Overheated Air To Make It Very Cold

By: Seth Borenstein The Associated Press, Published on Tue Sep 02 2014

WASHINGTON—As the world gets warmer, parts of North America, Europe and Asia could see more frequent and stronger visits of cold air, a new study says. Researchers say that’s because of shrinking ice in the seas off Russia.

New study finds global warming, melting sea ice, connected to polar vortex | Toronto Star

Last year they blamed the cold on missing Barents Sea ice. This year, Barents Sea ice is above normal – so they moved their BS to a different region. Climate experts make Bernie Madoff seem like a saint.

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37 Responses to Overheated Air To Make It Very Cold

  1. hifast says:

    My clock-radio alarm came on playing this story. Needless to say, the jolt of angry adrenaline prevented my customary snooze cycle.

  2. Andy DC says:

    Like we never had cold waves before! What caused all the cold waves during the 18th,19th and 20th centuries, long before evil humanity and capitalist greed screwed up the climate?

  3. pinroot says:

    So the “logic” is that less sea ice allows cold Arctic air to move farther south? No matter where the ice is missing?

  4. cbltoo says:

    Trenberth refuted this.. because it disagreed with HIS lamebrained idea.

  5. Password protected says:

    Reminds me of the scene in the Blues Brothers movie where Belushi was lying in the tunnel at the mercy of his gun toting ex-fiancee. He just keep pulling out lame excuse after lame excuse, and got away with it.

  6. there is no substitute for victory says:

    pinroot, it works just like the “Missing Global Warming Heat” that on little cats’ feet sneaks down to the bottom of the chilly ocean depths and hides out there patiently waiting to spring out of the ocean depths and boil the entire US Navy and half the mermaids on Earth to death.
    Anyway none of it makes good nonsense. I’ll even bet that Al Gore told his masseuse that she was his first, and if she voted for Al Gore in 2000 she LOL-LOL-LOL believed him.

  7. there is no substitute for victory says:

    Say Tony, isn’t the Russian side of the Arctic where all the sea ice went this year while it was on vacation?

  8. James Strom says:

    Hey, there was a time when cold air was an indicator of a coming cold climate. The 1970’s, to be precise. I was just looking over one of those lengthy discussions at Judith Curry’s blog, and saw that several participants claimed that the “global cooling scare” is a myth. The claim seems to be that the scare existed only in newspapers and magazines, but not in scientific papers. After seeing that I came here to take a look at Steve’s global cooling pages. What I found is that most of the citations are indeed from magazines and newspapers, probably from the NYT most of all. But, reading the articles, I find that most of them cite highly regarded climatologists from the era. (Readers who have been around for a while may remember that the NYT had outstanding science coverage for quite a long time.) In any case, if someone has a bibliography of scientific papers on global cooling from that period, it might be worth posting up here. Apologies if it’s here and I missed it.

    Here’s the Curry link; you have to search the comments for cooling:

    http://judithcurry.com/2014/09/01/how-long-is-the-pause/

    • tom0mason says:

      You may wish to show some of this to the science deniers – http://fabiusmaximus.com/2009/10/21/letter/

    • Gail Combs says:

      Here is a first hand account of the “Coming Ice Age Saga” by a reporter/physicist who was there as it happened
      http://calderup.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/next-ice-age/#more-782

      Nigel Calder (1931-2014) graduated from Cambridge University, and did two years’ work as a research physicist for the Philips Group, (Yeah the same Phillips family that bankrolled Karl Marx) He was a science writer on the original staff of New Scientist in 1956 and became editor of that magazine in 1962. He wrote several books popularizing science.

      Nigel died just two months ago. He will be missed.

      • James Strom says:

        Thanks, Gail. When I think about cooling/warming I tend to recall Marcott’s signature graph. If one remembers that he disavows the 20th century warming that he put in that graph, and mentally removes the blade of his hockey stick, what is left depicts a multi-millennial cooling trend. I’m not confident about any long term climate predictions, but if I had to make one I would suspect that cooling is more likely than warming.

  9. tom0mason says:

    “Researchers say that’s because of shrinking ice in the seas off Russia.”
    And of course it has nothing to do with all the volcanic activity around Canada and Russia giving the region black ice.
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfrx99_six-russian-volcanoes-erupt_news
    http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/russia.html

  10. ACR says:

    Last year they blamed the cold on missing Barents Sea ice. This year, Barents Sea ice is above normal – so they moved their BS to a different region.

    Couldn’t the “Barents Sea” and the “seas off Russia” be the same place? Not sayin’ that the explanation makes logical sense, just that geography isn’t the problem.

