Arctic sea ice extent is now higher than 2006, the year with the highest summer minimum of the past decade.
There is still snow in southern Greenland on June 24. Vikings used to farm there. That would be impossible now.
The Northwest Passage is completely blocked by thick, multi-year ice.
Climate experts will continue to lie about this, because their funding depends on it.
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In recent decades 2013 was the only year during which there was not net mass-loss or melting of the Greenland. Let’s see if this will be a second “neutral” year without the customary heavy melting…
My bet is that it will continue with the big decrease in sun spot activity. Some one should tell the pope before he runs out and buys some kissie water wings.
I meant kiddie
cfgj
Thank You for your response
From where did you get the information?
—and how did that source go about finding that
information?
Those are results from the GRACE-satellite (and we know from studies that GRACE, satellite altimetry + the so-called input-output method all give comparable results in measuring ice-mass change).
Here’s one project where the three largely independent methods have been compared: http://imbie.org/
I have already shown you at least three times that GRACE data is unreliable, and yet you keep parroting this nonsense. GRACE measures gravity anomalies, not ice.
What’s a TRF error? That stands for Terrestrial Reference Frame, which is basically saying that errors in determining the benchmark are messing up the survey. In land based geodesy terms, say if somebody messed with the USGS benchmark elevation data from Mt. Diablo California on a regular basis, and the elevation of that benchmark kept changing in the data set, then all measurements referencing that benchmark would be off as well.
In the case of radio altimetry from space, such measurements are extremely dependent on errors related to how radio signals are propagated through the ionosphere. Things like Faraday rotation, refraction, and other propagation issues can skew the signal during transit, and if not properly corrected for, especially over the long-term, it can introduce a spurious signal in all sorts of data derived from it. In fact, the mission summary shows that it will affect satellite derived data for sea level, ice loss, and ice volume in GRACE gravity measurements.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/10/30/finally-jpl-intends-to-get-a-grasp-on-accurate-sea-level-and-ice-measurements/
And the Earth’s gravitational field is not uniform, or constant. GRACE measure gravity, and not ice or water.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/07/20/graces-warts-new-peer-reviewed-paper-suggests-errors-and-adjustments-may-be-large/
You are all mouth.
Antarctica has 29,000,000 gigatons of ice. GRACE is claiming it loses 10’s of gigatons of ice a year. Do you really think a satellite can measure continental ice with an accuracy of one part is several million? Neither do I.
That’s good, cf. Can I call you cf? The Little Ice Age was cold, wasn’t it? Pffew, I’m sure glad it’s over.
LIA was over in the early part of last century…
Which man made CO2 ended the LIA?
Yeah, and can we really be sure that banning CO2 will bring back the LIA? What if it doesn’t? Are you going to be responsible for freezing the Thames again, like in the good old days?
Why be so formal. Just call him c
Ugh, how about 2014 and 2015 dubbed “Hottest Year Ever”… despite the cold and despite both poles gaining ice.. 2015 will be declared “Hottest Ever” no matter what…
Grace Satellite info is helpful… but really flawed when it comes to measuring ICE… I suggest doing more research before posting anything related to GRACE/ICE..
There has been much evidence that there has been melting glaciers since the
depth of the so-called little ice age about 250-300 years ago, and melting glaciers
would be a cause of rising sea level.
However, there are hundreds of records both written and anecdotal of the opposite
change happening between the middle of Medieval warm period and into the depth
of the little ice age.
I doubt anyone who contributes here would doubt that climate change happens.
In fact, evidence shows that many, many forcings are continually in play causing the
earth system to always be out of equilibrium. I would stipulate that the climatic changes
we see is most often the earth system in the process of, but never reaching equilibrium.
The simple fact that the Vikings were forced to leave their Greenland farm area
is itself a matter of record. The Inuit had a hand in that, but the Inuit themselves
were indeed forced to make changes due to a cooling climate in Greenland.
Indeed, as some of the recently past warming occurred, the remains of the Viking
establishments were continually being uncovered.
Sea ice on Hudson Bay is average for this time of year and there are many females with cubs around Svalbard, a huge turn around from last year
http://polarbearscience.com/2015/06/24/many-polar-bears-cubs-seen-in-svalbard-this-year-says-norwegian-biologist/
It is interesting how quickly the mother bears adapt to the changing situations created by the AMO. If things don’t look good on the coast of Svalbard, the mother bears just head over to Franz Josef Land. Certain scientists are far less adaptable, and stay back at Svalbard, and moan and groan about “reduced populations”. Then, when conditions again change and the mother bears come back, these same scientists sure do become quiet.
Thanks for creating and running such an fascinating site. I always enjoy visiting.
June 24 and Pikes Peak still has major patches of snow.
