RSS uses a 1979-1998 baseline, and shows most of Africa below normal temperature in August.
Gavin has no data for most of Africa
So he simply makes up data, and shows almost all of Africa above the 1979-1998 average
Gavin is telling people that August was the hottest ever even though his own data says it isn’t – and he is basing his claim on bogus warm temperatures which were fabricated from no data.
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Gavin does not have the insanity of Hansen, so he is trying harder.
Steven, really appreciate your site. Check it everyday. What site would you recommend to stay informed on the GMO debate? I get tired of hearing about foodbabe. the misinformation from anti-gmo crowd is so similar to the climate alarmists. Thanks!
I don’t know much about it, sorry.
GMO is a real political football but the big problem, like in CAGW is the politics. Monsanto’s lawyer Mike Taylor was in the FDA and ruled GMOs are the same as natural and need no testing.
You can try The WTO and the Politics of GMO By F. William Engdahl
As a chemist, I have zero problem with the idea of GMOs but I do have a problem with the dirty politics that seems to be a major part of GMOs and the information from both sides.
You can try ISIS Horizontal Gene Transfer from GMOs Does Happen
All I can suggest is read the data that is out there and make up your own mind.
There is also http://www.warmwell.com
I found the following at that site:
2001 UK foot and Mouth Disease (I strongly recommend reading it because it shows the type of screw-ups you get with an international agency is in charge.)
A follow up for the USA is What is Depopulation? something to keep in mind since the USA moved Foot and Mouth disease research off Plum Island into Kansas, the middle of cow country. The Pirbright labs in the UK are the source of the 2001 fiasco. This was KNOWN prior to the move by the US government. There already is an international group for patenting animal genetics….
As I said dirty politics.
More Warmwell:
For me, ‘natural’ needs testing as well. All successful biological organisms alter the local environment to enhance their own survival.
Plants produce pesticides. Fungi produce anti-bacterials and insecticides. Plants produce carcinogens. Heck, our own bodies produce carcinogens, from the same mechanisms that detoxify another chemical in the same family.
‘natural’ aka heirloom has already had 1,000 years or so of human testing. Although then you get into personal chemistry too. I knew a lady that could eat yellow or orange tomatoes but not the normal red. – go figure.
Yes, they have had 1000 or more years of human testing, to an extent and not systematically. Just like the Monsanto guy’s stuff.
No not like Monsanto’s stuff.
Normal crops do not normally have genes from inedibles inserted into their genome. When it does happen it is rather slow. (There is horizontal gene transfer and mutations.)
For example I am in the process of ‘selecting for’ parasite resistant goats. This can be done because of the wide genetic variation within and among breeds and the occasional mutant. I have a farm bred buck who at three years has never been de-wormed and is ~150#, husky, hardy, a good keeper and sweet tempered. Most of the babies he has put on the ground are as nice as he is. We cull those who are not. Sadly it is time for him to take up residence in the freezer and for me to find an outside buck. However I am planning to keep the two best of his bucklings for use in a couple of years.
Here is the story of Bt and Insect-resistant Crops Through Genetic Engineering
Bt stands for Bacillus thuringiensis a bacterium that occurs in the soil. It is not a gene normally found in your food plants and the specific gene inserted is done so to produce Bt proteins lethal to insects. So yes I want the plant tested for toxicity.
The gene(s) I am trying to ‘fix’ in my goat herd DOES occur naturally in goats but not in a consistent manner. Because the pure bred registered Nubian goats in my area were selected for milk production and NOT parasite resistance they are very ‘delicate’ and die like flies without time intensive care. The alpine breeds are more hardy and the cashmere hardier still.
One of the other problems not touch upon very much is the problem of very small genetic variation in not only GMOs but other commercial breeding stock. It is the major problem when breeders are trying to ‘Fix’ a trait within a breed. It is why I am going to get an outside buck who is completely unrelated to my herd.
Sure sounds like a darn good reason to keep the ‘Hobby farmers’ who raise rare breeds and heirlooms around.
Yea, Poison Ivy is “natural”. But I would not recommend using it in any manner.
Gail, I’m going to have to agree to disagree with you on that one. Personally I’d rather do it directly and cleanly than bluntly brute force. Old fashioned or new-fangled, they both should be extensively tested; and both are, in the end, breeding methods.
@phil, so is botulinum toxin, but they made medicine out of it :P.