  11. Robertv says:

    How high exactly is Barrows above sea level ?

    http://seaice.alaska.edu/gi/observatories/barrow_webcam

  12. Norm says:

    The humor and sarcasm make me smile but like many hoaxes they live long. Though this and equivalent blogs have served as a focus point for refuting the prevailing illogic the fact that the dominant media continues to spin failed arguments without any editorial control or reason is the problem. How does one inform the majority who are fed via NPR, National Geographic and most large scale media?

  13. DedaEda says:

    1. The fossil fuels are of organic origin
    2. The biosphere from which they originated was the most plentiful ever (i.e. Optimal atmosphere and temperature must have existed at that time)
    3. The carbon deposited in the fuels originated as CO2 in the ancient atmosphere
    4. The atmosphere is seriously depleted of CO2 and the carbon is locked out from doing any good for eons now.
    5. The biosphere is suffering from lack of CO2
    6. So for the good of the planet and humanity we need to liberate the carbon, in form of CO2, from the fossil fuels!
    Anything wrong with the logic?

  14. aztecbill says:

    So what they are saying is there is a huge negative feedback that they didn’t know about before making their strong positive feedback that climate models rely on obsolete. I am sure they are out there scrambling to change their models to a negative feedback.

    • Gail Combs says:

      I have this Swamp land I want to sell. It is a real steal at $100,000 an acre…

      • tom0mason says:

        Your swamp is killing the planet, or so the warmist would have us believe.

        Nature Geoscience 4, 839–842 (2011) doi:10.1038/ngeo1294
        Received 24 May 2011 Accepted 14 September 2011 Published online 16 October 2011

        These rivers breathe a lot of carbon.” —David Butman , a doctoral student at the Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies, who coauthored a recent article published in Nature Geoscience showing that rivers and streams in the United States are “supersaturated” with carbon dioxide (CO2) compared to the atmosphere, releasing an amount of CO2 equivalent to a car burning 40 million gallons of gasoline (enough to fuel 3.4 million car trips to the moon).
        Butman and coauthor Pete Raymond, a Yale professor, measured temperature, alkalinity, and pH from samples of more than 4,000 U.S. rivers and streams, and also studied the morphology and surface area of the waterways. They fed this data into a model to determine the flux of CO2 from the water and found that the amount of CO2 given off by rivers and streams “is significant enough for terrestrial modelers to note of it,” according to Butman.
        The study revealed that the CO2, after being released by decomposing plants, is making its way from the ground into the rivers and streams.
        The researchers also determined that an increase in precipitation caused by climate change will create a cycle that to increasing amounts of CO2 in the waterways and subsequently in the atmosphere. (Source : Yale University)

        This is a comment in a document – ‘Recent Changes of Arctic Multiyear Sea Ice Coverage and the Likely Causes’ by Polyakov et al and is on on page 149.
        The paper that Polyakov refers to is –
        David Butman & Peter A. Raymond
        NATURE GEOSCIENCE | LETTER
        http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v4/n12/full/ngeo1294.html

        • tom0mason says:

          Oops I mad a hash of that one
          Take two!
          Your swamp land is killing the planet, or so the warmist would have us believe.

          Nature Geoscience 4, 839–842 (2011) doi:10.1038/ngeo1294
          Received 24 May 2011 Accepted 14 September 2011 Published online 16 October 2011

          These rivers breathe a lot of carbon.” —David Butman , a doctoral student at the Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies, who coauthored a recent article published in Nature Geoscience showing that rivers and streams in the United States are “supersaturated” with carbon dioxide (CO2) compared to the atmosphere, releasing an amount of CO2 equivalent to a car burning 40 million gallons of gasoline (enough to fuel 3.4 million car trips to the moon).
          Butman and coauthor Pete Raymond, a Yale professor, measured temperature, alkalinity, and pH from samples of more than 4,000 U.S. rivers and streams, and also studied the morphology and surface area of the waterways. They fed this data into a model to determine the flux of CO2 from the water and found that the amount of CO2 given off by rivers and streams “is significant enough for terrestrial modelers to note of it,” according to Butman.
          The study revealed that the CO2, after being released by decomposing plants, is making its way from the ground into the rivers and streams.
          The researchers also determined that an increase in precipitation caused by climate change will create a cycle that to increasing amounts of CO2 in the waterways and subsequently in the atmosphere. (Source : Yale University)

          This is a comment in a document – ‘Recent Changes of Arctic Multiyear Sea Ice Coverage and the Likely Causes’ by Polyakov et al and is on on page 149.
          The paper that Polyakov refers to is –
          David Butman & Peter A. Raymond
          NATURE GEOSCIENCE | LETTER

        • tom0mason says:

          And David Butman & Peter A. Raymond
          NATURE GEOSCIENCE | LETTER
          http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v4/n12/full/ngeo1294.html

          Where’s the coffee!

        • Gail Combs says:

          OH GOODY, now it is time to shove that paper down the EPAs throat and start wiping out beaver and filling in swamps.

