at around 140,000 and 60,000 years ago respectively. In other words, all living humans’ female line ancestry trace back to a single female (Mitochondrial Eve) at around 140,000 years ago. Via the male line, all humans can trace their ancestry back to a single male (Y-chromosomal Adam) at 60,000 to 90,000 years ago.[42]

      This is consistent with the Toba catastrophe theory which suggests that a bottleneck of the human population occurred c. 70,000 years ago, proposing that the human population was reduced to c. 15,000 individuals[43] when the Toba supervolcano in Indonesia erupted and triggered a major environmental change, including a volcanic winter. The theory is based on geological evidences of sudden climate change at that time, and on coalescence evidences of some genes (including mitochondrial DNA, Y-chromosome and some nuclear genes)[44] and the relatively low level of genetic variation among present-day humans.[43]…

  9. Andy Oz says:

    Climate experts are almost as funny as Bill Cosby, and as talented as Rolf Harris.
    Both of whom will do some serious time.

  10. Latitude says:

    accuweather just said this “colossal” storm could bring up to a foot of snow…

    I’d hate to see what they’d call a real snow storm

    • Gail Combs says:

      five to six feet of snow like Buffalo got.

    • I. Lou Minotti says:

      Here in the People’s Republic of New Jersey, you can get fined for shoveling your neighbors out of all this “global warming/climate change” white stuff:

      Thank God I’ll soon be moving to a more snow-shoveling friendly state.

      • Gail Combs says:

        GOOD GRIEF! That is totally absurd.

        Back during the late 1970s when Rochester NY got hit with major snow storms, I went around with a shovel on my cross country skis to help the older folk dig out. The last thing I wanted was a neighbor dropping dead of a heart attack because no one helped.

        • gator69 says:

          It is becoming clear that our abusive Uncle Sam does not want kids to have jobs. It is so much easier to control those who have grown up never knowing responsibility or self worth.

        • Gail Combs says:

          Not only kids but anyone. Gone are the jobs like lawn mowing, gardening, baby sitting, house cleaning, taking in laundry, sewing/tailoring, ironing… The change in tax codes making the ’employer’ have to file 1099s killed the domestic help/home service business.

          Heck you can’t even sell lemonade at a kiddie lemonade stand or have a homemade pie sale for church.

          If the regulations and tax laws don’t kill you the darn insurance companies will. A friend had a one man office cleaning service. Another had a hack stable & hay ride business The insurance companies hiked the premiums and put both out of business. With my small business the first Insurance company I had wanted to know my gross revenue and then took 10% of the gross. In many companies, especially start-ups 10% is your net profit… IF you are lucky!

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