Climate Fraudsters Of The Day – The Washington Post

2015-12-20-03-14-20

70s around Christmas? It’s looking likely — and it would crush records – The Washington Post

The DC area has had temperatures 70 or above on Christmas Day in 1893, 1932, 1933, 1955,  1964 and 1982. It was 80 degrees at Farmville, VA on Christmas Day 1955.

The article isn’t quite as awful as the headline, but fails to mention that 70 degree weather on Christmas was much more common around DC when CO2 was below 350 PPM.

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16 Responses to Climate Fraudsters Of The Day – The Washington Post

  1. There is a difference between weather and climate when it’s cold. When it’s warm, weather is the same as climate.

  2. markstoval says:

    The central problem is that they can lie much faster than we can debunk the lies. Most people will read the headline and not pay a lot of attention but in the back of their minds they are left with the impression of “global warming”.

    Now even if the newspaper ran a retraction of that story, it would be buried on a back page someplace and no one would see it. Besides, the initial impression has already left its seeds.

    This is a hard game to win —- countering a widespread delusion.

    • Gail Combs says:

      You are spot on Mark. The first one to get the headline wins. It doesn’t matter if it is a complete lie. That is the whole goal of propaganda and mudslinging.

      • markstoval says:

        Gail,

        Someone once mentioned that we need a lot of “one liner” retorts to the propaganda rather than a lot of dry science and logic. The person also mentioned we need graphs that show the lies of the other side.

        I can agree, but they are lying and creating fraudulent “records” by the day. They have 100s of billions of dollars and thousands of “certified experts” to create propaganda.

        A simple honest graph of the temperatures of the last 1,000 years or so should convince anyone that Mother Nature is in charge of temperatures on this planet. Here is one that is a bit longer:

        • Gail Combs says:

          Mark I always liked this one:

          or this one:

          The real question is how cold will it get?

          The paper: Can we predict the duration of an interglacial? Gives the calculated solar insolation values @ 65°N on June 22 for several glacial inceptions:
          Current value – insolation = 479W m−2 (from that paper)

          MIS 7e – insolation = 463 W m−2,
          MIS 11c – insolation = 466 W m−2,
          MIS 13a – insolation = 500 W m−2,
          MIS 15a – insolation = 480 W m−2,
          MIS 17 – insolation = 477 W m−2

          So the earth is in the correct ballpark for the start of a BIG ice age. The Holocene interglacial is now 11,717 years old. That’s two centuries or so beyond half the present precession cycle (or 23,000/2=11,500) the Little Ice Age was right on time. (Thank you Grand Solar Maximum.) Only one interglacial , MIS-11, since the Mid-Pleistocene Transition has lasted longer than about half a precession cycle.

          Lisiecki & Raymo’s landmark paper A Pliocene-Pleistocene stack of 57 globally distributed benthic D18O records as well as several others say only a high level of CO2 will keep glacial inception from occurring.

          And Politicians want to REDUCE the CO2 ****that might just keep us out of the Ice Box? Are they crazy or do they have a death wish!?

          **** It takes 5.44 W/sq.m to raise the tempearture 1 degree C according to the Stefan-Boltzmann law assuming the average surface temperature is 288K. The entire CO2 forcing is 32 to 44 W m–2 [cf., Reid, 1997]. and all but 5 to 6 W m–2 of that forcing occurs in the first 200 ppm CO2. A CO2 level where plants barely survive.

        • ilma630 says:

          Don’t you mean “certifiable experts”?🙂

    • rah says:

      There is a similar tactic used in the politics. Lies spread about an opponent or antagonist take far longer to clean up than they do the produce and disseminate. It’s like the litter bug throwing stuff out the car window as they drive down the road. Takes them little time and effort to spread their garbage far and wide but cleaning it up is tedious and time consuming.

      • Gail Combs says:

        Speaking of lies, here is a great example by a ‘Skeptic’ It is a comment at A state ideology: Mark Steyn was breathtakingly good in his Congressional Testimony today.

