A physics professor has offered $30,000 for anyone who can disprove a straw man argument, which no one disagrees with.
Physics professor and climate change expert Dr. Christopher Keating is offering a $30,000 reward to anyone who can disprove that man-made climate change is real.
Physicist Offers $30,000 Reward To Anyone Who Can Disprove Climate Change « CBS DC
That straw man offer is worthless, but I am going to go way past Keating’s offer and give people the opportunity to win one hundred trillion dollars – by simply proving any one of these five statements made by actual climate authorities.
Multi-meter sea level rise on the century time scale (is) not only possible, but almost dead certain.
– NASA’s James Hansen
“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,”
– David Viner CRU 2000
Antarctica is likely to be the world’s only habitable continent by the end of this century if global warming remains unchecked, the Government’s chief scientist, Professor Sir David King, said last week.
– David King (UK Chief scientist)
there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap during some of the summer months will be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years
– Al Gore Nobel laureate and climate expert 2009
And yes, I am currently in possession of the one hundred trillion dollars government issued currency prize. It is sitting next to me at my desk, and every bit as valuable as a NASA temperature graph.
Runner up wins a Toyyoda
Don’t be giving Dear Leader any ideas now.
Obummer’s picture must be on the backside of that bill.
It’s a brain scan on the front
Today’s winner! 😆
Obama’s picture is on the front of the bill. He’s carrying three big rocks.
The “Double ought” obama bill
http://www.amazon.com/Obama-Double-Novelty-Money-Dollar/dp/B008UE2TZ2
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Obama-Funny-Money-Zero-Dollars-Novelty-Dollar-Bill-/230623643464
Used one of those bills to fill up my gas tank this evening, I did.
Only one? Gas much be cheap in your area…LOL!
I’ll offer $100 USD to anyone that can prove that UFO’s are not extra-terrestrial vehicles. We can do this all night.
Some UFOs are certainly US military black projects. That was proven when the stealth aircraft were finally officially announced decades ago. It was also proven by the sketchy Bob Lazar who could take people out to the desert and watch “UFOs” because one way or another he knew the test schedule*. So where’s my $100?
*I don’t believe Lazar, but he did prove he knew when stuff would be flying.
Once you know what they are then they are no longer UFOs.
ex·tra·ter·res·tri·al
ˌekstrətəˈrestrēəl/Submit
adjective
1.
of or from outside the earth or its atmosphere.
Well, technically and linguistically speaking a UFO is any flying object that hasn’t been identified by the observer or observers. So I can identify several objects that were UFOs and are terrestrial. I win the hundred bucks. Well… except that… If an object is not identified we cannot ascertain whether or not they are terrestrial or extra-terrestrial. And if they are identified, as I have done, and their source ascertained, they are no longer unidentified, therefore, they do not fit the original description of being unidentified, so their origin is moot. D’oh!
Unknown to most UFO nuts was the leak many decades ago concerning the interior of the Roswell craft which was a composite material like our carbon fiber except according to the researcher involved it used the vascular bundle of dandelion leaves as the strengthener.
This was held up as proof that UFOs are terrestrial however I always believed it is not proof enough in that extraterrestrials could and would make craft here if they chose.
It doesn’t even qualify as a straw man, because the requirement is to prove a negative, which is a logical impossibility. I can prove a black swan exists by producing a black swan. But there is no way I can prove that green, red, yellow or purple swans don’t exist. Unless I was omnipotent, of course.
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/21800000/Swan-Lake-bright-colors-21811282-1280-800.jpg
Your three point five eight (3.58) MHz osc is free running; it is no longer ‘locked’ to the incoming ‘color burst’ reference signal …
LOL…………….
Hey, I saw one of those out on the lake a little while ago. I remember it well, because I’d just finished a lovely risotto made with mushrooms I found in the cow paddock down the road.
Not entirely.
The scientific method depends on being able to prove some specific types of negative. If I have a theory, then an observation that does not match the theory must prove the theory is not correct (i.e. prove a negative). This requires that the theory be falsifiable. Some theories are so broad that they are not falsifiable.
Suppose I claim there’s something running around in the fridge every time you close the door, but it hides without trace when you go and look. By definition this entity cannot be observed, so no matter what you do you cannot prove it doesn’t exist.
However, suppose I claim there’s a purple leprechaun sitting right in the middle of your keyboard, all the time and tweaking you on the nose as well. It’s easy to prove the negative, right? I mean you take a look and you say, “Nope, it ain’t there!”
