No Net Warming In Southwest Greenland Since The 19th Century


After a short spike around the year 2000, temperatures in southwest Greenland have been plummeting since 2003, are the coldest this year since 1993, and are averaging no warmer now than they were in the 19th century.

Climate experts insist that Greenland is melting down, because their money, reputations and scam now depends entirely on continuing to lie about the climate.

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39 Responses to No Net Warming In Southwest Greenland Since The 19th Century

  1. pinroot says:

    Cue Martin in 3…2…

  2. oppti says:

    AMO Check?

  3. Martin Smith says:

    Steven, you really have to post links to where you got the data, how you made the graph, etc, so we can fact check your work. Without traceability your graphs are not credible.

    [SG : Do you actually believe the data is incorrect Martin?]

  4. oppti says:

    CO2 Check?

  5. Martin Smith says:

    For example, you can’t claim there has been no net warming in southwest Greenland using that graph. It doesn’t show the trend line, which is the only reasonable way to interpret your use of the term “net warming.” Apparently you mean that the current anomaly is below the 0 point, but that is a silly way to interpret “net warming.”

    [SG : Not very intelligent to draw a linear trend through an obviously cyclical function. That sort of behavior is the root of climate scams. Current temperatures are the same as the 19th century and plummeting]

  6. Lost in all this back and forth and temp graphing ad nauseum is the physics; the fact is CO2 is doing all it can to warm the earth. since it’s ONLY effect is to absorb a couple of radiation band-widths and its concentration is already more than enough to do that, adding more CO2 will have no effect on the environment, except to accelerate vegetation growth. Let’s talk about the REAL greenhouse gas – water vapor which is + 90% of the effect and is of course left out of all the predictive models. What are we going to do about that menace?

    • rah says:

      Never mind that no where in the record is there an instance where CO2 has pushed warming to the positive feed back “tipping point” the alarmist now claim it will despite the fact that CO2 levels well above the current one have existed several times in the past.

    • Jeffrey, here is a related physics question:

      In the hypothetical case below, what would be the effect of increasing opacity on the aridity of Martin Smith’s brain? How much worse would the drought get?

  7. eliza says:

    MS is likely paid a very high sum by the Team to go around trying to bring sites such as this down obfuscate ect. Im sure there are quite a few who are currently being recruited to do this. It won’t work and the next attempts will likely be illegal such as DOS attacks ect

    • Gail Combs says:

      All our resident Troll has done is cause a major increase in site traffic.

    • catweazle666 says:

      Both George Monbiot of the Guardian and Aaron Huertas, press officer of the Union of Concerned Dogs Scientists were advertising on their blogs at one point for trolls to whom they could send emails in order that they could be directed to and disrupt blogs that didn’t support “The Cause”.

      Then there was Gavin Schmidt’s appeal on (un)skepticalscience recruiting for his rapid response “Crusher Crew” for exactly the same purpose.

      All of the above posted instructions as to how to disrupt blogs, which bore an uncanny resemblance to the tactics employed by Marty, ie don’t worry about accuracy, accuse the poster of lying and drive any sensible posts off the bottom of the page by spamming.

      I can see no reason why these practices should have been discontinued, especially by Huertas, who ran various sockpuppets and was a major internet pest.

      • Gail Combs says:

        Given the Paris-ite Circus scheduled in a couple of weeks expect to see a ramp up.

        To bad the idiots never figure out it is THEIR FREEDOM and THEIR WEALTH on the line as well as ours.

        Once the cause is ‘won’ then the purges begin and on that nasty note:

        Look at the countries that have disarmed their citizens: Turkey – 1911, Soviet Union – 1929, Germany – 1938, China – 1935, Guatemala – 1964, Uganda – 1970.
        Now look at Switzerland — issues a gun to every household, teaches them to shoot — lowest gun-related crime rate in the civilized world. So crime stats are NOT the real reason leaders want to disarmed their citizens.

        Then look at the other stats:

        DEMOCIDE: Death by Government, murdered 6 times more people than died in combat in all the foreign and internal wars of the century

        1,883,000 Murdered: Turkey’s Genocidal Purges
        61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
        20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
        38,000,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
        2,035,000 Murdered: The Khmer Rouge Hell State
        1,670,000 Murdered: The Vietnamese War State
        1,585,000 Murdered: Poland’s Ethnic Cleansing
        1,503,000 Murdered: The Pakistani Cutthroat State
        1,072,000 Murdered: Tito’s Slaughterhouse
        1,663,000 Murdered? Orwellian North Korea

        The 20th century total of citizens killed by their own government = 262,000,000 people “… tortured or beaten to death, hung, shot, and buried alive, burned or starved to death, stabbed or chopped into pieces, and murdered in all the other ways creative and imaginative human beings can devise, I have never been so happy to conclude a project. I have not found it easy to read time and time again about the horrors innocent people have been forced to suffer. What has kept me at this was the belief, as preliminary research seemed to suggest, that there was a positive solution to all this killing and a clear course of political action and policy to end it. And the results verify this. The problem is Power. The solution is democracy. The course of action is to foster freedom.” – Dr R.J. Rummel

        And people want to know why we want to keep our guns!

        This is the real face of the Econut UtopiaThe Khmer Rouge Years

        … the Khmer Rouge knew well, there were no American plans to attack the city. The deception was a ploy to get people into the countryside, away from the urban confines of the city. The Khmer Rouge believed that cities were living and breathing tools of capitalism in their own right – KR cadres referred to Phnom Penh as “the great prostitute of the Mekong.” (Chandler, The Tragedy of Cambodian History, 247) In order to create the ideal communist society, all people would have to live and work in the countryside as peasants. Peasants, in fact, were the Khmer Rouge communist ideal….

        The Fall of the Khmer Rouge

        …As the dust settled, Vietnam established a new Cambodian government known as the People’s Republic of Kampuchea (PRK)….
        Hundreds of thousands of Cambodian families began the long march to their home villages in the hopes of finding surviving relatives. In many cases, though, Cambodians returned to find nothing left of their former lives – no homes, no possessions, and most tragic, no relatives. The Khmer Rouge came hauntingly close to succeeding in their radical attempt to erase all memories of the old Cambodia.

        Vietnamese occupying forces, who themselves were hardened by the brutalities of the Vietnam War, were shocked as they soon discovered the legacy of the Khmer Rouge. Throughout the countryside, Cambodia was pockmarked by sunken depressions of dirt, as if hell had sucked in small pockets of earth in the hopes of devouring the world above it. As we all soon discovered, the depressions were indeed the stuff of hell, for each marked the spot of another mass grave: the graves of the hundreds of thousands of Cambodians slaughtered by their own countrymen.

        That was just one country. What happens when it is the entire world?

        I am afraid we may find that out very soon.

        • willys36 says:

          All socialist regimes. Let’s count up the infanticide/elder genocide the US is embarking on in our totally transformed Marxist Hussein world. I’ll be we will be up therewith the best of them within this decade.

        • Gail Combs says:


          I just listed a few that Dr. R.J. Rummel has researched. It is well worth the few minutes to read his intro to his book: DEATH BY GOVERNMENT

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