        I thought it was interesting Mark Steyn full-throatedly endorsed charts created by Steven Goddard, charts widely rebuked for being obvious nonsense created via a bogus methodology. I think that shows the problem with using a person like Steyn as a figurehead in a movement: he may be a good speaker, but he has no idea what he’s talking about.

        The reality is anyone who knows anything about the subject should have cringed the moment Ted Cruz pulled the charts from Steven Goddard out. They should have shaken their heads and cried as Cruz postured and posed about how those charts showed global warming was fabricated by man-made adjustments to the data. Most people didn’t though. Most people were okay with Cruz using obvious nonsense to promote his conclusions for the same reason they were okay with Mark Steyn ranting and raving about god knows what. That reason is simple: They liked what they heard.

        That’s all there is to it. It doesn’t matter that what Ted Cruz said about the temperature record was obvious BS, supported only by a raving pseudononymous blogger who is on the same level as 9/11 truthers. People liked what they heard, so they supported it. And when Mark Steyn went above and beyond the call of duty to support it, they supported him too, because they liked what they heard.

        That what they heard was completely and utterly wrong didn’t matter. That Cruz promoted graphs based on obivous BS doesn’t matter. To a certain segment of the population, Cruz and Steyn represented a viewpoint they liked, and it doesn’t matter if any facts contradict them because… well, who cares about facts?

        It’s disgusting and disgraceful. That Ted Cruz, a presidential hopeful, would resort to using bull**** charts created by some random guy on the internet shows only that the political process in the United States does little to ensure credible or sensible candidates.

        http://www.hi-izuru.org/wp_blog/2015/12/ted-cruz-endorses-steven-goddard/
        Dec 9, 2015 at 3:04 PM | Brandon Shollenberger

        Radical Rodent had an excellent rebuttal further down the comment list.

        ….Brandon Shollenberger: at least Steven Goddard allowed access to his data and methodology for others to find fault. That you can only resort to hearsay – “…charts widely rebuked…” – suggests that you are playing the man, here, rather than the ball. Give a proper scientific rebuttal of the charts, rather than you somewhat rabid ranting.
        Dec 9, 2015 at 4:47 PM | Radical Rodent

        Seems Anthony’s shoot from the hit slam at Steven Goddard is still solidly lodged in Shollenberger’s head.

  3. Andy DC says:

    I am also pretty sure that DCA was also over 70 degrees on 12/25/65. I remember playing golf that day when a thunderstorm came through during early afternoon and dropped heavy hail. The ground was partially covered by the hail, causing an unusual white Christmas on a 70 degree day.

    • Andy DC says:

      I checked the record for 12/25/65 and National Airport was only 67. The local forecast was for low 70’s, but the thunderstorm hit around 1 PM and ended the heating for that day.

      • Gail Combs says:

        Well the weather sure made up for it today. It is a freezing 25F in sunny central North Carolina at 9:10 AM. BRRRrrrr

  4. Barbara says:

    Sunny So. AZ had a couple of 16F. nights last week but we have climbed back up, 34F. yesterday at sunup and today a bit later it is already 40. Nearly every day we have something like a 30 degree Fahrenheit swing during the day. Cloud cover arrived yesterday, so we didn’t quite make the 70’s. This is why I know the climate “scientists” are fraudsters. They are stressing over 2 degrees C. / 3.5 or so F. ? I wish I could believe the world is warming up. I hate cold!

    • Gail Combs says:

      The climate never stays the same and given a choice between warm or cold I will take warm, thank you very much. It is why I talked Hubby into moving from New England to North Carolina even though I like to ski and winter hike.

      Warmer means Canada, Russia and China can grow more food further north and there is less drought so whats not to like?

      COLD:

      WARM: (Holocene Optimum ~ 3C warmer)

      This is the present N.A. for comparison

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