… that’s just localized weather .. LOL …
Can’t you tell the difference between WEATHER and Climate !! … 🙂
We have tons of snow along the front range peaks
I’m joking… playing Progressive Activist today…
We are now entering the heart of the thaw up at the Pole. Even the chart from back in 1958 shows they had sixty days of slush up there:
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/meanTarchive/meanT_1958.png
Because we always get sixty days of slush, what should cause people to raise an eyebrow is not above-freezing temperatures, but below freezing temperatures, such as they are now getting in the Beaufort Sea.
https://sunriseswansong.wordpress.com/2015/06/23/arctic-sea-ice-quirks-of-the-quietude/
You mean the eybrows that were raised when the Arctic had below normal temps during slush season in 2014
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/meanTarchive/meanT_2014.png
and in 2013
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/meanTarchive/meanT_2013.png
You know, the reason the Arctic has regained multi-year ice because it didn’t melt the last two summers?
Oh that is right US grant seeking ClimAstrologists ignore that evidence and keep lying through their teeth about the Arctic melting.
The climastrologists have become such a joke I don’t pay them much mind any more. In the old days they at least could come up with some interesting arguments, but now that they have pretty much lost all the debates they have devolved into a parody of themselves.
I try to pay more attention to reality than they do. After all, the arctic is interesting in its own right, and doesn’t need those jokers. I would even begrudge a few tax dollars for honest arctic research, done by the fellows who are true scientists and who are interested in truth.
I was a bit taken aback by how cold it was in the arctic the past two summers. Not that the melting on the surface means as much as melting from below, or as much as the way the ice is shifted about by winds, but the lack of summer slush did seem something we should pay attention to, (if only because, as farmers, we need to be on our toes for signs of late and early frosts.)
hysteresis the effect lacks behind the cause
The unfortunate thing is that derived causes are having very lagging effects.
Witness the Pope. Silly man.
He refused to entertain any of the so called climate contrarians
The man had my respect until recently. He is calling for prayers
for climate (CO2) controls. I think that maybe he just wants
one world order like the UN. Sad!
I think the fastest way a person can lose my respect is for them to tell me they believe in the global warming bunkum.
When it is a young person who is filled with ambition, and thinks he can figure out chaos with a computer model, I can be tolerant, and will sigh, “He will learn, as I learned.”
However when it is a Pope or a President, my lack of respect knows no bounds, for they should know better. There are enough wise people around to get the necessary advice needed to see what a fraud and scam is involved in the so-called “science” of Global Warming. Furthermore, I tend to think the Pope and President do have good advisers, and do know truth is lacking. Therefore they are seemingly willing to lie. Either that or they are astonishingly naive.
If they are willing to lie, they have lost any and all respect I might have had for them.
Caleb
Do you really believe it matters if the president believes or not. All that drives him is his agenda and narcissism. He will lie to support/feed either no matter what the truth is.
Biological markers show that for most of the first half of the Holocene, sea ice was a seasonal thing at best. Around 3500 years ago, the Holocene started to cool somewhat quicker, with a couple of short warmer bumps on the way down (RWP, MWP) until it reached the LIA. We are currently at the top of a third, very small bump.
The Arctic, and the rest of the world is still very much in a COOL period, only just above the coldest period in the current interglacial.
More warming would be highly beneficial, but unfortunately we have reached and probably just passed, the peak of the tiny molehill of the “modern slightly warm period”.
You are preaching to the choir. I myself think the MWP was more ice-free than many give it credit for being. I simply can see no other way for the permafrost in Greenland to melt enough for the Vikings to raise crops for a while. If the Arctic Sea to their north was warmer along the coasts, and took longer to freeze up in the winters, then they could have had a more maritime climate right into December. That would have made all the difference in how deeply the soil was frozen and how quickly they could have started planting in the spring.
I fear you may be right, but hope you are wrong, about the “MSWP” being over.
In the end I think the sun is in control, and if the sun decided to stop being “Quiet” everything could change. I hope the sun is kind to us, but not until the Global Warming nonsense is made to look very foolish.
the big problem for me caleb is that those that have control are all on the same bandwagon. if they at least maintained open minds ,as leaders of nations should, then there is a chance timely mitigation could be put in place should we see an increase in colder winters and shorter summers.
here in the uk we are one cold winter away from disaster ,we no longer have the energy generating capacity to cope with more than a coupe of days below freezing for the whole country. our energy supply back up now consists of a few thousand diesel generators ,which will be unable to supply a fraction of the power needed in a cold winter.
They have been busy shutting down the coal plants here in the Northeast of the USA as well. It seems sheer madness. I have a wood stove, but others won’t have any heat.
I was worried the problems might manifest last winter, but they managed, largely by importing electricity from Canada.
I agree that, in spite of really disliking cold, preferring warm, it would be a pleasure to see the ignorant, the liars, fraudsters et al be finally forced to shut up and back off! I may not live long enough, world economies and human comfort may be totally destroyed by then, but perhaps this blog and you intelligent posting people with common sense and wisdom will still be around to help pick up the pieces. Steve/Tony’s posts sometimes seem to be my only link with reality. Thank you all.
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With NOAA and NASA on the side of fantasy what difference does the truth matter now!
Thank you, Tony aka Steven, for holding their “feet to the fire” of REALITY: Every atom, life and planet in the solar system came from, and is sustained by, the pulsar that is located exactly 1 AU (astronomical unit) from planet Earth.
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Check my latest paper on Arctic Temperatures. Dr Darko Butina (UK)
Cue Jim with his missing ice cube report…