Generally speaking if one is discussing inductive logic one is referring to the general case, not the special case. I.e., you can’t prove that the sun won’t rise tomorrow, although it’s very likely that it will. But I can prove that the sun rose on the 4th of July.
Offer me enough money and I will come up with any color swan you want. It will even SPARKLE!
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Al Gore’s comment about “the entire north polar ice cap” would seem to include Greenland as well. How nuts is this guy?
Not nuts at all. He’s made quite a lot of money from it. We know he doesn’t believe it. It shows in his actions. Beach front mansion, a home/office compound in his home state that consumes as much energy as a third world country or something like that…. he flies all over the planet consuming much more energy than needed by a mundane to just get from a to b. their actions always give them away.
Man Made Climate Change has to be recognizable first. No one has found a way to do that yet.
Andrew
Wait for it: because no-one in their right mind will take up the offer, he’ll proclaim “victory”. The only thing he achieves here is his own proof that he’s an idiot.
Do I get an extra digit if I prove Mann made climate change is real? Does it go to $30,0000?
It goes to $030,000, with the climate scientists issuing a press release saying “the science” now says AGW is an order of magnitude worse than previously thought.
The words say one hundred trillion dollars, but the numbers say one hunded billion dollars.
1,000,000 = 1 million
1,000,000,000 = 1 thousand million
1,000,000,000,000 = 1 billiion
I am not an American. I can count.
The American definition vs. most of the rest of the world…
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/words/how-many-is-a-billion
Sadly, the Australian media (at least) has jumped on the bandwagon. It goes a way to showing how much they’re concerned with fact checking.
Dave n kbray You have read the link entry haven’t you?
“Dave n kbray You have read the link entry haven’t you?”
Sure. Australia is part of the British Commonwealth. Perhaps you’re mistaking us for being part of the US?
“Dave n kbray You have read the link entry haven’t you?”
Bob, the point is is that there are still 2 definitions for the word “billion” (and trillion and whatever). The US definition generally dominates the world now, however I have many European friends that have tried to correct me over the years. The confusion obviously still exists.
Sorry, wrong answer. For homework find correct answer.
At this point what does it matter?
WolframAlpha.com, the makers of Mathematica, says that “100000000000000” is “100 Trillion”, http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=100000000000000.
Can just call it an even bajillion and be done with it?
We have not invented the numbers “hunded” or “billion” yet, so you have us there.
I want someone to disprove that little green aliens (not the Mexican kind) will take over the world in 50 years.
Andy:
The only way to disprove that is to wait 50 years. Even then it might be questionable! 😉
Just like CACC!
A standard sleazy debating tactic is to put words into the mouth of someone with whom he disagrees. Or to reword something he actually did say. Here’s the actual quote:
“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,”
– David Viner CRU 2000
Now here’s Wet Blanket Larry’s revised version:
“Children just aren’t going to know what real science is.”
I’d like my 100 trillion in gold, please. 🙂
Also the comment from Sir David King was not true – this was the version of Geoffrey Lean, idiot environmental columnist in the DT. King said ” current CO2 level are highest for 56m years.. when the Antarctic was the best place to be ….the rest of the world was uninhabitable”. He was referring to the Eocene Thermal Maximum – 30m years before the Antarctic ice sheet first formed. This was not a stupid belief but a deliberate deceit of a house of commons select committee in 2004. In that (warm) era the whole planet was teeming with diverse life – it was the high tide of the age of the mammals. Even with 6 months of night Antarctica was balmy. Life adapted to the long diurnal.
There is an old lady in my village who has a black cat. I offer 3 guineas to anyone who can prove the cat doesn’t turn into the devil at night.
Burning the old lady and seeing if she survives doesn’t count. She might still be a witch. I want proof.
“Dr. Christopher Keating is offering a $30,000 reward to anyone who can disprove that man-made climate change is real.”
Argumentum ad Ignorantiam.
Keating is the same guy who labeled me “the Gestapo of the Heartland Institute” in one of his blog posts. His blog got swamped with commenters, so he swapped over systems which erased most of his comment content. But where he stooped to Nazi name-calling, the comment section dialog between him and me lives on in archive form, fully establishing Keating’s inability to answer straight-up challenges: http://archive.today/Ctwun
I would really like one of those bills as a souvenir, but I am not going to waste time trying to prove idiots correct.
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Here’s a better link:
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There’s a picture on the net of a sign in a restaurant rest room in South Africa with a list of things not to throw in the toilet. One of the items was Zim dollars.