          Beaver carry ‘beaver fever’ or Giardia lamblia. The city closest to me takes the city water from the river just down stream from where the creek passing through my land empties. Someone paid a guy, 15 years ago to clear out the beaver. He killed over 100. Now they are all back.

          Giardiasis (gee-ar-die-a-sis with a soft “G”) is an infection of the small intestine that is caused by the parasite, Giardia intestinalis, also known as Giardia lamblia. It is the most common cause of parasitic gastrointestinal disease; it is estimated that 20,000 cases of giardiasis occur each year in the U.S., and there is a 20% to 30% prevalence in the world’s population….

          The inactive cyst, on the other hand, can exist for prolonged periods outside the body…
          . As a result, giardiasis is the most common cause of water-borne, parasitic illness in the U.S..
          http://www.medicinenet.com/giardia_lamblia/article.htm

          Interesting the article NEGLECTS to mention that normal water disinfecting techniques, like chlorination DO NOT KILL the inactive cyst. I asked a guy I know in the city’s dept of health and yes there have been many cases in the city.

          The problem is so well covered up that a friend had to send fecal samples from her son to the vet to get them tested for giardia because the doctor repeatedly refused to even look. When she presented him with the evidence they tried to have her arrested. (The poor little kid was sick to the point of dying because he could not eat – symptoms are diarrhea, vomiting, cramps.)

          Effect of Chlorine on Giardia lamblia Cyst Viability

        • tom0mason says:

          If you can stand an IRS 😦 visit, go for it.

        • rah says:

          A heck of a lot more than Beavers carry Giarida, including possibly a family pet. Lots of stuff that used to be exceptional in the US or restricted more to the border regions migrating north in the country. American Trypanosomyisis from the feces of the “kissing bug”. That’s the American version of the African “sleeping sickness”. Infections with the nematode Ascaris lumbricoides (giant intestinal round worm) while still rare are on the rise. Leptospirosis is endemic now across the US pretty much when it once was found mostly in the deep south.

  15. Gail Combs says:

    tom0mason says:
    If you can stand an IRS 😦 visit, go for it.
    >>>>>>>>
    Survival 101:
    You never ever go to anything to do with the government and park anywhere nearby or give them your real name.

    The USDA was going into the parking lots of livestock auctions and adding everyone’s land to their Premise ID ‘voluntary sign up’ (National Animal Identification System)

  16. Gail Combs says:

    rah says….
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    A lot of the rise in disease has to do with the WTO no quarantine rules allowing livestock imports and food imports into the USA without testing. The USA used to be tuberculosis free now we have TB found in imported Mexican cattle at slaughter.
    From my research in 2008:

    Cattle crossing facilities on the U.S. side of the border are operated primarily by private firms… at Santa Teresa, NM, Chihuahuan cattle producers [Mexican] operate both sides of the cattle port-of-entry
    (wwwDOT)ers.usda.gov/publications/Agoutlook/june2001/AO282d.pdf

    This also means cattle can be brought in from Latin America if Mexico allows it.

    The USA exports prime quality beef and imports crap (McDonalds et al)
    Total American Beef
    Year ……live Cattle exports…. (Carcass wt. 1,000 pounds)
    2004 ………………….460,314 ……………….15,721
    2008………………….1,888,226……………….107,492
    ……………….
    Beef and veal imports (Carcass wt. 1,000 pounds)
    Country 2004 2008 diseases
    Uruguay 402,898 65,549 2001 FMD outbreak

    Brazil 219,393 212,907 2005 FMD outbreak, Vesicular stomatitis, Bluetongue (now found in USA) Lymphatic filariasis, Leishmaniasis, Onchocerciasis (River Blindness), Trypanosoma cruzi,

    Argentina 116,606 55,966 2008 FMD outbreak

    Nicaragua 65,397 99,384 Trypanosomiasis (Chagas disease),leptospirosis

    Costa Rica 23,632 19,239 rabies, Naegleria fowler, Encephalitis, vesicular stomatitis viruses, Leptospirosis, Trypanosomiasis (Chagas disease)

    Mexico 19,495 43,783 tuberculosis, brucellosis “cattle tick fever,” Trypanosoma cruz, Vesicular stomatitis

    Canada 1,062,420 841,242 tuberculosis, BSE
    Panama (now listed as other) Trypanosomiasis (Chagas disease), Vesicular stomatitis

    This chart shows how USDA cut back testing after WTO was created in 1995.
    Note the significant drop in testing!

    Summary of Tuberculosis Surveillance in California Cattle

    # Tested………1995…..1996…..1997…….1998…….1999
    Officials…….10,576…5,100 ….2,861 …..3,530…..1,425
    Private Vets..15,921…17,100…19,930…18,189…22,863
    @ Slaughter……39………58 ………64……….39………..58

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