Yes, we have all seen the effects of “botox”, but the purpose is the same – to kill nerves!
can I stick with my spinach please? 😉
cdquarles….
Let’s make sure we are arguing about the same thing.
1. Are you saying we should pull all our normal veggies, fruit and meat off the market for the 2 to 3 years needed to do the typical FDA testing?
2. Or are you saying when I come up with a new bright red seedless eggplant shaped like a zucchini via normal breeding methods, it should go through testing?
In the second case I too would like to see some testing to make sure the mutation(s) is not causing hidden toxicity.
The second, of course.
I support seed banking. We need to maintain the baseline in-built variance.
Seed banking gets into a whole ‘nother thorny ball of wax.
Seed banking is not a bad idea IF the ownership of the seed genetics does not get turned over to corporations without compensation to the farm families who have done the breeding over hundreds of years.
This is from my old notes but gets straight to the point:
June 2006 Global Diversity Treaty:
Translation: Bio-techs Corporations steal seed from third world farmers, patents it and pay money to Bioversity International
Feb 2007 GRAIN press release USA:
Seed companies want to ban farm-saved seeds
A new report from GRAIN reveals the new lobbying offensive from the global seed industry to make it a crime for farmers to save seeds for the next year’s planting. See History at http://www.gmfreeireland.org/news/2007/feb.php
April 2007 Monsanto, Cargill and Maseca-ADM sign agreements to establish regional seed banks in the center and south of Mexico. http://www.counterpunch.org/ross11212007.html
Yes, the original breeders/maintainers should get rights just like first authors.
And he’s coloured in the Arctic and Antarctic too.
People should not extrapolate temperature anomalies. The correct answer is to admit insufficient data exists to tell what is going on in Africa.
All but one of the African stations are located in fast growing urban areas, so virtually all of Africa is contaminated by UHI effects.
“To Gavin”. Meaning: to invent data required to support a preferred theory or position. Adj form.
“He Gavin’d the data”.
In IRS use, meaning to destroy evidence. “hey, Gavin that hard drive”
That’ll be a tough sell. Too many candidates.
Off topic…
http://www.triadconservative.com/2014/09/green-energy-requirements-causing-damaged-homes-fires.html
Green, Energy-Saving Requirement Causing Damaged Homes, Cars, Fires?
Here is an interesting story.
The state of North Carolina adopted building code requirements for the use of low-E windows as a green, energy-saving measure.
Unbeknownst to anyone in state government, the Consumer Safety Products Commission recalled the windows.
It was apparently being discovered that the windows were reflecting heat– as they are designed to do– and were damaging the vinyl siding on nearby houses. In addition, there were even reports of damage to vehicles, and fires being caused in connection with the intense heat reflected.
Now, the North Carolina Rules Review Commission is considering a proposed temporary rule from the state Building Code Council to reduce the code requirements for low-E windows.
How about that.
The commission meets tomorrow, and staff is recommending denial of the request from the Building Code Council on procedural grounds.
– See more at: http://www.triadconservative.com/2014/09/green-energy-requirements-causing-damaged-homes-fires.html#sthash.GYsjgos2.dpuf
Note: “staff is recommending denial of the request from the Building Code Council on procedural grounds”
So to hell with burning down the neighborhood. We must use “green” windows…..
Yes, Officer. I smoked a joint and put out the matches in the leaf pile. Then the windows set it on fire.
Gavin Schmidt turned out to be the perfect replacement for his predecessor, James Hansen. His primary interest is not scientific discovery and ferreting out the truth. Instead, he is determined, in the pursuit of job security and funding, to make sure NASA GISS gives its political masters in the White House “data” and conclusions that confirm the concocted, fraudulent AGW scare. Lies and distortions are Schmidt’s stock in trade. He should be fired.
data ,who mentioned data . schidt dont need no stinking data.
More proof that the world needs to refer to RSS for it’s temperature record and not a patched together, manipulated set of dubious land and sea records.
Gavin must have gotten a huge bonus for this whopper of a lie
Gavin is applying his own twist on the “everywhere elsewhere” scam. Even though it is not warmer where I am, or where you are, Gavin claims that it is warming everywhere elsewhere. And how can I check if African temperatures are actually rising? Or if polar temperatures are up (no one living there, and Antarctic sea ice is setting records, so unlikely, but how to prove?)
And, of course, this is all timed to impact on the gathering at the UN next week.