It was actually a sound financial decision:
http://freakonomics.com/2008/12/18/freak-shots-when-money-goes-down-the-toilet/
Zimbabwe 100 Trillion Dollar Bank Note 2008 Uncirculated
http://www.amazon.com/Zimbabwe-Trillion-Dollar-Bank-Uncirculated/dp/B002X1970I
I thought they quit printing on the reverse side due to ink costing more than the note is worth.
Water colors .. they’ve gone to watercolors … but be careful, the bills are no longer ‘laundry-able’ …
That’s ok. There is no water or soap for laundry there in any event.
That looks like some kinda “BULL” on the back,
maybe those are cow chips on the front…
…our leader’s “SH!T for Brains”
(as per brain scan)
Collectors have jacked up the price to $5 (USD). Which is more than it was ever worth while it was legal tender.
Hey!
I can prove them
97% of “scientists”
(as identified by the eco-religious fanatic folk)
agree “climate change” is:
1. real – of course the climate is changing,
this ain’t the Minoan Warm period anymore and
the Ice age will be here pretty soon
2. man-made – of course
UHI is a huge factor around the eco-religious zealot’s concrete condos
and they claim they are responsible for it!
That’s about as “clueless egotist made” as you can get.
3. dangerous – of course, the UHI is raising the a/c bills dangerously high!
those poor surplus population are starving
as they struggle to pay their
skyrocketing gasoline bills, electric bills, and no jobs
since they were replace with bots, really simple bots at that!…
Now, the other 3%, they are token poster children to gain sympathy
The multi-meter sea rise, of course,
back in 15000 BC or so when the Columba ice dam broke
and the Missoula Floods drained most of the Pacific NW!
Not know what snow is?
Of course, with current educational indoctrination,
the clueless eco-religious fanatics have removed “snow”
from the Wiki so the kids can’t know what it is
as they plagiarize for their course from their social media.
Last I check, Antarctica is the only continent really habitable….. to penguins.
and, compared to 25,000 BC, the Arctic is really “ice free”: shoot, there is even some open water.
There, I’ve proved them all, where’s my dough?
Haaa, Haaa, Haaa!
What Keating is attempting to do is change the null hypothesis. No one need disprove man made climate change, the null hypothesis is that all climate change is natural. The burden of proof is on Keating and others to prove otherwise, which of course no one has yet accomplished.
Very few people say that there is no global warming. And almost everyone also says humans have caused some warming.
My estimate for the effect of CO2 is 0.7 C/doubling. That is quite harmless, since to get more than 2 C of warming you’d have to put about 30 times as much CO2 into the atmosphere that we have done since Ug discovered fire. Its isn’t going to happen.
Dr Keating should ask the correct question: who can disprove CAGW? I think he’d get quite a few takers, including me, since no one has yet shown my calc is wrong.
I would go about this another way. Have the Physics Professor detail the studies that would be required to disprove man is causing AGW.
1) Has the rate of change of temperature increased since man started producing CO2? Nope.
2) Is there a lead in CO2 vs temperature? Nope
3) Has the relationship between CO2 and Temp been altered since man strated producing CO2? Nope.
4) Has the rate of chance of sea level increased since man started producing CO2? Nope.
5) Has CO2 increases led to run away catastrophic temperature increases in the past? Nope.
6) Is there any time in history when climate wasn’t changing?
7) What evidence is there that climate is changing any more today than before man?
8) How can you have a 97% concensus when 95% of IPCC models have been rejected at the 95% confidence level?
9) What caused the ice ages during periods of much higher CO2 if CO2 is the cause of warming?
10) How can a 97% concensus be reached when there aren’t the data sets to construct a proper model? What long term solar data do they have? What long term cloud cover data do the have? What longterm ocean temperature do they have? What surface level solar radiation data do they have? What long term humidity data do they have? This “science” hasn’t even begun to collect the data required to reach a “97% concensus” in any real science.
Bottom line, there isn’t a single study the professor will be able to point to that will prove his point. He won’t even be able to point to studies were flasks of varying CO2 levels around 400 ppms trap measurable heat. Turn the tables on this professor, force him to defend his conclusion and evidednce in public.
I forgot the most importatant question for the Physist, how will raising taxes result in the government being able to control the climate? Just what solution do the AGW alarmists offer the world? How will the government be able to control the climate, let alone weather? What solutions do they offer, and at what cost? How much will it cost in human suffering to keep CO2 at 350PPM?
Um, I’d hang on to that note, Steve.
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